Horrendous traffic from the M3 towards HC, gave up after moving a few
hundred yards in 20 mins, turned around and went via Richmond which worked
out well. Just out of interest, what was the cause? Was there an accident or
roadworks? The traffic coming towards us (away from HC) was also extremely
intermittent so it looked as if there was a definite blockage rather than
just sheer volume, esp as coming from Richmond there was v little traffic
going the same way as us even when right at HC.

This was my first Saturday visit, always been on a Sunday before, the plants
were a lot more expensive :-(
I suppose I was spoiled by all the 1/2 price offers on my previous visits
:-)

Also, can anyone recommend a source of small folding chairs or shooting
sticks, or similar, for next time? Chairs were in v short supply at eating
times (for sitting on, not eating :-). Didnt see any on sale at HC though
probably there were?

Resisted the urge to buy a clematis and have it die within a few months this
time. Seems new clematis just wont take in my garden wherever planted.

--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
writes

Resisted the urge to buy a clematis and have it die within a few months this
time. Seems new clematis just wont take in my garden wherever planted.

What happens to them? I have the same problem, and in my case the cause
is slugs - they chew though stems lowish down, so the whole stem wilts,
and they take new growth as soon as it appears. So the overall effect is
apparently mysterious death of healthy plant.

I've found 1) it's just about possible to get them established if you
grow them in a pot for a few years until you have woody main stems 2)
they are remarkably resilient, and if you dig the roots up and plant in
a pot, the thing will come up again. I've just retrieved one that I last
saw in the garden 3 years ago.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"Tumbleweed" wrote in message
...
snipped
Also, can anyone recommend a source of small folding chairs or shooting
sticks, or similar, for next time? Chairs were in v short supply at eating
times (for sitting on, not eating :-). Didnt see any on sale at HC though
probably there were?
Tumbleweed

The Army and Navy store seem to have several :~))
http://www.armynavystores.co.uk/shop/shop.asp?cat=c3

I've got a folding stool = its got a handy carrying strap and is very
lightweight

Jenny

The message
from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:

/snip/

Also, can anyone recommend a source of small folding chairs or shooting
sticks, or similar, for next time? Chairs were in v short supply at eating
times (for sitting on, not eating :-). Didnt see any on sale at HC though
probably there were?

Sports/shooting/fishing shop.

Resisted the urge to buy a clematis and have it die within a few
months this
time. Seems new clematis just wont take in my garden wherever planted.

Sell yer a set of green fingers, guv?

Guaranteed satisfaction, and comes in a 'andy haerosol can innit.

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

The message
from "JennyC" contains these words:

I've got a folding stool = its got a handy carrying strap and is very
lightweight

I bought a plastic stool from Ellisdon's when I was an anklebiter. It
wasn't very convincing, but at least it didn't fold....

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

"Kay" wrote in message
...
In article , Tumbleweed thisaccountnever
writes

Resisted the urge to buy a clematis and have it die within a few months
this
time. Seems new clematis just wont take in my garden wherever planted.

What happens to them? I have the same problem, and in my case the cause
is slugs - they chew though stems lowish down, so the whole stem wilts,
and they take new growth as soon as it appears. So the overall effect is
apparently mysterious death of healthy plant.

I've found 1) it's just about possible to get them established if you
grow them in a pot for a few years until you have woody main stems 2)
they are remarkably resilient, and if you dig the roots up and plant in
a pot, the thing will come up again. I've just retrieved one that I last
saw in the garden 3 years ago.

That could be it, I had put itdown to clematis wilt on the grounds they
wilted but I suppose if the stem was mostly eaten through it would look the
same. I have a few established clematis (clematii?) but new ones are v
difficult to keep going more than a few months.

--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

The message
from Jaques d'Alltrades contains
these words:

The message
from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:

/snip/

Also, can anyone recommend a source of small folding chairs or shooting
sticks, or similar, for next time? Chairs were in v short supply at
eating
times (for sitting on, not eating :-). Didnt see any on sale at HC though
probably there were?

Sports/shooting/fishing shop.

An elderly friend of mine has one (fishing, I think) which is
somehow part of a backpack, which is how she carries it around.

For anyone who can easily get up and down to ground level, I recommend
a simple good-quality plastic carrier bag. Waterproof, folds up tiny,
can be tucked in the smallest pocket and weighs nothing. And at the end
of the day you can carry plants in it :~}

Janet.

Also, can anyone recommend a source of small folding chairs or shooting
sticks, or similar, for next time? Chairs were in v short supply at eating
times (for sitting on, not eating :-). Didnt see any on sale at HC though
probably there were?


Very poor consideration of the stall holders. I have just had a stand at the
International Festival of the Sea at Portsmouth. The third I have done. I
ALWAYS take four folding camping chairs with me and have them available to
the public. (3 urglers made their acquaintance and used them :-)) and I know
that other stand holders do the same. Is it something to do with the 'Caring
Naval fraternity' which is missing in the gardening fraternity?

(Reinforces the aggression and the net nannying in this newsgroup)

Mike

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message
from Jaques d'Alltrades contains
these words:

The message
from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:

/snip/

Also, can anyone recommend a source of small folding chairs or shooting
sticks, or similar, for next time? Chairs were in v short supply at
eating
times (for sitting on, not eating :-). Didnt see any on sale at HC
though
probably there were?

Sports/shooting/fishing shop.

An elderly friend of mine has one (fishing, I think) which is
somehow part of a backpack, which is how she carries it around.

For anyone who can easily get up and down to ground level, I recommend
a simple good-quality plastic carrier bag. Waterproof, folds up tiny,
can be tucked in the smallest pocket and weighs nothing. And at the end
of the day you can carry plants in it :~}

Janet.

but very 'ard on the arse!

--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

The message
from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:

That could be it, I had put itdown to clematis wilt on the grounds they
wilted but I suppose if the stem was mostly eaten through it would look the
same. I have a few established clematis (clematii?) but new ones are v
difficult to keep going more than a few months.

pedant

Clemates?

/pedant

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

The message
from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:


"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...

For anyone who can easily get up and down to ground level, I recommend
a simple good-quality plastic carrier bag. Waterproof, folds up tiny,
can be tucked in the smallest pocket and weighs nothing. And at the end
of the day you can carry plants in it :~}


but very 'ard on the arse!

That depends entirely on the quality of the arse :~} I firmly
recommend the classic deluxe version with interior springs and superb
upholstery.

Janet.

Janet.

The message
from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:
"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...

For anyone who can easily get up and down to ground level, I recommend
a simple good-quality plastic carrier bag. Waterproof, folds up tiny,
can be tucked in the smallest pocket and weighs nothing. And at the end
of the day you can carry plants in it :~}

Janet.

but very 'ard on the arse!

You can always stuff it with your spare pullie...

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:56:21 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

~The message
~from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:
~
~ That could be it, I had put itdown to clematis wilt on the grounds they
~ wilted but I suppose if the stem was mostly eaten through it would look the
~ same. I have a few established clematis (clematii?) but new ones are v
~ difficult to keep going more than a few months.
~
~pedant
~
~Clemates?
~
~/pedant

Surely if the ending in singular is -is then the plural is -um?

as in
singular:
arbor
arborem
arboris
arbori
arbore

plural:
arbores
arbores
arborum
arboribus
arboribus

:-)


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

The message
from (jane) contains these words:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:56:21 +0100, Jaques d'Alltrades
wrote:

~The message
~from "Tumbleweed" contains these words:
~
~ That could be it, I had put itdown to clematis wilt on the grounds they
~ wilted but I suppose if the stem was mostly eaten through it would
look the
~ same. I have a few established clematis (clematii?) but new ones are v
~ difficult to keep going more than a few months.
~
~pedant
~
~Clemates?
~
~/pedant

Surely if the ending in singular is -is then the plural is -um?

Nope. The *is ending is third declension (I don't know of any other
declension which has an *is nominative singular ending in it.

as in as in:
singular:
arbor navis
arborem navis
arboris navem (sometimes -im)
arbori navis
arbore navi
nave (sometimes -i)
plural:
arbores
arbores
arborum
arboribus
arboribus

as in:

Singular

nom. navis naves
voc. navis naves
acc. navem (sometimes -im) naves (sometimes -is)
gen. navis navium
dat. navi navibus
abl. nave (sometimes -i) navibus

Please note: a navibus is generally dark blue and sings rude songs as it
progresses.

--
Rusty
Emus to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co full-stop uk
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

In article , jane jane@moonros
e.demonmapson.co.uk writes

Surely if the ending in singular is -is then the plural is -um?

as in
singular:
arbor
arborem
arboris
arbori
arbore

plural:
arbores
arbores
arborum
arboribus
arboribus

:-)


Wrong example! You need something where the nominative ends in 'is' not
the genitive ;-)

eg civis pl cives .... which doesn't help your case ;-)
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"