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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
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We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Most of the bad weather i.e. strong gusting winds, come from the south west. Fortunately the garden is completely sheltered from that side - but almost totally open from the east, with a stone wall about four feet high, about three open paddocks and then a drop down over the cliff! The north and south sides of the garden have shelter some within about 50ft in each direction. Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? Thanks for any help in advance, Keith (remove nospam from email address to reply privately) |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
I would contact several manufacturers and get them to recommend a product
suitable for your garden,if they are not prepared to make any recommendations do not buy! regards Richard Keith Pritchard" wrote in message ... We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Most of the bad weather i.e. strong gusting winds, come from the south west. Fortunately the garden is completely sheltered from that side - but almost totally open from the east, with a stone wall about four feet high, about three open paddocks and then a drop down over the cliff! The north and south sides of the garden have shelter some within about 50ft in each direction. Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? Thanks for any help in advance, Keith (remove nospam from email address to reply privately) |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
In message , Keith Pritchard
writes We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Can't help with the GH question I'm afraid. (remove nospam from email address to reply privately) Not sure if it's what you intended, but there isn't much point in spam trapping your reply-to address, as it's the From address that spam bots harvest -- Chris French and Helen Johnson, Leeds urg Suppliers and References FAQ: http://www.familyfrench.co.uk/garden/urgfaq/index.html |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
Keith Pritchard wrote: We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. Mine in N.Yorks survived many storms that hit 60+ mph. The one that killed it was the winter storm of '97 which had gusts touching 100mph in exposed areas like mine. Even then I reckon it could have been tougened up to stand it's ground if I had cross braced the corners with heavier gauge aluminium. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? Worth asking them. Also consider glazing with twinwall polycarbonate which will withstand much more by way of flying debris before it breaks. The typical mode of failure of a greenhouse in a storm is that something strikes the windward side and the wind gets in under the roof and lifts. Or it breaks free of its foundations. Sinking the greenhouse into the ground is another way of making them more robust in exposed places. Regards, Martin Brown |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
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from "Keith Pritchard" contains these words: We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Most of the bad weather i.e. strong gusting winds, come from the south west. Fortunately the garden is completely sheltered from that side - but almost totally open from the east, with a stone wall about four feet high, about three open paddocks and then a drop down over the cliff! The north and south sides of the garden have shelter some within about 50ft in each direction. Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? I recommend Robinsons GH's for exposed windy places...we had one that size in the last garden, which was 18 yrs old, still as good as new, and had never lost a pane to weather. It withstood gales of 80 mph. on bleak high exposed moorland just south of the Scottish Highlands. Iirc, Robinson's used to claim that many of their GH's survived the great hurricane in England. We made an outline concrete foundation (with shuttering) the same size as the base then bolted the GH onto it. Janet. |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
Hello Keith,
You aren't an 'aquaintance' of Phillippa who used to work at Save & Prosper in Romford, are you? Jo "Keith Pritchard" wrote in message ... We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Most of the bad weather i.e. strong gusting winds, come from the south west. Fortunately the garden is completely sheltered from that side - but almost totally open from the east, with a stone wall about four feet high, about three open paddocks and then a drop down over the cliff! The north and south sides of the garden have shelter some within about 50ft in each direction. Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? Thanks for any help in advance, Keith (remove nospam from email address to reply privately) |
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No jo,
but it sounds like an admirable cause! best wishes, Keith "jo" wrote in message news:3XP8a.9789$Vx2.735420@wards... Hello Keith, You aren't an 'aquaintance' of Phillippa who used to work at Save & Prosper in Romford, are you? |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
Shame, I would like to get in touch with my old pal 'Phil' (who was very
intimate with a Keith Pritchard) but obviously not you!! What's the Portland bit then? I'm confused. Sorry this is nothing to do with gardening, but I really thought I'd got a link to my old pal. Not to worry..all the best. By the way....do you know anything about good plants for very shady areas? "Keith (Portland)" wrote in message ... No jo, but it sounds like an admirable cause! best wishes, Keith "jo" wrote in message news:3XP8a.9789$Vx2.735420@wards... Hello Keith, You aren't an 'aquaintance' of Phillippa who used to work at Save & Prosper in Romford, are you? |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
"Keith Pritchard" wrote in message
... Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? Apparently the ones shaped more like a polytunnel shape, with sloping rather than vertical sides are more resistant to wind. MArtin |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
"Keith Pritchard" wrote in message ... We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Most of the bad weather i.e. strong gusting winds, come from the south west. Fortunately the garden is completely sheltered from that side - but almost totally open from the east, with a stone wall about four feet high, about three open paddocks and then a drop down over the cliff! The north and south sides of the garden have shelter some within about 50ft in each direction. Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? Thanks for any help in advance, Keith Hi Keith We live in an exposed area too though inland but with no windbreak on the prevailing SW side (greenhouse site) so wind tolerance was a strong factor in our decision making process. Last year we were considering a Robinson's after much research and contacted, amongst others, a super company called The Incredibly Sensible Greenhouse Company (bit of a mouthful but does exactly what it says on the tin!). In the end we went for a 'special' that Bill, the owner, has modified from an Elite Belmont - known as a Maxi. He took all the best things about Robinson's (which he highly recommends too) and zooped up the Belmont to withstand the worst that the weather could throw at it. Basically you can have more greenhouse for your money but with no compromise (we feel) on quality other than whisper closing doors and draught excluders on the roof vents. This compromise gave us loads of extra bracing, 4mm toughened glass, extra vents, hanging basket rail which doubles as length bracing and an extruded shelf doubling as end bracing. So far it has withstood 48mph winds without flinching - its an 8ft x 16ft. No I don't work for them! I was just very impressed with their prompt replies and no nonsense advice. They stock lots of makes and models so they're quite unbiased - it was almost an afterthought that Bill mentioned the Maxi. You can find them at: http://www.isgreenhouses.co.uk/index.html Good luck --A |
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greenhouse for a very windy spot?
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 23:20:06 +0000 (UTC), "Keith Pritchard"
wrote: We live in extremely exposed coastal position where winds get up to 60+mph on occasions. We would like to erect a greenhouse sized approximately 8ft x 10ft! Most of the bad weather i.e. strong gusting winds, come from the south west. Fortunately the garden is completely sheltered from that side - but almost totally open from the east, with a stone wall about four feet high, about three open paddocks and then a drop down over the cliff! The north and south sides of the garden have shelter some within about 50ft in each direction. Is there any greenhouse on the market designed to withstand high wind (when the door and vents are all fully closed)? The Robinson Riviera is promoted as being 'built to promote the toughest weather conditions... and is apparently 'constructed with significantly more aluminium than most other greenhouses of a comparable size'. Is this likely to be of any use here...? Thanks for any help in advance, Keith (remove nospam from email address to reply privately) You might think of getting one with sloping sides, rather than vertical (there's probably a special name for the design, but I don't know it). I have one exposed to SW gales straight off the Atlantic, that has stood for years. Any greenhouse needs good foundations though. -- Chris E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net |
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