In article ,
Mike Lyle wrote:
Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article . 150,
Victoria Clare writes:
[...]
3) 'my lover' - surely a South Devon term, not a Cornish one?

Probably. "My love" was the form used, though "my dear" was
more common if I recall correctly.

I wish I could remember clearly, but I can't actually place "My
lover" with any precision -- you could even convince me it was Wilts;
but the expression in East Devon, just south of the Moor, was
certainly "Mah dearr". As England goes, Devon's a big place.

I was referring to Cornwall. I have never lived in Devon.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 1/6/05 19:42, in article , "Mike Lyle"
wrote:

Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article . 150,
Victoria Clare writes:
[...]
3) 'my lover' - surely a South Devon term, not a Cornish one?

Probably. "My love" was the form used, though "my dear" was
more common if I recall correctly.

I wish I could remember clearly, but I can't actually place "My
lover" with any precision -- you could even convince me it was Wilts;
but the expression in East Devon, just south of the Moor, was
certainly "Mah dearr". As England goes, Devon's a big place.

'My loverrrr" is certainly Devonian as is 'my maid' and 'my man', though all
are rarely heard now, sadly.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

(Nick Maclaren) wrote in news:d7kpds$9ui$1
@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk:

In article ,
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
The message . 150
from Victoria Clare contains these words:

3) 'my lover' - surely a South Devon term, not a Cornish one?

He's probably a Grockle innit.

That's emmet. Foreigners call them grockles.


In North Devon Grockle is the correct term. I believe emmet to be the
Cornish equivalent.

As far as I recall, if someone called you 'my lover' in North Devon (when I
was growing up there), they were probably taking the **** out of the accent
of someone from South/Mid Devon (they kind of merge together when you are
looking from Barnstaple, like Cumbria and Scotland on the new BBC weather
map). I think 'my dear' is more genuine.

I still don't think my original terminology was in any way unclear though,
and as I have lived practically my whole life in houses surrounded by the
dratted things, I feel I can call them what I like as long as people know
what I mean, which they clearly do.

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Victoria Clare wrote:
I still don't think my original terminology was in any way unclear though,
and as I have lived practically my whole life in houses surrounded by the
dratted things, I feel I can call them what I like as long as people know
what I mean, which they clearly do.

That's how the language changes. To me, if someone said "Cornish bank"
I would think of Barclay's or similar. See Mr. Maclaren's post on the
disappearence of Cornish accent/dialect/patois, whichever. This helps
the speed of change.

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

'My loverrrr" is certainly Devonian as is 'my maid' and 'my man', though all
are rarely heard now, sadly.

'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

On 3/6/05 10:24 am, in article
, "Jaques d'Alltrades"
wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

'My loverrrr" is certainly Devonian as is 'my maid' and 'my man', though all
are rarely heard now, sadly.

'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Sacha wrote:
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)

ITYM "bounders and varlets". HTH.

In article , Sacha
writes

'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)
Not in my household, although my husband could always adopt Butler as a
middle name.
--
Judith Lea

On 3/6/05 11:55 am, in article , "Chris Bacon"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)

ITYM "bounders and varlets". HTH.

Oh, *very* good. ;-)
--

Sacha
(remove the weeds for email)

On 3/6/05 12:19 pm, in article , "Judith
Lea" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes

'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)
Not in my household, although my husband could always adopt Butler as a
middle name.

Given your gold slippers, I think 'Parker' would be more suitable for your
butler. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)

Things aren't the same since the war, y'know. Just can't get the staff, what?

Why, for a couple of months I've been advertising locally for a Saturday
Boy, and no-one's even *ASKED* about the prestigious position.

(See http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ad/ )

True, I don't provide a livery, d'you think I should?

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.

The message
from Chris Bacon contains these words:
Sacha wrote:
Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)

ITYM "bounders and varlets". HTH.

No, that would be Cambridgeshier and Essex.

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

On 4/6/05 0:15, in article ,
"Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote:

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

'My Man' is oft heard in Norfolk and Suffolk.

Ah but they're very posh counties, and butlers and valets abound! ;-)

Things aren't the same since the war, y'know. Just can't get the staff, what?

Why, for a couple of months I've been advertising locally for a Saturday
Boy, and no-one's even *ASKED* about the prestigious position.

(See http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ad/ )

True, I don't provide a livery, d'you think I should?

I'm sure that's where you're going wrong. ;-) Breeches and gaiters and a
collarless shirt, plus free straw for the chewing of, are the minimum
requirements. ;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

The message
from Sacha contains these words:

True, I don't provide a livery, d'you think I should?

I'm sure that's where you're going wrong. ;-) Breeches and gaiters and a
collarless shirt, plus free straw for the chewing of, are the minimum
requirements. ;-)

I'm sure you're right.

I've some spare flatcaps, too, but unfortunately not of the 'Ecky Thump'
variety. I take it he brings his own tacketty boots?

--
Rusty
Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar.
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/

Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:
[...]
Why, for a couple of months I've been advertising locally for a
Saturday Boy, and no-one's even *ASKED* about the prestigious
position.

(See http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ad/ )
[...]

¡Que sorpresa! if I may say so.

--
Mike.