We recently lost trees due to a neighbour cutting them down (they were on
his property) but gave us a great deal of privacy
We have very little room to plant more becauce we have decking running all
the way to the fence and at that only have about 9feet of decking to play
with we are looking for a highish growing plant tree that can be grown in a
pot that we can sit on the decking that will give us our privacy back. It
cannot be too bushy we were thinking along the lines of a bamboo or two
What do you suggest

In article , martin
writes
We recently lost trees due to a neighbour cutting them down (they were on
his property) but gave us a great deal of privacy
We have very little room to plant more becauce we have decking running all
the way to the fence and at that only have about 9feet of decking to play
with we are looking for a highish growing plant tree that can be grown in a
pot that we can sit on the decking that will give us our privacy back. It
cannot be too bushy we were thinking along the lines of a bamboo or two
What do you suggest


You could put up some trellis (instant screen!) and put some trailing
plants
along it. HTH
--
June Hughes

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:30:51 +0000, June Hughes
wrote:


You could put up some trellis (instant screen!) and put some trailing
plants
along it. HTH

June beat me to it. Grow Golden hops (Humulus lupulus aureus IIRC)
preferably in the ground. Though they _will_ grow in large pots, ours
never produced hops until we put them in the ground. Now is the time
to plant. The big advantage is that they die right back each winter
and allow you to maintain the trellis. And, oh yes, they are gorgeous
- I like to thing of them as the N. European equivalent to the
mediterranean vine.

--
Derek Turner

Outlook Express is worth precisely what you paid for it.

In article , Derek Turner
writes
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:30:51 +0000, June Hughes
wrote:


You could put up some trellis (instant screen!) and put some trailing
plants
along it. HTH

June beat me to it. Grow Golden hops (Humulus lupulus aureus IIRC)
preferably in the ground. Though they _will_ grow in large pots, ours
never produced hops until we put them in the ground. Now is the time
to plant. The big advantage is that they die right back each winter
and allow you to maintain the trellis. And, oh yes, they are gorgeous
- I like to thing of them as the N. European equivalent to the
mediterranean vine.

I may have beaten you to it but I hadn't thought about hops. Do you
mean real, _beery_ hops?? As a bitter drinker, that would be most
satisfactory. I haven't noticed them for sale. Where do you get them,
please? TIA
--
June Hughes

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:41:53 +0000, June Hughes
wrote:



I may have beaten you to it but I hadn't thought about hops. Do you
mean real, _beery_ hops??

yep, but I haven't tried to make beer with them the 'Aureus' (Golden
hop) is grown for its beauty rather than its productivity, I suspect.

As a bitter drinker, that would be most
satisfactory. I haven't noticed them for sale. Where do you get them,
please? TIA

http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder...s.asp?ID=91715

expect pay £6-£8 per plant, which at this time of year will look like
nothing at all - maybe a few bits of last year's dead vines above
ground. Romps away to 15 feet each summer, spreads, propagated easily
from 'Irishman's' cuttings (i.e. a shoot with some root attached! Make
sure you get the girls as the boys don't yield hops!
hth
--
Derek Turner

Outlook Express is worth precisely what you paid for it.

In article , Derek Turner
writes
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:41:53 +0000, June Hughes
wrote:



I may have beaten you to it but I hadn't thought about hops. Do you
mean real, _beery_ hops??

yep, but I haven't tried to make beer with them the 'Aureus' (Golden
hop) is grown for its beauty rather than its productivity, I suspect.

As a bitter drinker, that would be most
satisfactory. I haven't noticed them for sale. Where do you get them,
please? TIA

http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder...s.asp?ID=91715

expect pay £6-£8 per plant, which at this time of year will look like
nothing at all - maybe a few bits of last year's dead vines above
ground. Romps away to 15 feet each summer, spreads, propagated easily
from 'Irishman's' cuttings (i.e. a shoot with some root attached! Make
sure you get the girls as the boys don't yield hops!

thanks. Will have a look.
--
June Hughes

June Hughes wrote in message ...
snip
I may have beaten you to it but I hadn't thought about hops. Do you
mean real, _beery_ hops?? As a bitter drinker, that would be most
satisfactory. I haven't noticed them for sale. Where do you get them,
please? TIA

I don't know how many you'd need to brew your own but you need the
female version of the plant and it proves quite hard to find. IF
you're lucky and can find a (guaranteed) female plant, grab it because
it's much more attractive than the male - naturally. ;-)
The fruits are really lovely but this is a plant to give a load of
space to because it's one of life's natural thugs in the garden.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk

In article , Sacha
writes
June Hughes wrote in message
...
snip
I may have beaten you to it but I hadn't thought about hops. Do you
mean real, _beery_ hops?? As a bitter drinker, that would be most
satisfactory. I haven't noticed them for sale. Where do you get them,
please? TIA

I don't know how many you'd need to brew your own but you need the
female version of the plant and it proves quite hard to find. IF
you're lucky and can find a (guaranteed) female plant, grab it because
it's much more attractive than the male - naturally. ;-)
The fruits are really lovely but this is a plant to give a load of
space to because it's one of life's natural thugs in the garden.

Oh! A thug! My garden is too small for those

I have a bamboo in a large pot but that is as far as I can go. In a
12ft by 90ft garden, I can't afford to make a mistake.

However, we have some lovely hops in our local park - not very popular
but a very wild area for London - and they smell wonderful. Strangely,
after what you have said Sacha, they do not seem to spread. They seem
to grow as a hedge. Perhaps they are a special breed of hop. Having
lived in Kent some 30 years ago, I can remember the daunting height of
the commercial hops growing there.

The local council used to have their parks nursery in the said park and
now it has a most wonderful, wild selection of trees and shrubs, growing
naturally in a rather strange surrounding (ie next to the local
cemetery!) There was also a sewage-plant in the park, which was
demolished some 12 years ago. It has spawned some interesting mushrooms
and unfortunately has now developed lots of bumps and dips, in which the
water collects in large quantities every winter and spring.
--
June Hughes

June beat me to it. Grow Golden hops (Humulus lupulus aureus IIRC)
preferably in the ground. Though they _will_ grow in large pots, ours
never produced hops until we put them in the ground. Now is the time
to plant. The big advantage is that they die right back each winter
and allow you to maintain the trellis. And, oh yes, they are gorgeous
- I like to thing of them as the N. European equivalent to the
mediterranean vine.
Derek Turner

We grew Golden Hops for a few years with mixed blessings. It does look
lovely - a cheerful light shade of green and it grows very quickly each
year. However on the down side it is prone to caterpillars - not sure what
sort they are but ours sometimes became covered and the leaves can become
somewhat ragged. Also it has the habit of putting out suckers and spreading
invasively. I moved one two years ago and still keep finding the odd piece
coming up nearby from a missed stray sucker shoot. On the plus side if you
want to propagate it this is a doddle - the root/shoot suckers it produces
thrive anywhere - you could probably grow them in the heart of a nuclear
reactor!
Another downside to the plant - I found that other plants within a few feet
of it were mysteriously dying or looking very ill (adjacent Pyracanthus
hedging looked very ill and has eventually recovered after digging up the
Golden Hop). I don't know if the hop gives off something that other plants
don't like or if it "poisons" the soil or what, but there was definitely a
circle of "doom" around the plant. It does have that strong "Hop" smell in
the Summer - perhaps that is poisonous to other plants and is to blame.
--
Drakanthus.


(Spam filter: Include the word VB anywhere in the subject line or emails
will never reach me.)

June Hughes wrote in message ...
In article , Sacha
writes
snip
The fruits are really lovely but this is a plant to give a load of
space to because it's one of life's natural thugs in the garden.

Oh! A thug! My garden is too small for those

You can grow it up a pillar or over one of those tall obelisk things.
I found when I grew it on a wall beside other things that it just
strangled the life out of them.


I have a bamboo in a large pot but that is as far as I can go. In a
12ft by 90ft garden, I can't afford to make a mistake.

However, we have some lovely hops in our local park - not very popular
but a very wild area for London - and they smell wonderful. Strangely,
after what you have said Sacha, they do not seem to spread. They seem
to grow as a hedge. Perhaps they are a special breed of hop. Having
lived in Kent some 30 years ago, I can remember the daunting height of
the commercial hops growing there.

Interesting that you say it's grown as a hedge because it dies away to
nothing in winter, so it can't be used for excluding or serious
screening purposes.
snip
--
Sacha

In article , Sacha
writes
June Hughes wrote in message
...

However, we have some lovely hops in our local park - not very popular
but a very wild area for London - and they smell wonderful. Strangely,
after what you have said Sacha, they do not seem to spread. They seem
to grow as a hedge. Perhaps they are a special breed of hop. Having
lived in Kent some 30 years ago, I can remember the daunting height of
the commercial hops growing there.

Interesting that you say it's grown as a hedge because it dies away to
nothing in winter, so it can't be used for excluding or serious
screening purposes.

I didn't say it was grown as a hedge but that it seems to grow as a
hedge. It grows up and along a 6 foot wire fence in our semi-wild local
park. As said earlier, the area used to be the nursery for the local
council's own plants.
--
June Hughes

(Sacha) wrote:

You can grow it up a pillar or over one of those tall obelisk things.

I have seen them grown on a tall teepee; sort of like what you grow green
beans on but much higher at Old Sturbridge Village, a U.S. reproduction of
a colonial era town. And they used to be grown commercially west of me on
high trellises many years ago- big enough that schools shut down for a week
for the autumn harvest.

I'm considering getting some plants from a commercial nursery to grow for
my new son in law who makes beer. Gotta be nice to that lad!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G