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Betula to demand?
About a year ago I decided a silver birch would be ideal for a
particular spot in the garden, but because our garden is only 35ft x 21ft (with another house directly siding onto the bottom of it), the tree will have to either stay below about 20ft or be cut down when it gets there. Looking on the web, it seems no site can agree what size different cultivars grow to. The "Snow Queen" looks as if it would do according to some sites whereas others put it 3 times bigger! Also I can't find a supplier who a) has them in stock and b) can deliver. I know we can't get one locally, so it would need to be delivered. Is there a service I can phone up and ask them for a specific type of tree and they'll source it, deliver it, and plant it for us? I would have liked to get one that was already about 10ft or so tall. |
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Inge Jones wrote: About a year ago I decided a silver birch would be ideal for a particular spot in the garden, but because our garden is only 35ft x 21ft (with another house directly siding onto the bottom of it), the tree will have to either stay below about 20ft or be cut down when it gets there. Looking on the web, it seems no site can agree what size different cultivars grow to. The "Snow Queen" looks as if it would do according to some sites whereas others put it 3 times bigger! Why do you feel a silver birch would be ideal? They are nice trees but seriously overplanted and their roots get into everything! Regards, Nick Maclaren, University of Cambridge Computing Service, New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email: Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679 |
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"Inge Jones" wrote in message . .. About a year ago I decided a silver birch would be ideal for a particular spot in the garden, but because our garden is only 35ft x 21ft (with another house directly siding onto the bottom of it), the tree will have to either stay below about 20ft or be cut down when it gets there. Looking on the web, it seems no site can agree what size different cultivars grow to. The "Snow Queen" looks as if it would do according to some sites whereas others put it 3 times bigger! Also I can't find a supplier who a) has them in stock and b) can deliver. I know we can't get one locally, so it would need to be delivered. Is there a service I can phone up and ask them for a specific type of tree and they'll source it, deliver it, and plant it for us? I would have liked to get one that was already about 10ft or so tall. You are really asking the impossible. This is something I was frequently asked for by landscape architects. Usually multistemmed around 6 metres high and going to stay at that for ever. Sorry trees do grow - if they don't they die. If you want 3 metres high I suggest you look for a heavy standard at about 2 metres of a species which is going to grow to perhaps 5 metres in time. Say something like an Amelanchier. As for varying estimates of size - well some suppliers specify expected height at 5 years, others at 10 years but in any case it's subject to widely varying site conditions and individual plants. hth Rod |
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"Inge Jones" wrote in message . .. About a year ago I decided a silver birch would be ideal for a particular spot in the garden, but because our garden is only 35ft x 21ft (with another house directly siding onto the bottom of it), the tree will have to either stay below about 20ft or be cut down when it gets there. Looking on the web, it seems no site can agree what size different cultivars grow to. The "Snow Queen" looks as if it would do according to some sites whereas others put it 3 times bigger! Try a multi stemmed Birch B.jacquemontii is my favourite. They take very well to coppicing. ie when it get too big chop it down to near ground and its well established root system will quickly push up new growth. Specimen multi stemmed can be quite expensive esp @retail prices. But you could try making your own by planting three young trees very close together in the same planting hole. In fact, that is a better bet for future coppicing than a purpose grown multi stem which will normally be a single stem with cut out leader to give busy growth pk |
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wrote on 30/1/03 7:43 am: snip Has anyone any suggestions for something other than a betula of that eventual height and no more than 2m spread and/or very sparse canopy? I have also heard of a eucalyptus - Niphophila penduala? - that might do, if I could find out more about it. Inge, try these people for Eucalyptus: www.eucalyptus.co.uk They're very knowledgeable and very good. We sometimes buy things in from them and before I married Ray they supplied me with about 8 beautifully healthy plants. There's a huge variety of Eucalypts and you'll surely find one with lovely bark, too. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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says... Inge, try these people for Eucalyptus: www.eucalyptus.co.uk Very useful link, thanks. But - bah! - they're out of stock of the very one I was thinking of. But then since it is such a useful site it has informed me that now is not the time to be planting eucalyptus anyway, so they might have them in when the time comes. I smiled and recognised myself in this: "Some customers would like a species that will grow rapidly for two or three years, get to about 15ft, and then stop. This is not the way that Eucalypts grow." |
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wrote on 30/1/03 1:12 pm: In article , says... Inge, try these people for Eucalyptus: www.eucalyptus.co.uk Very useful link, thanks. But - bah! - they're out of stock of the very one I was thinking of. But then since it is such a useful site it has informed me that now is not the time to be planting eucalyptus anyway, so they might have them in when the time comes. I smiled and recognised myself in this: "Some customers would like a species that will grow rapidly for two or three years, get to about 15ft, and then stop. This is not the way that Eucalypts grow." Console yourself with the thought that this is something Ray says to me at least 5 times a season about some of *our* customers, too! A few want something that will go to precisely 8' and not 6" more, yet others buy some young and hopeful plant and promptly ask how soon they should start hacking it down! Takes all sorts. ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk |
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In article , Inge Jones
writes I've got a Rowan outside the front of my house (on the pavement). It's beautiful particularly in late summer early autumn, and attracts lots of birds. I keep an eye on it and call the council if it needs some attention. But that particular tree would be far too wide and dense for my back garden - as it must be planted in the only spot that gets sunshine, it would completely eliminate anything other than moss or shade-loving plants from my planting scheme, and cover a quarter of the garden (-: Presumably there are varieties of sorbus that grow differently? Do you happen to know a URL where I could see some? I'm doing a search right now.... I have one of the white berried species - sorry, can't remember which - which is fairly delicate in that its branches aren't particularly dense. Maybe that's because it's not very old - I planted it only 10 years ago. The other suggestion in this thread is an interesting one - amelenchier. It has small delicate leaves which seem translucent in the spring. -- Kay Easton Edward's earthworm page: http://www.scarboro.demon.co.uk/garden/ |
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Inge Jones wrote: In article , says... What about a Sorbus (mountain ash) with a columnar shape - sorry, cant remember which ones. Light canopy, white flowers, coloured berries, and without that irritating habit of birches of dropping twigs all over the place. I've got a Rowan outside the front of my house (on the pavement). It's beautiful particularly in late summer early autumn, and attracts lots of birds. I keep an eye on it and call the council if it needs some attention. But that particular tree would be far too wide and dense for my back garden - as it must be planted in the only spot that gets sunshine, it would completely eliminate anything other than moss or shade-loving plants from my planting scheme, and cover a quarter of the garden (-: Presumably there are varieties of sorbus that grow differently? Do you happen to know a URL where I could see some? I'm doing a search right now.... My feeling is that you are crying for the moon. Perhaps a better possibility is one of the borderline tree/shrubs that can be pruned as a tree (i.e. cut out suckers). If it gets too tall, you can then cut it down and it will grow again at the rate of 3-6' a year! Plants in that category include hazel (ordinary growth, not contorta) and several willows. S. daphnoides should do well, as might S. viminalis. They are rather thirsty, but their shade is fairly light. Regards, Nick Maclaren, University of Cambridge Computing Service, New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email: Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679 |
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