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#31
09-02-2005, 03:14 PM
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Wow! Barracloff swollowed a dixonary
Feel better now Janet? |
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#33
09-02-2005, 03:39 PM
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In article , Sacha writes: | | Despite my 'little man' remark a lot of 'posh gardeners' like to do their | own thing in the garden and are frequently found 'bums up' in the herbaceous | border. It's said that the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire cherishes a remark | in her visitors' book - "We saw the Duke in the garden and he looked quite | normal!". I was interpreting your remark to be a somewhat snide (and probably correct) remark about the sort of 'posh' people that live in Hampstead :-) Traditionally, the genuine aristocracy and others were indeed likely to be found doing the actual work, often dressed in clothing that the under-gardener wouldn't be seen dead in! There might well be some people in Hampstead with the same attitude, but there will definitely be a lot that would almost never get their manicured hands muddy, but would blither on about "my garden" at length. I would tend to choose either type, depending on how the character fits. The former type would employ a 'little man' primarily to mow the lawn, dig new beds over and do the general, heavyish, unskilled work, and would do things like take her own cuttings. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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#34
09-02-2005, 05:37 PM
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On 9/2/05 2:39 pm, in article , "Nick
Maclaren" wrote: In article , Sacha writes: | | Despite my 'little man' remark a lot of 'posh gardeners' like to do their | own thing in the garden and are frequently found 'bums up' in the herbaceous | border. It's said that the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire cherishes a remark | in her visitors' book - "We saw the Duke in the garden and he looked quite | normal!". I was interpreting your remark to be a somewhat snide (and probably correct) remark about the sort of 'posh' people that live in Hampstead :-) You were right, too. Those who 'would be posh' will ring the bell to get someone to pick up their handkerchief and looks at the hallmarks on others' silver. The real thing is far too secure for such nonsense. Traditionally, the genuine aristocracy and others were indeed likely to be found doing the actual work, often dressed in clothing that the under-gardener wouldn't be seen dead in! This precise thing happened to my father outlaw who was gardening in some disgraceful old clothes and was asked by a 'Hampstead type" where his lordship was! There might well be some people in Hampstead with the same attitude, but there will definitely be a lot that would almost never get their manicured hands muddy, but would blither on about "my garden" at length. Touch of the Judith Bliss's but nothing like as much fun. I would tend to choose either type, depending on how the character fits. The former type would employ a 'little man' primarily to mow the lawn, dig new beds over and do the general, heavyish, unskilled work, and would do things like take her own cuttings. If she was at all like a few I can think of, she'd be quite happy to shovel the manure on, too but might get Mr Jenkins to do it once she's in her 80s. ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
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#35
09-02-2005, 05:38 PM
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On 9/2/05 2:56 pm, in article ,
" wrote: On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:21:35 +0000, Sacha wrote: On 9/2/05 10:03 am, in article , "Bennett Langdon" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message k... snip Whatever she grows (other than shrubs) would be planted in great masses, no 'dot' planting in this garden! As to what she does in the garden at different times of year, would she do *anything* other than pick flowers for the house? Wouldn't there be a 'little man' to do the actual gardening? ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) *Many* thanks for this! Nick Despite my 'little man' remark a lot of 'posh gardeners' like to do their own thing in the garden and are frequently found 'bums up' in the herbaceous border. It's said that the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire cherishes a remark in her visitors' book - "We saw the Duke in the garden and he looked quite normal!". Must make a change from my son's favourite comment written in visitors books "Incredibly boring" Now that's like the child being dragged round yet another museum in Greece who was overheard to say "Oh mummy, not MORE ladies with no clothes on"! ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
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#36
09-02-2005, 06:52 PM
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"Sacha" wrote in message k... On 9/2/05 10:03 am, in article , "Bennett Langdon" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message k... snip Whatever she grows (other than shrubs) would be planted in great masses, no 'dot' planting in this garden! As to what she does in the garden at different times of year, would she do *anything* other than pick flowers for the house? Wouldn't there be a 'little man' to do the actual gardening? ;-) -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) *Many* thanks for this! Nick Despite my 'little man' remark a lot of 'posh gardeners' like to do their own thing in the garden and are frequently found 'bums up' in the herbaceous border. It's said that the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire cherishes a remark in her visitors' book - "We saw the Duke in the garden and he looked quite normal!". I think you might find The Lasket by Roy Strong on the making of his garden, a good book to browse through. He wasn't born 'posh' but he knows 'posh', if you see what I mean and is very hot on strong architectural planting. And here's a link to the RHS calendar of work in the garden: http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/calendar.asp Many thanks. PS Have you got a Cornish Aromatic Apple Tree? Nick |
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#37
09-02-2005, 06:53 PM
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:21:35 +0000, Sacha
wrote: ~On 9/2/05 10:03 am, in article , "Bennett ~Langdon" wrote: ~ ~ ~ "Sacha" wrote in message ~ k... ~snip ~ Whatever she grows (other than shrubs) would be planted in great masses, ~ no 'dot' planting in this garden! ~ As to what she does in the garden at different times of year, would she do ~ *anything* other than pick flowers for the house? Wouldn't there be a ~ 'little man' to do the actual gardening? ;-) ~ -- ~ ~ Sacha ~ (remove the weeds for email) ~ ~ ~ *Many* thanks for this! ~ ~ Nick ~ ~ ~Despite my 'little man' remark a lot of 'posh gardeners' like to do their ~own thing in the garden and are frequently found 'bums up' in the herbaceous ~border. It's said that the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire cherishes a remark ~in her visitors' book - "We saw the Duke in the garden and he looked quite ~normal!". Um, Dowager? I hadn't heard the Duke had died! AFAIK (and their website) he's still here... Having been brought up a stone's throw from Chatsworth, I can say that the Duke and Duchess have done a tremendous amount for the local area and people. The main estate is free to enter, there is a lovely garden centre there, car parks (again free), loads of walks, and the House isn't too expensive to look round. And they are indeed lovely normal people (going by one of the estate employees who lives 3 doors away from my parents!). I fell in the weir once  Sorry - bit of a diversion! ~I think you might find The Lasket by Roy Strong on the making of his garden, ~a good book to browse through. He wasn't born 'posh' but he knows 'posh', ~if you see what I mean and is very hot on strong architectural planting. ~And here's a link to the RHS calendar of work in the garden: ~http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/calendar.asp ~ ~Oh and she might be iffy about petunias BTW, except for the very soft ~coloured or white ones trailing from a lovely old urn. And *definitely* no ~bizzy lizzies but certainly their cousin, Impatiens tinctoria, "if it ~survives our winters, my dear". ;-) :-) I have this strange impression of Rosemary and Thyme's next murderous job... though can anyone tell me if they did bump off one of them as I missed the last eps? -- jane Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you may still exist but you have ceased to live. Mark Twain Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks! |
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#38
09-02-2005, 08:59 PM
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Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message from (Nick Maclaren) contains these words: In article , Janet Baraclough wrote: The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Often only too realistic, as well: "I don't know what to give my wife for Christmas: after all, I've only been married to her for twenty years." Speaking of which, last week John met our neighbour returning from a lone shopping trip to a Shed. The neighbour had been to that repository of feminine delights to choose "a surprise" for his wife's 59th birthday on Valentine's Day . An electric drill. (It was a toss-up between that and a kitchen hob). Does history relate the sort of things that she buys him? A book about his hearts desire, old Massey Ferguson tractors. I rest my case. Mike. |
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#39
09-02-2005, 10:16 PM
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#40
09-02-2005, 10:18 PM
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On 9/2/05 5:52 pm, in article , "Bennett
Langdon" wrote: "Sacha" wrote in message k... snip. And here's a link to the RHS calendar of work in the garden: http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/calendar.asp Many thanks. PS Have you got a Cornish Aromatic Apple Tree? No but these people have and we recommend them highly: http://www.thornhayes-nursery.co.uk -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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#41
09-02-2005, 10:26 PM
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On 9/2/05 5:53 pm, in article ,
"jane" wrote: On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 14:21:35 +0000, Sacha wrote: snip It's said that the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire cherishes a remark ~in her visitors' book - "We saw the Duke in the garden and he looked quite ~normal!". Um, Dowager? I hadn't heard the Duke had died! AFAIK (and their website) he's still here... I don't know which web site you're looking at but the current one says: "It is with the greatest sadness that we report the death of the 11th Duke of Devonshire, KG, PC, MC, on 3rd May 2004. He was 84 and had held the title since 1950. He is survived by his wife, now the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire, and their three children, eight grandchildren and eleven great-grandchildren. Their son, formerly Lord Hartington, is now the 12th Duke of Devonshire..........." http://www.chatsworth-house.co.uk/ne...011th_duke.htm -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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#42
09-02-2005, 10:50 PM
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"Bennett Langdon" wrote in message ... In a message dated 08/02/2005 14:28:13 GMT Standard Time, Jmikelyle writes: What a fascinating question! I think the other Mike's jaundiced view is unlikely to apply, at least in its entirety, to Hampstead, though. Yes, I seem to have caught him in a bit of a mood. Many thanks for your reply by the way. She won't be following the TV garden makeover programmes. too vulgar, Yes I thought so too. though she may watch them avidly in order to enjoy expressing contempt. She'll probably rather fancy Monty Don, if she likes vulnerable men. She'll have some of the more expensive plants you don't get at bog-standard garden centres, and she'll probably be fascinated by herbs and some unusual vegetables. I see a walled garden, which means there'll be a peach, a nectarine, and an apricot Trees yeah? I am terribly ignorant about it but you see she's the hero's wife and the character presented herself to me and was quite definitely a gardener. . Some of the plants will have originated as cuttings or bulbs from her parents' garden or trips abroad. She probably won't like double flowers, even if it takes trouble to get the old single varieties; she may dislike variegated leaves. She'll be big on winter-flowering things and scent; and will be angry about modern sweet peas because they don't smell as strong as the old ones. The lawn will have camomile and shepherd's thyme in it for the scent. There will be nothing conspicuous in the place made of plastic. She's got to have roses. I was toying with the idea of her breeding roses and her making a new one that hase some nice symbolism. Do. That woiuld be a real winner. Just think of it, a one acre Hampstead garden. If I were her, I would flog the land as a building site and go and breed roses somewhere else. Franz |
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#43
09-02-2005, 10:50 PM
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"Bennett Langdon" wrote in message ... "Mike" wrote in message ... My word, I bet you feel a lot better getting that tirade off your chest. Might I respectfully recomend a wonderful book which would, I feel, do you a lot of good? "Psycho-cybernetics" by Maxwell Maltz. I do apologise: I seem to have caused an altercation. On the contrary, you are one huge figure of fun. Franz |
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#44
09-02-2005, 10:54 PM
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In article , Bennett Langdon
writes Many thanks. PS Have you got a Cornish Aromatic Apple Tree? I have. Why? -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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#45
09-02-2005, 11:06 PM
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On 9/2/05 2:08 am, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough" wrote: The message from "Mike Lyle" contains these words: Often only too realistic, as well: "I don't know what to give my wife for Christmas: after all, I've only been married to her for twenty years." Speaking of which, last week John met our neighbour returning from a lone shopping trip to a Shed. The neighbour had been to that repository of feminine delights to choose "a surprise" for his wife's 59th birthday on Valentine's Day . An electric drill. (It was a toss-up between that and a kitchen hob). Reminds me of a friend of mine who was a fanatical sailor with a dutiful fiancée and a very uncomfortable boat. The boat had no heads (loo) but was "bucket and chuck it". For a wedding present, he gave her a tyre to put on top of the bucket. Apparently, her eyes filled with tears. I can't imagine why. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.co.uk South Devon (remove the weeds to email me) |
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