Hi,

I have an awful lot of Gardeners Delight this year - basically stuck one in
each large pot with other veg. as these are listed as a trailing 'hanging
basket' tomato.

They seem different from other cherry tomatoes I have grown.

Instead of the green-yellow-orange-red colour change they seem to go
green-green/white-white/red-red.

The final red is more like an eating apple than a normal tomato.

The texture is also a bit 'mealy' and again not like other tomatoes.

Is this usual for this strain, or have I done something unusual to them?

I confess to being a little disappointed so far, but hopefully they will
make a good puree for freezing and later use in cooking.

Cheers
Dave R

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In article , David W.E. Roberts
writes
Hi,

I have an awful lot of Gardeners Delight this year - basically stuck one in
each large pot with other veg. as these are listed as a trailing 'hanging
basket' tomato.

They seem different from other cherry tomatoes I have grown.

Instead of the green-yellow-orange-red colour change they seem to go
green-green/white-white/red-red.

The final red is more like an eating apple than a normal tomato.

The texture is also a bit 'mealy' and again not like other tomatoes.

Is this usual for this strain, or have I done something unusual to them?

I confess to being a little disappointed so far, but hopefully they will
make a good puree for freezing and later use in cooking.


Could you reveal which seed supplier listed Gardener's Delight as
'trailing' or 'hanging basket' tomatoes? They are a 'cherry' or 'bite
size' tomato. They can be grown successfully either indoors or outside,
and either as cordons or bush plants. Their fruits normally form on long
trusses, ripening from green to a similar red as many popular red
tomatoes, and are above average in sweetness. They are very abundant and
they should continue cropping until late autumn/early winter.

Problems with colour, flavour and texture in tomatoes are more often a
result of management rather than species. G.D.s may have done better
alone in a pot without competition from other plants. A mealy texture in
any variety suggests over watering or over feeding.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have an awful lot of Gardeners Delight this year - basically stuck one
in
each large pot with other veg. as these are listed as a trailing 'hanging
basket' tomato.

They seem different from other cherry tomatoes I have grown.

Instead of the green-yellow-orange-red colour change they seem to go
green-green/white-white/red-red.

The final red is more like an eating apple than a normal tomato.

The texture is also a bit 'mealy' and again not like other tomatoes.

Is this usual for this strain, or have I done something unusual to them?

Very odd.
Gardeners Delight are normally grown as cordons under glass or free outside.
I've not seen them grown as Tumblers.
Ripening colour sequence is normal, although mine tend to start off a much
deeper green than Shirly, Plum or Tumbler.
Flavour and texture are outstanding, second only to Tumblers in my view.
Did you grow from seed? Don't trust the garden centres - I saw a number of
obviously mis-labelled toms on sale at the start of this season.

O.K. - very senior moment there.
Unwins Hanging Basket Tomato Garden Pearl.
Post below now corrected.

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have an awful lot of *Garden Pearl* this year - basically stuck one in
each large pot with other veg. as these are listed as a trailing 'hanging
basket' tomato.

They seem different from other cherry tomatoes I have grown.

Instead of the green-yellow-orange-red colour change they seem to go
green-green/white-white/red-red.

The final red is more like an eating apple than a normal tomato.

The texture is also a bit 'mealy' and again not like other tomatoes.

Is this usual for this strain, or have I done something unusual to them?

I confess to being a little disappointed so far, but hopefully they will
make a good puree for freezing and later use in cooking.

Cheers
Dave R

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"Alan Gould" wrote in message
...
snip
Problems with colour, flavour and texture in tomatoes are more often a
result of management rather than species.
snip
A mealy texture in
any variety suggests over watering or over feeding.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

As noted elsewhere - Garden Pearl (oops!)

They are well watered and fed - over watering seems to be happening as I
type :-)

However a couple of pots have been seriously underfed (pale green to
yellow/green foliage) and still produce the same results.

The results are the same for plants on their own in various sizes and styles
of pots, and those in with cucumbers and gherkins.

Thanks
Dave R

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:03:46 +0100, "David W.E. Roberts"
wrote:

O.K. - very senior moment there.
Unwins Hanging Basket Tomato Garden Pearl.
Post below now corrected.


"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have an awful lot of *Garden Pearl* this year - basically stuck one in
each large pot with other veg. as these are listed as a trailing 'hanging
basket' tomato.

I grew some tumbling tomatoes in a basket a few years ago and they did
go a whitish (pearly) colour before turning red. The name Garden
Pearl rings a bell. Can't have been impressed with the flavour as I
have not attempted them since.
Now Gardeners' Delight, that's another matter entirely!


Pam in Bristol

In article , David W.E. Roberts
writes
However a couple of pots have been seriously underfed (pale green to
yellow/green foliage) and still produce the same results.

Pale green or yellow/green foliage is often a result of oxygen
deficiency at the root system of the plant - caused by water-logging.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"Alan Gould" wrote in message
...
In article , David W.E. Roberts
writes
However a couple of pots have been seriously underfed (pale green
to
yellow/green foliage) and still produce the same results.

Pale green or yellow/green foliage is often a result of oxygen
deficiency at the root system of the plant - caused by
water-logging.

I'm lost here. I thought that Oxygen was a plant waste product. What
does the plant do with the Oxygen you say it needs at the root system?

Franz

My Garden Pearl have a touch of blue in them so that they are edging
towards magenta than the normal red/yellow colour. Most odd. Taste OK,
but not as good as Gardener's Delight.

Mark.

David W.E. Roberts wrote:
O.K. - very senior moment there.
Unwins Hanging Basket Tomato Garden Pearl.
Post below now corrected.

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in message
...

Hi,

I have an awful lot of *Garden Pearl* this year - basically stuck one in
each large pot with other veg. as these are listed as a trailing 'hanging
basket' tomato.

They seem different from other cherry tomatoes I have grown.

Instead of the green-yellow-orange-red colour change they seem to go
green-green/white-white/red-red.

The final red is more like an eating apple than a normal tomato.

The texture is also a bit 'mealy' and again not like other tomatoes.

Is this usual for this strain, or have I done something unusual to them?

I confess to being a little disappointed so far, but hopefully they will
make a good puree for freezing and later use in cooking.

Cheers
Dave R

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In article , Franz Heymann notfranz.
writes
I'm lost here. I thought that Oxygen was a plant waste product. What
does the plant do with the Oxygen you say it needs at the root system?

It is one of the minerals taken up by the plant.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"Alan Gould" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann
notfranz.
writes
I'm lost here. I thought that Oxygen was a plant waste product.
What
does the plant do with the Oxygen you say it needs at the root
system?

It is one of the minerals taken up by the plant.

I thought that such Oxygen as a plant needs is absorbed as the Ogygen
in Carbon Dioxide through the stomata or as components of molecules or
ions which the plant takes in through the roots. I am probably just
being ignorant, but I have never heard of Oxygen being absorbed
through the roots as gaseous molecules of Ogygen..
I do know that many plants abhor waterlogged conditions, but I did not
think that that was connected with the uptake of gaseous Oxygen
molecules through the roots.

Franz

In article , Franz Heymann
writes
I thought that such Oxygen as a plant needs is absorbed as the Ogygen
in Carbon Dioxide through the stomata or as components of molecules or
ions which the plant takes in through the roots. I am probably just
being ignorant, but I have never heard of Oxygen being absorbed
through the roots as gaseous molecules of Ogygen..
I do know that many plants abhor waterlogged conditions, but I did not
think that that was connected with the uptake of gaseous Oxygen
molecules through the roots.

Oxygen is not absorbed into plant roots as a gas, it converts into an
oxide mineral first, but that cannot happen in waterlogged or over-
compacted soil. That is why lawns need aeration from time to time.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

"Alan Gould" wrote in message
...
In article , Franz Heymann
writes
I thought that such Oxygen as a plant needs is absorbed as the
Ogygen
in Carbon Dioxide through the stomata or as components of molecules
or
ions which the plant takes in through the roots. I am probably
just
being ignorant, but I have never heard of Oxygen being absorbed
through the roots as gaseous molecules of Ogygen..
I do know that many plants abhor waterlogged conditions, but I did
not
think that that was connected with the uptake of gaseous Oxygen
molecules through the roots.

Oxygen is not absorbed into plant roots as a gas, it converts into
an
oxide mineral first, but that cannot happen in waterlogged or over-
compacted soil. That is why lawns need aeration from time to time.

That sounds more like it.

{:-))

Franz

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:50:02 +0100, Alan Gouldwrote:
Franz Heymann writes
I'm lost here. I thought that Oxygen was a plant waste product. What
does the plant do with the Oxygen you say it needs at the root system?

It is one of the minerals taken up by the plant.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

An essential element perhaps, not a mineral, though.
It is a factor in anaerobic/aerobic conditions mediating bacterial
and fungal activity in the root systems and enabling (or otherwise)
the plants ability to take up nutrients.

In article , Corncrake
writes
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:50:02 +0100, Alan Gouldwrote:
Franz Heymann writes
I'm lost here. I thought that Oxygen was a plant waste product. What
does the plant do with the Oxygen you say it needs at the root system?

It is one of the minerals taken up by the plant.
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.

An essential element perhaps, not a mineral, though.
It is a factor in anaerobic/aerobic conditions mediating bacterial
and fungal activity in the root systems and enabling (or otherwise)
the plants ability to take up nutrients.

I'm sorry, I don't fully understand that. Could you put it another way?
--
Alan & Joan Gould - North Lincs.