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In the early spring, I planted a dozen corms of a *yellow*
crocosmia.
( The variety was not specified in any more detail
{:-((
The plants are thriving, with the leaves now approximately 40 cm
long.
They were planted about 1.5 metres from a floriferous group of
"Lucifer, receiving very similar light, and in very similar soil
There is as yet no sign at all of any flower stems. Is it usual
for
newly planted Crocosmia corms not to yield flowering plants in the
year of planting?

My Lucifer is in mid-flowering, so are a couple of other red and
orange ones. None of the yellow ones has started yet; some have got
as
far as buds and others haven't.

If the corms are big enough, they usually flower the first year of
planting ime.

The corms were of a good size. The plants look happy enough. I
suppose I am just being impatient. I'll look the other way for a few
weeks.

Franz

"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in
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The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains
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In the early spring, I planted a dozen corms of a *yellow*
crocosmia.
( The variety was not specified in any more detail
{:-((
The plants are thriving, with the leaves now approximately 40 cm
long.
They were planted about 1.5 metres from a floriferous group of
"Lucifer, receiving very similar light, and in very similar soil
There is as yet no sign at all of any flower stems. Is it usual
for
newly planted Crocosmia corms not to yield flowering plants in the
year of planting?

My Lucifer is in mid-flowering, so are a couple of other red and
orange ones. None of the yellow ones has started yet; some have got
as
far as buds and others haven't.

If the corms are big enough, they usually flower the first year of
planting ime.

The corms were of a good size. The plants look happy enough. I
suppose I am just being impatient. I'll look the other way for a few
weeks.

Franz

On 31/7/04 8:22 pm, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

The message
from "Franz Heymann" contains these words:

In the early spring, I planted a dozen corms of a *yellow* crocosmia.
( The variety was not specified in any more detail
{:-((
The plants are thriving, with the leaves now approximately 40 cm long.
They were planted about 1.5 metres from a floriferous group of
"Lucifer, receiving very similar light, and in very similar soil
There is as yet no sign at all of any flower stems. Is it usual for
newly planted Crocosmia corms not to yield flowering plants in the
year of planting?

My Lucifer is in mid-flowering, so are a couple of other red and
orange ones. None of the yellow ones has started yet; some have got as
far as buds and others haven't.

If the corms are big enough, they usually flower the first year of
planting ime.


Here, Lucifer is going over and Solfatare is in flower and C. 'Tamana' which
we are 'bulking up' for trials, having bred it here, is in flower now, too.
;-)
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:33:28 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

In the early spring, I planted a dozen corms of a *yellow* crocosmia.
( The variety was not specified in any more detail
{:-((
The plants are thriving, with the leaves now approximately 40 cm long.
They were planted about 1.5 metres from a floriferous group of
"Lucifer, receiving very similar light, and in very similar soil
There is as yet no sign at all of any flower stems. Is it usual for
newly planted Crocosmia corms not to yield flowering plants in the
year of planting?

I can't say it's the usual pattern of behavior, but what you
describe doesn't surprise me. I suspect that crocosmia roots are
perennial, at least to some extent -- thus, when you buy dried
bulbs, it takes a year for new roots to develop fully and the
plant to start growing strongly.

IOW, crocosmia, though bulbous, doesn't actually go fully dormant
once established.

But be patient. Nearly all plant material you can buy is really
in the nature of a "starter" and can't be expected to do it's
best when first planted.

--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

On 1/8/04 11:50 am, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough.." wrote:

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from Sacha contains these words:


Here, Lucifer is going over and Solfatare is in flower and C. 'Tamana' which
we are 'bulking up' for trials, having bred it here, is in flower now, too.
;-)

Go on then..tell us about Tamana please.. or are new plants kept top
secret until you've got them registered?

Very James Bond! No, it's flowering in the garden now and is large
flowered, an orangey-red and has longer flower heads than Lucifer. Each
flower is about 5cm across, using my old school ruler! I love the colour of
both this and Lucifer but dislike Solfatare.
As it flowers later than Lucifer and is different in both colour and form,
Dave Fenwick, who noticed it in our garden a couple of years ago, suggested
Ray look into whether it's worth going for PBR on it. We're told Crocosmia
are very popular in USA but it remains to be seen whether the plant is worth
the effort, in commercial terms.
Unfortunately, until all the 'proper channels' have been negotiated, we
can't sell it or give it away yet.
--

Sacha

On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:55:19 +0100, Sacha wrote:

My Lucifer is in mid-flowering, so are a couple of other red and
orange ones. None of the yellow ones has started yet; some have got as
far as buds and others haven't.

If the corms are big enough, they usually flower the first year of
planting ime.


Here, Lucifer is going over and Solfatare is in flower and C. 'Tamana' which
we are 'bulking up' for trials, having bred it here, is in flower now, too.

Since you seem plugged into "The World of Crocosmias", let me
ask: just how many distinct yellows are there, aside from the
bronze-foliaged Solfatare?

I keep seeing yellow crocosmias for sale here under a surprising
variety of names and they mostly look alike, at least to me.
'George Davidson' and 'Jenny Bloom' are two examples, but if I
dredged the depths of my mind I'm sure I could come up with
others.

Unpleasantly, the wholesale nurseries here seem to be getting
more and more lax about accurate labelling. I've been glomming
onto perennial lobelias this year as they turn up, and the
labelling is so erratic that you can'd depend on any of it. For
example, I've got at least three different plants labelled
"Compliment Dark Red", and what I *think* is that plant under two
or three different names, each of which has been applied to at
least one distinct form.

I suspect the nurserymen can't be bothered to bring in labels
with the right names and just stick any old approximation in the
pots.

In a way, since I buy these things in flower, it hardly matters,
but it would be nice to know just what one has.

--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:55:19 +0100, Sacha wrote:

My Lucifer is in mid-flowering, so are a couple of other red and
orange ones. None of the yellow ones has started yet; some have got as
far as buds and others haven't.

If the corms are big enough, they usually flower the first year of
planting ime.


Here, Lucifer is going over and Solfatare is in flower and C. 'Tamana' which
we are 'bulking up' for trials, having bred it here, is in flower now, too.

Since you seem plugged into "The World of Crocosmias", let me
ask: just how many distinct yellows are there, aside from the
bronze-foliaged Solfatare?

I keep seeing yellow crocosmias for sale here under a surprising
variety of names and they mostly look alike, at least to me.
'George Davidson' and 'Jenny Bloom' are two examples, but if I
dredged the depths of my mind I'm sure I could come up with
others.

Unpleasantly, the wholesale nurseries here seem to be getting
more and more lax about accurate labelling. I've been glomming
onto perennial lobelias this year as they turn up, and the
labelling is so erratic that you can'd depend on any of it. For
example, I've got at least three different plants labelled
"Compliment Dark Red", and what I *think* is that plant under two
or three different names, each of which has been applied to at
least one distinct form.

I suspect the nurserymen can't be bothered to bring in labels
with the right names and just stick any old approximation in the
pots.

In a way, since I buy these things in flower, it hardly matters,
but it would be nice to know just what one has.

--
Rodger Whitlock
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
[change "atlantic" to "pacific" and
"invalid" to "net" to reply by email]

"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:33:28 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

In the early spring, I planted a dozen corms of a *yellow*
crocosmia.
( The variety was not specified in any more detail
{:-((
The plants are thriving, with the leaves now approximately 40 cm
long.
They were planted about 1.5 metres from a floriferous group of
"Lucifer, receiving very similar light, and in very similar soil
There is as yet no sign at all of any flower stems. Is it usual
for
newly planted Crocosmia corms not to yield flowering plants in the
year of planting?

I can't say it's the usual pattern of behavior, but what you
describe doesn't surprise me. I suspect that crocosmia roots are
perennial, at least to some extent -- thus, when you buy dried
bulbs, it takes a year for new roots to develop fully and the
plant to start growing strongly.

That does not agree with my previous experience of C 'Lucifer' and
ordinary orange Montbretia. They flowered well the year in which I
planted the corms.

IOW, crocosmia, though bulbous, doesn't actually go fully dormant
once established.

The corms I bought looked pretty dormant

But be patient. Nearly all plant material you can buy is really
in the nature of a "starter" and can't be expected to do it's
best when first planted.

I will take a new breath and start being patient once more.......

Franz

"Rodger Whitlock" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:33:28 +0000 (UTC), Franz Heymann wrote:

In the early spring, I planted a dozen corms of a *yellow*
crocosmia.
( The variety was not specified in any more detail
{:-((
The plants are thriving, with the leaves now approximately 40 cm
long.
They were planted about 1.5 metres from a floriferous group of
"Lucifer, receiving very similar light, and in very similar soil
There is as yet no sign at all of any flower stems. Is it usual
for
newly planted Crocosmia corms not to yield flowering plants in the
year of planting?

I can't say it's the usual pattern of behavior, but what you
describe doesn't surprise me. I suspect that crocosmia roots are
perennial, at least to some extent -- thus, when you buy dried
bulbs, it takes a year for new roots to develop fully and the
plant to start growing strongly.

That does not agree with my previous experience of C 'Lucifer' and
ordinary orange Montbretia. They flowered well the year in which I
planted the corms.

IOW, crocosmia, though bulbous, doesn't actually go fully dormant
once established.

The corms I bought looked pretty dormant

But be patient. Nearly all plant material you can buy is really
in the nature of a "starter" and can't be expected to do it's
best when first planted.

I will take a new breath and start being patient once more.......

Franz

On 1/8/04 6:06 pm, in article , "Rodger
Whitlock" wrote:

On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 10:55:19 +0100, Sacha wrote:

My Lucifer is in mid-flowering, so are a couple of other red and
orange ones. None of the yellow ones has started yet; some have got as
far as buds and others haven't.

If the corms are big enough, they usually flower the first year of
planting ime.


Here, Lucifer is going over and Solfatare is in flower and C. 'Tamana' which
we are 'bulking up' for trials, having bred it here, is in flower now, too.

Since you seem plugged into "The World of Crocosmias", let me
ask: just how many distinct yellows are there, aside from the
bronze-foliaged Solfatare?


I don't think we're plugged into the world of Crocosmias at all, really.
Why don't you email this query to Dave Fenwick on the website I gave
earlier? I'm sure he'd help you.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

In article , Janet
Baraclough.. writes
I've noticed the same. Lots of the "sheds" are selling perennial kinds
vaguely labelled " red lobelia" or "pink Lobelia". I've got a 3 ft tall
purple-flower one just opening, no clue what its name is.

I bought an "organic" water melon plant from B&Q (knock down getting rid
of price). Was a little surprised when it started fruiting cucumbers...

....nice cucumbers, though.

--
regards andyw

In article , Janet
Baraclough.. writes
I've noticed the same. Lots of the "sheds" are selling perennial kinds
vaguely labelled " red lobelia" or "pink Lobelia". I've got a 3 ft tall
purple-flower one just opening, no clue what its name is.

I bought an "organic" water melon plant from B&Q (knock down getting rid
of price). Was a little surprised when it started fruiting cucumbers...

....nice cucumbers, though.

--
regards andyw