In article , PK
writes

You can do it with a bit of fprwrd planning.... 2*Wisteria trained along
the side timbers of the pergola with all side branches cut back very short.
Grape vine(s) as a green roof in the sun.

Hmm ... I have a pergola with apples trained along the sides and over
the top, and a wisteria crawling along the top of the apples ... adding
a grape vine would be one step too far ... but could I grow a grape vine
up one of the other trees? I not worrying about maximising fruit, but
perhaps getting a little, while at the same time having an attractive
creeper?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on the
same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.


Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:208751

Victoria Clare wrote:
"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine
on the same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless
the pergola is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous
plants, and grapes need plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless
you have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less
separate.


You can do it with a bit of fprwrd planning.... 2*Wisteria trained along
the side timbers of the pergola with all side branches cut back very short.
Grape vine(s) as a green roof in the sun.

pk

In article ,
Victoria Clare writes:
|
| Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on the
| same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
| is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
| plenty of sun to crop well.

However, both can be pruned to be kept within bounds.

| I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
| have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.

In my case, the converse is more likely - but it is Vitis coignetae
and Wisteria frutescens.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , PK
writes

You can do it with a bit of fprwrd planning.... 2*Wisteria trained along
the side timbers of the pergola with all side branches cut back very short.
Grape vine(s) as a green roof in the sun.

Hmm ... I have a pergola with apples trained along the sides and over
the top, and a wisteria crawling along the top of the apples ... adding
a grape vine would be one step too far ... but could I grow a grape vine
up one of the other trees? I not worrying about maximising fruit, but
perhaps getting a little, while at the same time having an attractive
creeper?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on the
same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.


Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Xref: kermit uk.rec.gardening:208751

Victoria Clare wrote:
"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine
on the same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless
the pergola is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous
plants, and grapes need plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless
you have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less
separate.


You can do it with a bit of fprwrd planning.... 2*Wisteria trained along
the side timbers of the pergola with all side branches cut back very short.
Grape vine(s) as a green roof in the sun.

pk

In article ,
Victoria Clare writes:
|
| Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on the
| same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
| is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
| plenty of sun to crop well.

However, both can be pruned to be kept within bounds.

| I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
| have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.

In my case, the converse is more likely - but it is Vitis coignetae
and Wisteria frutescens.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article , PK
writes

You can do it with a bit of fprwrd planning.... 2*Wisteria trained along
the side timbers of the pergola with all side branches cut back very short.
Grape vine(s) as a green roof in the sun.

Hmm ... I have a pergola with apples trained along the sides and over
the top, and a wisteria crawling along the top of the apples ... adding
a grape vine would be one step too far ... but could I grow a grape vine
up one of the other trees? I not worrying about maximising fruit, but
perhaps getting a little, while at the same time having an attractive
creeper?

--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

i think i have enough space,ihave built a 18 ft long by 6ft wide pergola,the
south facing corner i want to grow the grape vine up and over.The west
facing side on the middle post the wisteria,(Wisteria brachybotris "SCHOWA
BENI")this one grows up to 4/6 metres at the most.Without sounding rude no
one has really answered my Q ,can anyone recommend a variety that will grow
up a pergola & have good tasting grapes,i know i am asking alot in our
climate as most, to fruit well need a greenhouse .

Thanks Keith,UK.
"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.218...
"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on
the
same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.


Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

i think i have enough space,ihave built a 18 ft long by 6ft wide pergola,the
south facing corner i want to grow the grape vine up and over.The west
facing side on the middle post the wisteria,(Wisteria brachybotris "SCHOWA
BENI")this one grows up to 4/6 metres at the most.Without sounding rude no
one has really answered my Q ,can anyone recommend a variety that will grow
up a pergola & have good tasting grapes,i know i am asking alot in our
climate as most, to fruit well need a greenhouse .

Thanks Keith,UK.
"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.218...
"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on
the
same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.


Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

i think i have enough space,ihave built a 18 ft long by 6ft wide pergola,the
south facing corner i want to grow the grape vine up and over.The west
facing side on the middle post the wisteria,(Wisteria brachybotris "SCHOWA
BENI")this one grows up to 4/6 metres at the most.Without sounding rude no
one has really answered my Q ,can anyone recommend a variety that will grow
up a pergola & have good tasting grapes,i know i am asking alot in our
climate as most, to fruit well need a greenhouse .

Thanks Keith,UK.
"Victoria Clare" wrote in message
.218...
"kenty ;-\)" wrote in
s.com:

Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would
like to grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this
possible if so can anyone recommend a variety?I live in
Nottingham,East midlands.


Um, do you mean you are planning to grow a wisteria and a grape vine on
the
same pergola? If so, I think you may need to re-think, unless the pergola
is a large one. Wisterias are very large vigorous plants, and grapes need
plenty of sun to crop well.

I'd be worried about shading out the vine with the wisteria - unless you
have plenty of room to prune both and keep them more or less separate.


Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

http://freespace.virgin.net/donovan....vineyard.htm#h



"kenty ;-)" wrote in message
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Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like
to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so
can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.

--
Thanks Keith,UK.

http://www.viticulture.co.uk/notes.html




"kenty ;-)" wrote in message
s.com...
Hi all,i have a pergola, which i am going to grow a wistera .I would like
to
grow a grape vine which are good enough too eat,is this possible if so
can
anyone recommend a variety?I live in Nottingham,East midlands.

--
Thanks Keith,UK.