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Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new
ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better? 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance? 3 Which ones last longer? Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil |
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![]() "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood
pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood
pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood
pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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thank you Gil,for your advice,very interesting,
neil Gil2 wrote in message ... Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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thank you Gil,for your advice,very interesting,
neil Gil2 wrote in message ... Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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thank you Gil,for your advice,very interesting,
neil Gil2 wrote in message ... Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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thank you Gil,for your advice,very interesting,
neil Gil2 wrote in message ... Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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thank you Gil,for your advice,very interesting,
neil Gil2 wrote in message ... Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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thank you Gil,for your advice,very interesting,
neil Gil2 wrote in message ... Proper railway sleepers are first put in a vacuum chamber to open the wood pores then flooded with preservative (possibly creosote) which soaks in to them to about half an inch deep. You can then put them on the ground and run trains over them for 25 years or so whilst the British rain & sun belt down on them and they need no further maintenance (normally). Even after this they are sold on for many different purposes and will last for another 25-40 years or more. The point then is, what is it you want new railway sleepers for ? - as the chances are you would be massively over engineering by using new sleepers, not to mention the unreasonable use of good wood. With the old ones, like anything second hand, just use your common sense to pick out ones which are reasonably sound, then pour some creosote down the old baseplate holes and bang in a plug of wood - thats all they will need. New railways mostly use concrete or steel these days but there are still many miles of old wooden sleepers out there before you need to start using new in the garden. Regards, G "the q" wrote in message ... "nb" wrote in message ... Could anyone please tell me which is better,proper old sleepers,or the new ones you can buy which have been treated? 1 Which ones look better?, look better for what? new one normally won't have the damage from their previous use. No tar stains to stick to either. 2 Which ones are low/no maintenance?, unless you intend to re-creosote them, neither needs much looking after. 3 Which ones last longer?, old good condition ones will normally last longer as they have years of creosote or the like soaked into them. Many thanks in advance from all you garden lovers....... neil The Q |
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