I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put
together a little photo page :

http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm

The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia
tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds
to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm
and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the
wind.

I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right
direction.

Many thanks

Phil

Charlie Pridham5/3/04 9:26


"Philip" wrote in message
. ..
I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I
put
together a little photo page :

http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm

The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia
tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy
seeds
to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm
and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the
wind.

I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right
direction.

Many thanks

Phil

Right up to the last pic I was certain its a Paulowinia tomentosum but the
seed in the pods of these is fine almost dust like, there are however more
than one species and I have only ever seen P. tomentosum. My money would be
on one of these, especially as it does not seem as big a tree as I would
expect P. tomentosum to be at flowering size.
--

Charlie, I wonder if you did see the very last pic? The seeds are quite
large and there are only two to each pod. What I think you're seeing as
small seeds like dust is the reflected light of the camera flash.
The seed pic might not have loaded on your computer and isn't in a frame
like the other pics.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Charlie Pridham5/3/04 9:26


"Philip" wrote in message
. ..
I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I
put
together a little photo page :

http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm

The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia
tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy
seeds
to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm
and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the
wind.

I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right
direction.

Many thanks

Phil

Right up to the last pic I was certain its a Paulowinia tomentosum but the
seed in the pods of these is fine almost dust like, there are however more
than one species and I have only ever seen P. tomentosum. My money would be
on one of these, especially as it does not seem as big a tree as I would
expect P. tomentosum to be at flowering size.
--

Charlie, I wonder if you did see the very last pic? The seeds are quite
large and there are only two to each pod. What I think you're seeing as
small seeds like dust is the reflected light of the camera flash.
The seed pic might not have loaded on your computer and isn't in a frame
like the other pics.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Charlie Pridham5/3/04 9:26


"Philip" wrote in message
. ..
I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I
put
together a little photo page :

http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm

The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia
tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy
seeds
to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm
and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the
wind.

I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right
direction.

Many thanks

Phil

Right up to the last pic I was certain its a Paulowinia tomentosum but the
seed in the pods of these is fine almost dust like, there are however more
than one species and I have only ever seen P. tomentosum. My money would be
on one of these, especially as it does not seem as big a tree as I would
expect P. tomentosum to be at flowering size.
--

Charlie, I wonder if you did see the very last pic? The seeds are quite
large and there are only two to each pod. What I think you're seeing as
small seeds like dust is the reflected light of the camera flash.
The seed pic might not have loaded on your computer and isn't in a frame
like the other pics.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:30:37 -0000, "Philip"
wrote:

I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put
together a little photo page :

http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm

The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia
tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds
to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm
and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the
wind.

I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right
direction.

Many thanks

Phil


Hmmm?..........scratches head in vain. Going to the books.
Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:30:37 -0000, "Philip"
wrote:

I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put
together a little photo page :

http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm

The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia
tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds
to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm
and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the
wind.

I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right
direction.

Many thanks

Phil


Hmmm?..........scratches head in vain. Going to the books.
Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:30:37 -0000, "Philip"
wrote:

I pass this tree / shrub regularly. And I would like to learn more about
it. Like its name would be a good starting point. With that in mind, I put
together a little photo page :

http://www.esher.nildram.co.uk/philip/whattree.htm

The shape of the fruits and their arrangement made me think of Paulownia
tomentosa, but on reading it would seem that the Paulowinia has fluffy seeds
to be carried by the wind. While the seeds on 'my' tree are between 0.7cm
and 1.5cms long and up to 0.5 cm wide. So definately not dispersed by the
wind.

I look forward to hearing from anyone who can point me in the right
direction.

Many thanks

Phil


Hmmm?..........scratches head in vain. Going to the books.
Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

"Sacha" wrote in message
o.uk...
Charlie Pridham5/3/04 9:26




"Philip" wrote in message
. ..

Right up to the last pic I was certain its a Paulowinia tomentosum but
the
seed in the pods of these is fine almost dust like, there are however
more
than one species and I have only ever seen P. tomentosum. My money would
be
on one of these, especially as it does not seem as big a tree as I would
expect P. tomentosum to be at flowering size.
--

Charlie, I wonder if you did see the very last pic? The seeds are quite
large and there are only two to each pod. What I think you're seeing as
small seeds like dust is the reflected light of the camera flash.
The seed pic might not have loaded on your computer and isn't in a frame
like the other pics.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

My bad English (again!), I meant that the seeds of P tomentosum are small
fine, I agree the picture shows big seeds so it can not be P. tomentosum, I
was just wondering if the other species of Paulownia may have larger seeds.
The pods in the picture look so like Paulownia, I collect seed ever year,
sowed them last week. It never looks possible that such big seedlings can
appear so quickly from such fine seed! :~)

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Charlie Pridham5/3/04 5:32

snip
The pods in the picture look so like Paulownia, I collect seed ever year,
sowed them last week. It never looks possible that such big seedlings can
appear so quickly from such fine seed! :~)

--

Ray is convinced, like you and I are, that this is a Paulownia, the growth
habit, the bark, the seed pods all point to that but not to P. tomentosa.
What would be helpful is if the OP can let us know what the flowers are like
and how large the leaves are, if he's ever seen them. I've tried Googling
(though not extensively) for pics of Paulownia seeds and will try again
later.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote in message
o.uk...
Charlie Pridham5/3/04 5:32

snip
The pods in the picture look so like Paulownia, I collect seed ever
year,
sowed them last week. It never looks possible that such big seedlings
can
appear so quickly from such fine seed! :~)

--

Ray is convinced, like you and I are, that this is a Paulownia, the growth
habit, the bark, the seed pods all point to that but not to P. tomentosa.
What would be helpful is if the OP can let us know what the flowers are
like
and how large the leaves are, if he's ever seen them. I've tried Googling
(though not extensively) for pics of Paulownia seeds and will try again
later.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

There are 6 species listed in the current plant finder (including
tomentosum) but I don't know anything about them! So I will be interested in
anything you discover.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

"Sacha" wrote in message
o.uk...
Charlie Pridham5/3/04 5:32

snip
The pods in the picture look so like Paulownia, I collect seed ever
year,
sowed them last week. It never looks possible that such big seedlings
can
appear so quickly from such fine seed! :~)

--

Ray is convinced, like you and I are, that this is a Paulownia, the growth
habit, the bark, the seed pods all point to that but not to P. tomentosa.
What would be helpful is if the OP can let us know what the flowers are
like
and how large the leaves are, if he's ever seen them. I've tried Googling
(though not extensively) for pics of Paulownia seeds and will try again
later.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

There are 6 species listed in the current plant finder (including
tomentosum) but I don't know anything about them! So I will be interested in
anything you discover.

--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collection of Clematis viticella (cvs)

Many thanks for all contributions.

I just tried breaking one of the 'seed' things in half and it is brittle and
dark brown all the way through. In short it does not look like there is
much life in it.

This tree is in a pot and is located in Central London and would have been
baked by last summers weather. I am wondering if this is in fact a
Paulowinia but one which produced seed pods with no seeds in. Maybe it
produced infertile seed pods because of the heat and drought conditions it
experienced last summer.

Phil

Many thanks for all contributions.

I just tried breaking one of the 'seed' things in half and it is brittle and
dark brown all the way through. In short it does not look like there is
much life in it.

This tree is in a pot and is located in Central London and would have been
baked by last summers weather. I am wondering if this is in fact a
Paulowinia but one which produced seed pods with no seeds in. Maybe it
produced infertile seed pods because of the heat and drought conditions it
experienced last summer.

Phil

Philip6/3/04 8:06
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Many thanks for all contributions.

I just tried breaking one of the 'seed' things in half and it is brittle and
dark brown all the way through. In short it does not look like there is
much life in it.

This tree is in a pot and is located in Central London and would have been
baked by last summers weather. I am wondering if this is in fact a
Paulowinia but one which produced seed pods with no seeds in. Maybe it
produced infertile seed pods because of the heat and drought conditions it
experienced last summer.

Phil


If it's not a Paulownia, I'm going to be fascinated to find out what it is.
If and when you see leaves and flowers, do let us know what they look like.
I've emailed an American techno site asking if they'll be kind enough to
take a look and give an opinion. All these places are always so busy that
I'm not holding my breath but maybe, just maybe........
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)