I pulled up my tomato plants yesterday (growing outside) as blight hit
them with a vengeance, taking only a couple of days to spread. The
interesting thing is that this blight hadn't read the books stating that
it is supposed to spread most readily in warm and humid weather. Or,
again, is that correct? Wikipedia says it is favoured by cool, moist
environments: "The pathogen is favored by moist, cool environments:
sporulation is optimal at 12–18 °C in water-saturated or nearly
saturated environments, and zoospore production is favored at
temperatures below 15 °C. Lesion growth rates are typically optimal at a
slightly warmer temperature range of 20 to 24 °C". But I guess it
depends on what you think is "cool".

Down here in south central Hampshire it has been a bit warmer the past
few days (around 20 - 21 deg C or so), but it has also been very dry,
with no rain for at least a fortnight, and precious little for a few
months before that. At the time of posting this, RH is apparently 45/
55% outside (depending on which humidity meter you believe).

So have the books got it wrong? Is it all down to luck and wind
direction? Out of interest, Phytophthora infestans is always associated
with potatoes and tomatoes, but does it have much effect on other,
particularly solanaceous, plants? There is some very limited information
he
https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/40970#tohostsOrSpeciesAffected, but
that's all I've been able to find (and I don't have access to the
reference quoted).

--

Jeff

On 18 Sep 2019 16:18, Jeff Layman wrote:
I pulled up my tomato plants yesterday (growing outside) as blight hit
them with a vengeance, taking only a couple of days to spread. The
interesting thing is that this blight hadn't read the books stating that
it is supposed to spread most readily in warm and humid weather. Or,
again, is that correct? Wikipedia says it is favoured by cool, moist
environments: "The pathogen is favored by moist, cool environments:
sporulation is optimal at 12-18 °C in water-saturated or nearly
saturated environments, and zoospore production is favored at
temperatures below 15 °C. Lesion growth rates are typically optimal at a
slightly warmer temperature range of 20 to 24 °C". But I guess it
depends on what you think is "cool".

Down here in south central Hampshire it has been a bit warmer the past
few days (around 20 - 21 deg C or so), but it has also been very dry,
with no rain for at least a fortnight, and precious little for a few
months before that. At the time of posting this, RH is apparently 45/
55% outside (depending on which humidity meter you believe).

So have the books got it wrong? Is it all down to luck and wind
direction? Out of interest, Phytophthora infestans is always associated
with potatoes and tomatoes, but does it have much effect on other,
particularly solanaceous, plants? There is some very limited information
he
https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/40970#tohostsOrSpeciesAffected, but
that's all I've been able to find (and I don't have access to the
reference quoted).

We have had some heavy dews over the last week or so, could that be it
coupled with the cooler nights.
I sprayed mine with Bordeaux Mixture and not had any rain to wash it
off.
--
Regards
Bob Hobden

On 18/09/19 18:18, Bob Hobden wrote:
On 18 Sep 2019 16:18, Jeff Layman wrote:
I pulled up my tomato plants yesterday (growing outside) as blight hit
them with a vengeance, taking only a couple of days to spread. The
interesting thing is that this blight hadn't read the books stating that
it is supposed to spread most readily in warm and humid weather. Or,
again, is that correct? Wikipedia says it is favoured by cool, moist
environments: "The pathogen is favored by moist, cool environments:
sporulation is optimal at 12-18 °C in water-saturated or nearly
saturated environments, and zoospore production is favored at
temperatures below 15 °C. Lesion growth rates are typically optimal at a
slightly warmer temperature range of 20 to 24 °C". But I guess it
depends on what you think is "cool".

Down here in south central Hampshire it has been a bit warmer the past
few days (around 20 - 21 deg C or so), but it has also been very dry,
with no rain for at least a fortnight, and precious little for a few
months before that. At the time of posting this, RH is apparently 45/
55% outside (depending on which humidity meter you believe).

So have the books got it wrong? Is it all down to luck and wind
direction? Out of interest, Phytophthora infestans is always associated
with potatoes and tomatoes, but does it have much effect on other,
particularly solanaceous, plants? There is some very limited information
he
https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/40970#tohostsOrSpeciesAffected, but
that's all I've been able to find (and I don't have access to the
reference quoted).

We have had some heavy dews over the last week or so, could that be it
coupled with the cooler nights.
I sprayed mine with Bordeaux Mixture and not had any rain to wash it
off.

Having read several sources reporting the most suitable conditions for
blight to spread, I really am not sure what they are! I guess it also
depends somewhat on the condition of the plants, if they are stressed I
would expect them to be more susceptible.

I'm not a vegetable grower anyway. These were half-a-dozen plants left
over from a charity plant sale I was helping with. I grew them in my
compost (box about 120cm square) as at least they had a source of food
and I didn't have to water every day. The plants will now add to the
compost as they rot down - I have no intention of growing any tomatoes
or potatoes again, and the compost will eventually be spread on the
garden as a mulch. From the little I've been able to find, blight is not
a concern here for plants other than tomatoes and potatoes.

--

Jeff

In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:

Out of interest, Phytophthora infestans is always associated
with potatoes and tomatoes, but does it have much effect on other,
particularly solanaceous, plants? There is some very limited information
he
https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/40970#tohostsOrSpeciesAffected, but
that's all I've been able to find (and I don't have access to the
reference quoted).

I am pretty sure that it is restricted to genus Solanum, but don't know
if it can affect any of our native species or whether they can act as
hosts. I have certainly not seen it on S. dulcamara and can't swear
to having seen it (ot nor having seen it) on S. nigrum.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 19/09/2019 09:01, Nick Maclaren wrote:
In article ,
Jeff Layman wrote:

Out of interest, Phytophthora infestans is always associated
with potatoes and tomatoes, but does it have much effect on other,
particularly solanaceous, plants? There is some very limited information
he
https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/40970#tohostsOrSpeciesAffected, but
that's all I've been able to find (and I don't have access to the
reference quoted).

I am pretty sure that it is restricted to genus Solanum, but don't know
if it can affect any of our native species or whether they can act as
hosts. I have certainly not seen it on S. dulcamara and can't swear
to having seen it (ot nor having seen it) on S. nigrum.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Now I'm going to ask a couple of stupid questions.#When a plant catches
blight do the spors come from the ground or the air?
Would covering then with fleece have any deterant effect?

In article ,
David Hill wrote:

Now I'm going to ask a couple of stupid questions.#When a plant catches
blight do the spors come from the ground or the air?
Would covering then with fleece have any deterant effect?

Not stupid at all. The air. And I doubt it. Polythene does, hoever.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:18:37 +0100, Jeff Layman wrote:

I pulled up my tomato plants yesterday (growing outside) as blight hit
them with a vengeance, taking only a couple of days to spread. The
interesting thing is that this blight hadn't read the books stating that
it is supposed to spread most readily in warm and humid weather. Or,
again, is that correct? Wikipedia says it is favoured by cool, moist
environments: "The pathogen is favored by moist, cool environments:
sporulation is optimal at 12–18 °C in water-saturated or nearly
saturated environments, and zoospore production is favored at
temperatures below 15 °C. Lesion growth rates are typically optimal at a
slightly warmer temperature range of 20 to 24 °C". But I guess it
depends on what you think is "cool".

Down here in south central Hampshire it has been a bit warmer the past
few days (around 20 - 21 deg C or so), but it has also been very dry,
with no rain for at least a fortnight, and precious little for a few
months before that. At the time of posting this, RH is apparently 45/
55% outside (depending on which humidity meter you believe).

So have the books got it wrong? Is it all down to luck and wind
direction? Out of interest, Phytophthora infestans is always associated
with potatoes and tomatoes, but does it have much effect on other,
particularly solanaceous, plants? There is some very limited information
he
https://www.cabi.org/isc/datasheet/40970#tohostsOrSpeciesAffected, but
that's all I've been able to find (and I don't have access to the
reference quoted).

Try Googling "Hutton Period" and looking at the Bligh****ch web site.

I subscribed some years ago, and get alerts such as:

"A Hutton Period alert is in place today for at least one of your chosen
postcode area(s).

A 'Full' Hutton Period occurs when the following criteria are met on 2
consecutive days:-

Minimum air temperatures are at least 10°C
Relative Humidity is 90% or above for at least 6 hours
Please visit the website for full details of all affected areas.
"

This was 25th of August, however.

Cheers



Dave R


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