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Tasteless Tomatoes
This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our
allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:30:55 +0100, Bob Hobden wrote:
This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. In the greenhouse, they have an interesting, slightly smoky, taste just before they're fully ripe, but they do seem to get bland once they are ripe to the point of softness. They do seem to be a late-ripening variety. I've grown them for her indoors, who has a slight reaction to raw tomatoes. I had a lot of blossom end rot on one San Marzano plant, but not the other, they were in pots filled from different bags of compost. Adding a bit of slaked lime to the water managed to control it, after a fashion. Next year, the compost will be home made, including the local limy-clay soil. I grew the Indigo Rose for the second and last year, San Marzano plum tomatoes and Sweet Million cherry tomatoes for the first time. The Sweet Million have, and are, out cropping the others even with the small fruits. The San Marzano were later and tasteless until completely ripe, but going well now. The Indigo Rose have only been ripening over the last four weeks, but nit the single plant has collapsed under it's own weight because some idiot didn't tie it in properly... Mark Rand -- RTFM |
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On 19 Sep 2018 22:38, Mark Rand wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:30:55 +0100, Bob Hobden wrote: This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. In the greenhouse, they have an interesting, slightly smoky, taste just before they're fully ripe, but they do seem to get bland once they are ripe to the point of softness. They do seem to be a late-ripening variety. I've grown them for her indoors, who has a slight reaction to raw tomatoes. I had a lot of blossom end rot on one San Marzano plant, but not the other, they were in pots filled from different bags of compost. Adding a bit of slaked lime to the water managed to control it, after a fashion. Next year, the compost will be home made, including the local limy-clay soil. I grew the Indigo Rose for the second and last year, San Marzano plum tomatoes and Sweet Million cherry tomatoes for the first time. The Sweet Million have, and are, out cropping the others even with the small fruits. The San Marzano were later and tasteless until completely ripe, but going well now. The Indigo Rose have only been ripening over the last four weeks, but nit the single plant has collapsed under it's own weight because some idiot didn't tie it in properly... Grown Ferline for years and it's a good doer producing decent large tomatoes with some flavour also blight resistant which helps when outdoor growing. . Also grown Old Brooks and will be using them for cooking, first time tomorrow. They have not suffered with Blossom End Rot despite being next to IR and are very large fruit. Our favourite tomato was Brigade but T & M took it off the market both here and the USA and we can no longer get the seed. Normal sized fruit with a good flavour, deep red flesh and solid, excellent for sandwiches and cooking. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:30:55 +0100, Bob Hobden wrote:
This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. I usually grow Sungold tomatoes which are excellent apart from the skins being slightly tough. I usually feed them with Tomorite. A friend has suggested watering with Epsom Salts (Magnesium Sulphate) once a week. Any views? |
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On 20 Sep 2018 12:53, Judith in England wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:30:55 +0100, Bob Hobden wrote: This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. I usually grow Sungold tomatoes which are excellent apart from the skins being slightly tough. I usually feed them with Tomorite. A friend has suggested watering with Epsom Salts (Magnesium Sulphate) once a week. Any views? We like to also use our Tomatoes for cooking, not sure a yellow fruit would make a nice looking sauce. But I have heard they are tasty. The Old Brooks did make a superb sauce tonight so will give that one another go. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:10:31 +0100, Bob Hobden
wrote: We like to also use our Tomatoes for cooking, not sure a yellow fruit would make a nice looking sauce. But I have heard they are tasty. SWMBO really likes sauce made from "Golden Jubilee;" good flavor and a little sweeter/lower acid than San Marzano. BTW, I read here about "Blaby Special" being rediscovered, and got seeds from the Seed Saver's Exchange (U.S. based but members worldwide). Don't know if they hated emigrating to colonial soil/weather, but insipid (like off-season tomatos from the market). Didn't grow them again. Semi-unrelated: If you really like a variety commercial seedsmen are dropping and it's not a hybrid, save the seeds. Dead easy. Cheers! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 20 Sep 2018 22:13, R. Daneel Olivaw wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 23:10:31 +0100, Bob Hobden wrote: We like to also use our Tomatoes for cooking, not sure a yellow fruit would make a nice looking sauce. But I have heard they are tasty. SWMBO really likes sauce made from "Golden Jubilee;" good flavor and a little sweeter/lower acid than San Marzano. BTW, I read here about "Blaby Special" being rediscovered, and got seeds from the Seed Saver's Exchange (U.S. based but members worldwide). Don't know if they hated emigrating to colonial soil/weather, but insipid (like off-season tomatos from the market). Didn't grow them again. Semi-unrelated: If you really like a variety commercial seedsmen are dropping and it's not a hybrid, save the seeds. Dead easy. Only problem was that Brigade was an F1 so won't come true from saved seed. Besides the fact we grow more than one variety so cross pollination is a distinct possibility. -- Regards Bob Hobden |
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Tasteless Tomatoes
On 19/09/2018 17:30, Bob Hobden wrote:
This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. Similar here, despite daily watering my plum tomatoes got blossom end rot, the ones that didn't haven't ripened. However my cherry tomatoes, "black cherry" haven been a huge success. Two out of three plants anyway. I wouldn't necessarily blame your Indigo Rose. It's been a very hot summer, unusual. I'd try them again next year. |
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 17:40:37 +0100, Bob Hobden
wrote: Only problem was that Brigade was an F1 so won't come true from saved seed. Besides the fact we grow more than one variety so cross pollination is a distinct possibility. Oops! As for crossing, tomato flowers are mostly self-fertile, so you don't need a lot of separation to avoid crossing. I understand the potato-leaved types (mostly older heirloom) have more exposed flower parts and are more likely to cross. I seem to do OK with 4 or more meters of spacing; at least after several genrations, new plants look like their parents. I take pictures, mostly so buyers at our garden club's annual spring plant sale know what to expect. (and sorry about the different .sig; it's just me, increasingly non-anon). --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Tasteless Tomatoes
On 19/09/2018 17:30, Bob Hobden wrote:
This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. I think it's due to the extreme hot weather we had. I watered my tomatoes very carefully and still got blossom end rot. |
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 20:20:07 +0100, Tina wrote:
On 19/09/2018 17:30, Bob Hobden wrote: This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. I think it's due to the extreme hot weather we had. I watered my tomatoes very carefully and still got blossom end rot. I've actually saved seeds from mine this year. Mostly because of poor germination from the commercial ones. I hope to get more successes from 50 seeds than I did from 6 :-). While doing some tidying up in the greenhouse today, I found a couple of Sweet Million cherry tomatoes that had come to rest in a puddle of water for a week or three. Darn things had about 20 seedlings sprouting out of each. Pity that Winter's coming on. Mark Rand |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:30:55 +0100, Bob Hobden wrote:
This year we grew, amongst others, some Indigo Rose tomatoes out on our allotment. What a waste of time and effort. Despite daily watering they suffered badly from Blossom End Rot, a bit of rain and then they started splitting, took ages to ripen too. Finally got to taste a decent one and just no taste at all certainly compared to Ferline. A failed experiment. Gave up on all but cherry tomatoes years ago because by the time they were producing the shops had a glut. This year I bought two Sungold Cherry tomatoes and potted them up on the veranda under cover to avoid blight (but South facing so loads of sun) and they are still going great guns. Potted up two offshoots and gave them to friends, and those are producing massively as well. The tomatoes are acid but sweet with loads more flavour than anything from the shops. They do tend to split on picking if you aren't careful, but they cook well if you can't eat them all the same day. Growing lots of small tomatoes which fruit over an extended period means that a short term blip in the weather has minimal effect, whereas it can ruin a crop of large tomatoes where you grow a limited number of fruit. Hopefully we will grow them again next year. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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