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Ferrous Sulphate query
I am planning to buy ferrous sulphate heptahydrate crystals to treat moss on
a lawn. I've not used this in pure chemical form previously having relied on proprietary brands which are more costly. So does anyone know he correct rate of dilution for this form of of ferrous sulphate as I will be spraying the moss with it? |
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Ferrous Sulphate query
"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:00:07 +0100, "Frank Booth" wrote: I am planning to buy ferrous sulphate heptahydrate crystals to treat moss on a lawn. I've not used this in pure chemical form previously having relied on proprietary brands which are more costly. So does anyone know he correct rate of dilution for this form of of ferrous sulphate as I will be spraying the moss with it? Proprietary brands are also the heptahydrate; it's the commonest form that ferrous sulphate comes in and I can't believe they'd go to the trouble of selling any of the rarer forms, unless by proprietary you're meaning lawn sand, or a combined feed and moss killer. The pure stuff will be a pale blue-green, but the proprietary stuff is usually a bit orange due to oxidation, especially if it's got damp. Use the same dilution as the proprietary stuff. See this http://tinyurl.com/otrsq9q and in particular: Iron Sulphate Properties At room temperature Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate appears as a blue/green crystalline solid. Dehydration happens at 70oC and complete decomposition happens at 400oC. Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate dissolves in water and the molecular formula for Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate is FeSO4.7H2O. Applications for Iron Sulphate Moss Killer / Control - Iron (II) Sulphate is very effective at controlling moss on your lawn. To use, apply 5-10g of solid crystals direct to each 1m2 of Lawn. Only apply solid product when its raining or about to rain; if not dissolve 5-10g in 1 litre of water and apply. Hi, I visited the Intralabs website before I posted as I will be buying FeS04.7H20 from them. And they suggest the rate you mentioned. But go to other websites and they recommend a much stronger solution than that for the same product for killing moss, eg 1.4 kg to 15 L water (to treat 500sq m.)which is over 90 gm/litre, about 9 times the top rate of concentraion suggested by Intralabs. So I'm still confused. http://www.thelawnshop.co.uk/online-...s-24/soluble-s ulphate-of-iron-for-moss-control-12-detail |
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Ferrous Sulphate query
On 23/10/2015 20:08, Frank Booth wrote:
"Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:00:07 +0100, "Frank Booth" wrote: I am planning to buy ferrous sulphate heptahydrate crystals to treat moss on a lawn. I've not used this in pure chemical form previously having relied on proprietary brands which are more costly. So does anyone know he correct rate of dilution for this form of of ferrous sulphate as I will be spraying the moss with it? Proprietary brands are also the heptahydrate; it's the commonest form that ferrous sulphate comes in and I can't believe they'd go to the trouble of selling any of the rarer forms, unless by proprietary you're meaning lawn sand, or a combined feed and moss killer. The pure stuff will be a pale blue-green, but the proprietary stuff is usually a bit orange due to oxidation, especially if it's got damp. Use the same dilution as the proprietary stuff. See this http://tinyurl.com/otrsq9q and in particular: Iron Sulphate Properties At room temperature Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate appears as a blue/green crystalline solid. Dehydration happens at 70oC and complete decomposition happens at 400oC. Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate dissolves in water and the molecular formula for Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate is FeSO4.7H2O. Applications for Iron Sulphate Moss Killer / Control - Iron (II) Sulphate is very effective at controlling moss on your lawn. To use, apply 5-10g of solid crystals direct to each 1m2 of Lawn. Only apply solid product when its raining or about to rain; if not dissolve 5-10g in 1 litre of water and apply. Hi, I visited the Intralabs website before I posted as I will be buying FeS04.7H20 from them. And they suggest the rate you mentioned. But go to other websites and they recommend a much stronger solution than that for the same product for killing moss, eg 1.4 kg to 15 L water (to treat 500sq m.)which is over 90 gm/litre, about 9 times the top rate of concentraion suggested by Intralabs. So I'm still confused. http://www.thelawnshop.co.uk/online-...s-24/soluble-s ulphate-of-iron-for-moss-control-12-detail I have used this effectively for a number of years. The moss turns black within minutes. You could use a mix with a similar quantity of Sulphate of ammonia added to sct as a 'green up' fertiliser Malcolm |
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Ferrous Sulphate query
On 23/10/2015 21:38, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:08:18 +0100, "Frank Booth" wrote: "Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:00:07 +0100, "Frank Booth" wrote: I am planning to buy ferrous sulphate heptahydrate crystals to treat moss on a lawn. I've not used this in pure chemical form previously having relied on proprietary brands which are more costly. So does anyone know he correct rate of dilution for this form of of ferrous sulphate as I will be spraying the moss with it? Proprietary brands are also the heptahydrate; it's the commonest form that ferrous sulphate comes in and I can't believe they'd go to the trouble of selling any of the rarer forms, unless by proprietary you're meaning lawn sand, or a combined feed and moss killer. The pure stuff will be a pale blue-green, but the proprietary stuff is usually a bit orange due to oxidation, especially if it's got damp. Use the same dilution as the proprietary stuff. See this http://tinyurl.com/otrsq9q and in particular: Iron Sulphate Properties At room temperature Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate appears as a blue/green crystalline solid. Dehydration happens at 70oC and complete decomposition happens at 400oC. Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate dissolves in water and the molecular formula for Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate is FeSO4.7H2O. Applications for Iron Sulphate Moss Killer / Control - Iron (II) Sulphate is very effective at controlling moss on your lawn. To use, apply 5-10g of solid crystals direct to each 1m2 of Lawn. Only apply solid product when its raining or about to rain; if not dissolve 5-10g in 1 litre of water and apply. Hi, I visited the Intralabs website before I posted as I will be buying FeS04.7H20 from them. And they suggest the rate you mentioned. But go to other websites and they recommend a much stronger solution than that for the same product for killing moss, eg 1.4 kg to 15 L water (to treat 500sq m.)which is over 90 gm/litre, about 9 times the top rate of concentraion suggested by Intralabs. So I'm still confused. http://www.thelawnshop.co.uk/online-...s-24/soluble-s ulphate-of-iron-for-moss-control-12-detail I suspect it's not so much the concentration in water as the area you need to spread it over that matters. Several sites talk about spreading it dry, when the concentration is effectively infinite, although it's a bit meaningless to talk in those terms. Lawnshop says 1.4 kg in 15 L has to be applied to 500 sq.m. , i.e. 2.8g per sq.m. whereas Intralabs say 5-10g per sq.m. which is several times higher. Lawnsmith says '500 grams per 100 square metres in at least 5 and preferably 10 litres of water'. http://tinyurl.com/q5b492g i.e. 5g per sq.m., rather higher than Lawnshop, and at a concentration of at least the equivalent of 1.5 kg in 15 litres, similar to Lawnshop. Taking all three recommendations together, and the fact that dry application is also recommended, I would conclude that it's not critical. But if you're worried, go for the lower rate per unit area, and at the lower concentration, i.e. 500 grams in 10 litres (as per Lawnsmith preferable), applied at a rate of about 3g per sq.m. (as approximately per Lawnshop rate), or 600 ml of that solution per 10 sq.m. E&OE :-) I have used a somewhat empirical treatment of about a hadful of sulphate of iron and the same quantity of sulphaste of ammonia over about 2 sq m of lawn. My experience suggests that the concentration applied is not critical. Malcolm |
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Ferrous Sulphate query
"Malcolm Race" wrote in message ... On 23/10/2015 20:08, Frank Booth wrote: "Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:00:07 +0100, "Frank Booth" wrote: I am planning to buy ferrous sulphate heptahydrate crystals to treat moss on a lawn. I've not used this in pure chemical form previously having relied on proprietary brands which are more costly. So does anyone know he correct rate of dilution for this form of of ferrous sulphate as I will be spraying the moss with it? Proprietary brands are also the heptahydrate; it's the commonest form that ferrous sulphate comes in and I can't believe they'd go to the trouble of selling any of the rarer forms, unless by proprietary you're meaning lawn sand, or a combined feed and moss killer. The pure stuff will be a pale blue-green, but the proprietary stuff is usually a bit orange due to oxidation, especially if it's got damp. Use the same dilution as the proprietary stuff. See this http://tinyurl.com/otrsq9q and in particular: Iron Sulphate Properties At room temperature Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate appears as a blue/green crystalline solid. Dehydration happens at 70oC and complete decomposition happens at 400oC. Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate dissolves in water and the molecular formula for Iron (II) Sulphate Heptahydrate is FeSO4.7H2O. Applications for Iron Sulphate Moss Killer / Control - Iron (II) Sulphate is very effective at controlling moss on your lawn. To use, apply 5-10g of solid crystals direct to each 1m2 of Lawn. Only apply solid product when its raining or about to rain; if not dissolve 5-10g in 1 litre of water and apply. Hi, I visited the Intralabs website before I posted as I will be buying FeS04.7H20 from them. And they suggest the rate you mentioned. But go to other websites and they recommend a much stronger solution than that for the same product for killing moss, eg 1.4 kg to 15 L water (to treat 500sq m.)which is over 90 gm/litre, about 9 times the top rate of concentraion suggested by Intralabs. So I'm still confused. http://www.thelawnshop.co.uk/online-...s-24/soluble-s ulphate-of-iron-for-moss-control-12-detail I have used this effectively for a number of years. The moss turns black within minutes. You could use a mix with a similar quantity of Sulphate of ammonia added to sct as a 'green up' fertiliser Thanks. I know this stuff works ok. Just need to know the correct dilution rate as I don't want to kill the grass either. |
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Ferrous Sulphate query
On 23/10/2015 20:24, Malcolm Race wrote:
On 23/10/2015 20:08, Frank Booth wrote: "Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 18:00:07 +0100, "Frank Booth" wrote: Applications for Iron Sulphate Moss Killer / Control - Iron (II) Sulphate is very effective at controlling moss on your lawn. To use, apply 5-10g of solid crystals direct to each 1m2 of Lawn. Only apply solid product when its raining or about to rain; if not dissolve 5-10g in 1 litre of water and apply. Hi, I visited the Intralabs website before I posted as I will be buying FeS04.7H20 from them. And they suggest the rate you mentioned. But go to other websites and they recommend a much stronger solution than that for the same product for killing moss, eg 1.4 kg to 15 L water (to treat 500sq m.)which is over 90 gm/litre, about 9 times the top rate of concentraion suggested by Intralabs. So I'm still confused. http://www.thelawnshop.co.uk/online-...s-24/soluble-s ulphate-of-iron-for-moss-control-12-detail The range of concentrations where it works is fairly wide. You see a more rapid effect with higher concentrations but it is wasteful and you can get away with less and a bit of patience. Be aware that any spillage onto paths will result in permanent rusty stains. You will scorch the grass if you dose it too hard - same with lawn sand which is the way I use it. I have used this effectively for a number of years. The moss turns black within minutes. You could use a mix with a similar quantity of Sulphate of ammonia added to sct as a 'green up' fertiliser Malcolm Although it is best applied in the spring. The fertiliser component will wash away ineffectively during the wet winter months. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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