Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees, for
good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even in the
cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've extracted about
20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas would
be welcome.

On 2014-09-09 22:03:26 +0000, Bertie Doe said:

Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees,
for good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even in
the cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've
extracted about 20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas
would be welcome.

Ours pop up all over the place and barely a day in the year goes by
without one in flower somewhere. But we have a clump that has put
itself into a pot near the door which is full of compost, as well as
some in nooks in walls, flower beds etc. So why not try a variety of
places with yours? Try raising some in coarse, free-draining compost,
some in a stony area of the garden and some in ordinary compost to see
which will get going. But plants do have an infuriating habit of
making up their own minds.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Bertie Doe" wrote ...

Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees, for
good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even in the
cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've extracted
about 20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas would
be welcome.

I found a plant growing in my mothers garden (pre 1993), took seed,
scattered it in our front garden and the rest is history. They come up where
they want to, never in the sunny part of the garden but in the more shady
parts, sort of brighter fern like places. They have also jumped to our back
garden and now come up at the base of a West facing wall with the occasional
one elsewhere. Never a problem plant, just does it's own thing and the
bright yellow flowers light up a shady spot. Love them.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
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On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:03:26 +0100, "Bertie Doe"
wrote:

Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees, for
good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even in the
cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've extracted about
20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas would
be welcome.


I find yellow poppies to be quite invasive and pull them up whenever I
see them in the garden.

OTOH I can't get red poppies to grow at all!

Steve

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On 10/09/2014 11:39, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:20:59 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:03:26 +0100, "Bertie Doe"
wrote:

Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees, for
good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even in the
cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've extracted about
20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas would
be welcome.


I find yellow poppies to be quite invasive and pull them up whenever I
see them in the garden.

+1

Trouble is, they have quite deep root carrots.


Are you sure you don't have Chelidonium majus, greater celandine this
can be very invasive.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:14:45 +0100, David Hill
wrote:


Are you sure you don't have Chelidonium majus, greater celandine this
can be very invasive.

The ones I find invasive are definitely Meconopsis cambrica. My wife
actually bought some once by accident! I don't mind the orange
variety.

Steve

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"Chris Hogg" wrote ...

David Hill wrote:

Chris Hogg wrote:
Stephen Wolstenholme
wrote:

"Bertie Doe" wrote:

Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees,
for
good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even
in the
cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've extracted
about
20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas
would
be welcome.


I find yellow poppies to be quite invasive and pull them up whenever I
see them in the garden.

+1

Trouble is, they have quite deep root carrots.


Are you sure you don't have Chelidonium majus, greater celandine this
can be very invasive.

Oh no. Definitely Welsh poppies. These things:
http://tinyurl.com/n93ghnf
When I pull them, they invariably snap off at ground level, and sprout
again next year (or so I presume, but don't know for certain). I dig
'em out, to be sure.

How strange, they are not invasive with me or others I know that have them,
they just come up where they want to in ones and twos. Die off after
flowering and I can't say I've noticed them being perennial or clump
forming. Either it's the garden/position they are in or there are different
strains.


--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
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On 09/09/2014 23:03, Bertie Doe wrote:
Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees,
for good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Not quite - many poppy seeds have a complex trigger into growth rule
which often requires disturbed soil after a period of burial. They can
remain viable in damp ground for an astounding period of time. See light
again and they rapidly germinate. Hard to simulate artificially so you
tend to do better by letting nature do it all for you.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even in
the cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've
extracted about 20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas
would be welcome.

Throw on the ground somewhere where you want them and then forget about
them. I am very surprised that if your neighbour has them you don't too.

They grow slightly invasively on my rich but heavy clay soil. YMMV

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Thanks for all the advice guys and galls, I'll spread half the seed now and
the remaining 10g in say, early March.

Martin, it's difficult for seed to spread from neighbour's garden to mine.
It's enclosed by house, garage at far end and sides are 1m high breezeblock
walls. To make the garden cat-proof, I've topped the breezeblock walls with
T & G, so it's now 2m high :-
http://postimg.org/image/eorrrctgp/

OT most of you are familiar with the herb Comfrey (symphytum officianale)
For those who are not, it's the perfect plant for ground cover. It can grow
6' x 6' in good soil. Great for bees too. Each plant produces hundreds of
clusters of small bells from mid April to end of June. These 2 plants are 6'
and 5' high :-
http://postimg.org/image/aumvpdx61/

The plants are cut down to the ground (leaves etc high in potash). Within 3
weeks, the foliage regrows, not quite so tall at 5' and 4' respectively. No
more flowers but quite striking :-
http://postimg.org/image/k4ijwhb55/

History : 3 years ago in Spring, I decided to move the comfrey from the
allotment. I chopped it into 4 bits, planted 2 in the back garden (above)
and 2 in the front. The front garden soil is exhausted and each comfrey has
only grown say 2' x 2'.

On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 23:03:26 +0100, "Bertie Doe" wrote:

Never had any luck with these plants. Poppies produce plenty of sees, for
good reason. It takes a lot of 'em to produce one plant.

Next-door, has masses. They grow on fertile soil, poor soil and even in the
cracks in pavement. She gave me a potful of seed heads. I've extracted about
20g of seed.

Plenty to scatter now; scatter and/or propagate in Spring. Any ideas would
be welcome.



They can turn out to be a real nuisance. I would be careful what you wish upon
yourself.

On 10/09/2014 17:11, Bertie Doe wrote:

Thanks for all the advice guys and galls, I'll spread half the seed now
and the remaining 10g in say, early March.



The best way to start them off is with *really* fresh seed. I suspect
you'll be wasting that remaining 10g. Just scatter all the seed now. I
gave fresh seed to a friend who had failed with old seed and freshly
pulled up growing plants. After scattering fresh seed from my plants,
she now has her beloved yellow/orange poppies.

By-the-way, I lifted a mature plant this summer (it had a long 'carroty'
tap root) and potted it up. I kept it well watered, but it
wilted/collapsed a couple of times. I persisted with the watering and
it perked up well each time. After a few weeks, it started putting out
strong, new growth. I cut away the old growth. After a few more weeks
it made buds, then flowers.

Although Mecanopsis cambrica is reputed to dislike transplanting, this
would seem to prove that with a good root and thorough aftercare, it can
be managed.

Martin, it's difficult for seed to spread from neighbour's garden to
mine. It's enclosed by house, garage at far end and sides are 1m high
breezeblock walls. To make the garden cat-proof, I've topped the
breezeblock walls with T & G, so it's now 2m high :-
http://postimg.org/image/eorrrctgp/

OT most of you are familiar with the herb Comfrey (symphytum
officianale) For those who are not, it's the perfect plant for ground
cover. It can grow 6' x 6' in good soil. Great for bees too. Each plant
produces hundreds of clusters of small bells from mid April to end of
June. These 2 plants are 6' and 5' high :-
http://postimg.org/image/aumvpdx61/

The plants are cut down to the ground (leaves etc high in potash).
Within 3 weeks, the foliage regrows, not quite so tall at 5' and 4'
respectively. No more flowers but quite striking :-
http://postimg.org/image/k4ijwhb55/

History : 3 years ago in Spring, I decided to move the comfrey from the
allotment. I chopped it into 4 bits, planted 2 in the back garden
(above) and 2 in the front. The front garden soil is exhausted and each
comfrey has only grown say 2' x 2'.








--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

"Spider" wrote in message ...

On 10/09/2014 17:11, Bertie Doe wrote:

Thanks for all the advice guys and galls, I'll spread half the seed now
and the remaining 10g in say, early March.



The best way to start them off is with *really* fresh seed. I suspect
you'll be wasting that remaining 10g. Just scatter all the seed now. I
gave fresh seed to a friend who had failed with old seed and freshly
pulled up growing plants. After scattering fresh seed from my plants,
she now has her beloved yellow/orange poppies.

Thanks Spider I'll plant the remaining 10g.