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On 01/09/2014 17:24, Ophelia wrote:


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On 2014-09-01 11:43:44 +0000, Ophelia said:

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The only things I tie up are my climbers. Roses, clematis,
honeysuckle
and a broad leaf ivy. I can't remember its name



Could the ivy be Hedera colchica, or a cultivar of same?

I don't know but I will take a photo for you. It has a large
leaf, not
at all like the smaller leaved ones I have in other places.

Here is a pic of my ivy.

http://tinypic.com/m/i6xuvq/3

Paddy's Pride? We have it on a wall of the house and it's a large leaf
variety.

I will take your word for it. I have no idea!




Well, Hedera 'Paddy's Pride' is another name for Hedera colchica
'Sulphur Heart', and it certainly looks like yours. So I can be
pleased I got the colchica bit, and Sacha can be pleased she got the
cultivar. Under the name of 'Sulphur Heart', it is very widely
available which increases the likelihood.

Probably) Does it require any special attention or is it easy to
take care of. It seems to have done ok left to its own devices so
far)




I thought I'd read that H.colchica types were less hardy than our H.
helix. However, if yours is thriving in Scotland, then you can just sit
back and enjoy it. If you get a hard winter and it is damaged, simply cut
out the damage. I think that's all you need do.

Thanks, Spider! I have some ivy which grow up my shed Very small leaf.
I could take a pic but I think I have overloaded you with pics by now

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Ophelia wrote:

This can be worth doing when the plants are beyond any hope of
normal pruning! The reason for stressing that the plants are
fully deciduous is that many evergreen plants rely on their existing
leaves to fuel new shoots - ones like holly and yew will recover
from having all leaves removed, but will often be set back by a
year or so.

Right! I don't think I would have the courage to denude any plant. Btw
why
would you want to remove all the leaves?

Because you need to cut out all leaf-bearing branches!

Ahh. I thought you meant remove all the leaves! )


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The only things I tie up are my climbers. Roses, clematis,
honeysuckle
and a broad leaf ivy. I can't remember its name



Could the ivy be Hedera colchica, or a cultivar of same?

I don't know but I will take a photo for you. It has a large
leaf, not
at all like the smaller leaved ones I have in other places.

Here is a pic of my ivy.

http://tinypic.com/m/i6xuvq/3

Paddy's Pride? We have it on a wall of the house and it's a large
leaf
variety.

I will take your word for it. I have no idea!




Well, Hedera 'Paddy's Pride' is another name for Hedera colchica
'Sulphur Heart', and it certainly looks like yours. So I can be
pleased I got the colchica bit, and Sacha can be pleased she got the
cultivar. Under the name of 'Sulphur Heart', it is very widely
available which increases the likelihood.

Probably) Does it require any special attention or is it easy to
take care of. It seems to have done ok left to its own devices so
far)




I thought I'd read that H.colchica types were less hardy than our H.
helix. However, if yours is thriving in Scotland, then you can just sit
back and enjoy it. If you get a hard winter and it is damaged, simply
cut
out the damage. I think that's all you need do.

Thanks, Spider! I have some ivy which grow up my shed Very small leaf.
I could take a pic but I think I have overloaded you with pics by now




I have not the smallest objection to looking at your ivy pic, or indeed,
any other pic but simply may not recognise it. Go on .. have a go!
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gardening on heavy clay

On 01/09/2014 23:21, Ophelia wrote:


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Bulbs

But you're loving every minute of it, I bet :~). Hope you've left
enough time to plant some bulbs for spring;~).

??? I hadn't even thought about those!!! Do I still have time???

You certainly do! You can tulips off for a bit, but you could be
planting
lots of other lovely gems. Time for a visit to the garden centre, me
thinks!

Yes? Then I shall have a trip there in Sunday)) I do love daffodils!
Will I be in time?



Yes, indeed. Just grab 'em and bung 'em in! If your soil is on the
heavy side, buy a bag of sharp sand or grit to work into the bottom of
the planting hole to improve drainage.



Thanks, will do) Incidentally, I have seen 'growmore' in the pound
shops. Will that be the same stuff I see in garden centres?


It certainly should be, or it shouldn't carry the name. Have a look
on line so you know what n-p-k proper Growmore has, and compare
prices/sizes before you check out the local cheapie.

I will do that! Thank you err what is n-p-k please?



Sorry! It is Nitrogen-Phosphorous-Potassium. When you buy a plant
feed, look at the n-p-k ratio on the label. It will tell you the
proportion of each nutrient, so you can feed your plants correctly. In
spring, you may be looking for a more nitrogenous feed, so look for a
higher 'n'number. Later in the year, or when a plant is producing
flowers, you will need to look for a higher 'K' number. This is the
'high potash feed' that you will have seen recommended on urg whenever a
plant fails to flower or fruit as expected, but it is also used
regularly by many gardeners to keep their roses (and other flowers) and
tomatoes performing.
Nitrogen promotes leafy growth, Phosphorus encourages root development,
Potassium promotes flower and fruit production (it also helps to
ripen/harden off plant growth and help prepare it for winter).



I am looking forward to my next foray into your garden. Quite an
adventure and remarkably good for my brain. Thank you.

Noooo thank YOU!!! You are welcome into my garden any old time you
fancy ) In fact I welcome you with open arms !!!

Ophelia

Thank you, Ophelia:~). That's truly nice of you.

It would be even nicer for me if you actually turned up ... ;-) Gosh,
imagine me having all that knowledge under my roof!! heh you might get
no peace))


Neither would you ... I'd probably never stop, once started! :~)) Anyway,
I don't know everything. I have my weaknesses.

Well you are very knowledgeable and you have been very kind and generous
with your expertise and time.

You're more than welcome. I've enjoyed doing it.


Now it's time to discuss the 'undercut', so that you don't tear the
bark as your pruning cut reaches the lower side of the branch and the
weight of the part-severed branch suddenly accelerates the fall and
rips the bark as the limb descends.

Ahhhh!! yes, that makes sense! If the bark were ripped like that,
could it kill the tree? Could it not repair itself?


It could certainly be very damaging and, on a plum tree, it could let in
Silver Leaf and heaven knows what. I seem to think you had a torn
stub on
your plum tree. It had partly healed and partly died back, so you'll be
able to see what can happen following a bad cut. That stub needs your
attention since you're going to become an expert overnight ;~)!

Huh! Expert? Me? lol anyway I am not sure which stub you are referring
to. Oh dear, you have me worried now.



I can only guide you to it by looking at your first set of pics, so I'll
go back to that thread, have a look and post again from there.
I've added nothing below so you need not scroll down. I'll see you at
JD's original post.



Thank goodness for the link! That's not easy to explain, but I hope
I've managed to get it over all right. You may not need to do a lot
of that heavy duty pruning, but it's important to know how to do it
correctly. Once you know it, it's just common sense followed by
practice.



If I am allowed, I doubt you have heard the last from me ;-)

You are certainly allowed! It would be a pleasure to help if I can.

Thank you. That is most comforting)


Be well and enjoy your own garden Heh you might even get the time
now)))

I am already much better than I was, thank you. I shall enjoy doing a
spot of my own gardening, but I've got a couple of busy weeks coming up,
but then hope to get stuck in, not least planting lots and lots of
bulbs:~)).

Take care, Ophelia, and enjoy that book and your garden.

Thank you, I will



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Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

On 2014-09-01 14:10:39 +0000, Ophelia said:

"sacha" wrote in message
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On 2014-09-01 11:43:44 +0000, Ophelia said:

"Ophelia" wrote in message
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The only things I tie up are my climbers. Roses, clematis,
honeysuckle
and a broad leaf ivy. I can't remember its name



Could the ivy be Hedera colchica, or a cultivar of same?

I don't know but I will take a photo for you. It has a large leaf, not
at all like the smaller leaved ones I have in other places.

Here is a pic of my ivy.

http://tinypic.com/m/i6xuvq/3

Paddy's Pride? We have it on a wall of the house and it's a large leaf
variety.

I will take your word for it. I have no idea!

Looks a bit like it but there are so many ivies...
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South Devon

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On 01/09/2014 23:21, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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[pruned]

Bulbs

But you're loving every minute of it, I bet :~). Hope you've left
enough time to plant some bulbs for spring;~).

??? I hadn't even thought about those!!! Do I still have time???

You certainly do! You can tulips off for a bit, but you could be
planting
lots of other lovely gems. Time for a visit to the garden centre, me
thinks!

Yes? Then I shall have a trip there in Sunday)) I do love daffodils!
Will I be in time?



Yes, indeed. Just grab 'em and bung 'em in! If your soil is on the heavy
side, buy a bag of sharp sand or grit to work into the bottom of the
planting hole to improve drainage.

Thank you Will do) Gosh that will be a treat and liven things up in
the spring)



Thanks, will do) Incidentally, I have seen 'growmore' in the
pound
shops. Will that be the same stuff I see in garden centres?


It certainly should be, or it shouldn't carry the name. Have a look
on line so you know what n-p-k proper Growmore has, and compare
prices/sizes before you check out the local cheapie.

I will do that! Thank you err what is n-p-k please?



Sorry! It is Nitrogen-Phosphorous-Potassium. When you buy a plant feed,
look at the n-p-k ratio on the label. It will tell you the proportion of
each nutrient, so you can feed your plants correctly. In spring, you may
be looking for a more nitrogenous feed, so look for a higher 'n'number.
Later in the year, or when a plant is producing flowers, you will need to
look for a higher 'K' number. This is the 'high potash feed' that you
will have seen recommended on urg whenever a plant fails to flower or
fruit as expected, but it is also used regularly by many gardeners to keep
their roses (and other flowers) and tomatoes performing.
Nitrogen promotes leafy growth, Phosphorus encourages root development,
Potassium promotes flower and fruit production (it also helps to
ripen/harden off plant growth and help prepare it for winter).

Gosh, the technical stuff eh)) Thank you Good thing! I am saving your
posts to refer to)


I don't know everything. I have my weaknesses.

Well you are very knowledgeable and you have been very kind and generous
with your expertise and time.

Plum

You're more than welcome. I've enjoyed doing it.
It could certainly be very damaging and, on a plum tree, it could let in
Silver Leaf and heaven knows what. I seem to think you had a torn
stub on
your plum tree. It had partly healed and partly died back, so you'll be
able to see what can happen following a bad cut. That stub needs your
attention since you're going to become an expert overnight ;~)!

Huh! Expert? Me? lol anyway I am not sure which stub you are
referring
to. Oh dear, you have me worried now.



I can only guide you to it by looking at your first set of pics, so I'll
go back to that thread, have a look and post again from there.
I've added nothing below so you need not scroll down. I'll see you at
JD's original post.

Ok thanks. You will see I have reposted them because I clear pics out that
I think I have done with

Thank you, as always)

Best O

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I have not the smallest objection to looking at your ivy pic, or indeed,
any other pic but simply may not recognise it. Go on .. have a go!

Did you see it? If you can't I am more than happy to pop out and take
another)


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On 2014-09-01 14:10:39 +0000, Ophelia said:

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On 2014-09-01 11:43:44 +0000, Ophelia said:

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The only things I tie up are my climbers. Roses, clematis,
honeysuckle
and a broad leaf ivy. I can't remember its name



Could the ivy be Hedera colchica, or a cultivar of same?

I don't know but I will take a photo for you. It has a large leaf,
not
at all like the smaller leaved ones I have in other places.

Here is a pic of my ivy.

http://tinypic.com/m/i6xuvq/3

Paddy's Pride? We have it on a wall of the house and it's a large leaf
variety.

I will take your word for it. I have no idea!

Looks a bit like it but there are so many ivies...

Would I need to do anything different to them than I do the very small
ones?

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"Spider" wrote in message
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I have not the smallest objection to looking at your ivy pic, or indeed,
any other pic but simply may not recognise it. Go on .. have a go!

Did you see it? If you can't I am more than happy to pop out and take
another)

Oops are you referring to the small leaved ivy I mentioned???

Ok off to take a pic ...

http://tinypic.com/m/i6zbya/3

Best O


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On 02/09/2014 17:59, Ophelia wrote:


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I have not the smallest objection to looking at your ivy pic, or indeed,
any other pic but simply may not recognise it. Go on .. have a go!

Did you see it? If you can't I am more than happy to pop out and take
another)

Oops are you referring to the small leaved ivy I mentioned???

Ok off to take a pic ...

http://tinypic.com/m/i6zbya/3

Best O




It looks like Hedera 'Gold Heart' with some reversion, ie reverting
reverting to the plain green type.
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gardening on heavy clay

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I have not the smallest objection to looking at your ivy pic, or
indeed,
any other pic but simply may not recognise it. Go on .. have a go!

Did you see it? If you can't I am more than happy to pop out and take
another)

Oops are you referring to the small leaved ivy I mentioned???

Ok off to take a pic ...

http://tinypic.com/m/i6zbya/3

Best O




It looks like Hedera 'Gold Heart' with some reversion, ie reverting
reverting to the plain green type.

That sounds nice) Yes, it does have plain leaves and some with pretty
yellows. Does it need any special treatment?

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On 02/09/2014 21:06, Ophelia wrote:


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I have not the smallest objection to looking at your ivy pic, or
indeed,
any other pic but simply may not recognise it. Go on .. have a go!

Did you see it? If you can't I am more than happy to pop out and take
another)

Oops are you referring to the small leaved ivy I mentioned???

Ok off to take a pic ...

http://tinypic.com/m/i6zbya/3

Best O




It looks like Hedera 'Gold Heart' with some reversion, ie reverting
reverting to the plain green type.

That sounds nice) Yes, it does have plain leaves and some with pretty
yellows. Does it need any special treatment?




You can treat it just like any other ivy. However, if you choose to,
you could cut out all the reversion and keep just the Gold Heart leaves,
but you'd be at it forever! I gave up trying ages ago. I've had
H.'Gold Heart' in my garden for about 30yrs and it still produces both
types of leaf. The choice is yours.
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On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

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On 02/09/2014 21:06, Ophelia wrote:


"Spider" wrote in message
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On 02/09/2014 17:59, Ophelia wrote:


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"Spider" wrote in message
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I have not the smallest objection to looking at your ivy pic, or
indeed,
any other pic but simply may not recognise it. Go on .. have a go!

Did you see it? If you can't I am more than happy to pop out and take
another)

Oops are you referring to the small leaved ivy I mentioned???

Ok off to take a pic ...

http://tinypic.com/m/i6zbya/3

Best O




It looks like Hedera 'Gold Heart' with some reversion, ie reverting
reverting to the plain green type.

That sounds nice) Yes, it does have plain leaves and some with pretty
yellows. Does it need any special treatment?




You can treat it just like any other ivy. However, if you choose to, you
could cut out all the reversion and keep just the Gold Heart leaves, but
you'd be at it forever! I gave up trying ages ago. I've had H.'Gold
Heart' in my garden for about 30yrs and it still produces both types of
leaf. The choice is yours.

No, I am with you I never planted it and don't know where it came from.
I am happy enough with it as is It is doing well actually because I
hauled it all off when I painted the shed and it has gone back up again

Thanks for checking it out!

Best

O

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