On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
=============================================== ==

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
=============================================== ==

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

here?

--

..................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

--

On 06/08/2014 15:47, 'Mike' wrote:



"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
=================================================

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

here?


I wonder if Thunderbird might be a better bet. It's always worked fine
for me without any faffing around

Thanks Stuart, but I will leave it as it is at the moment. It's only on here
that people throw a wobbly, everywhere else no problem. But in any case I am
off to the studio soon as we go out live and I don't want any holdups, but
before that I have to download some photos I have taken in the last couple
of days of the Theatre for the Trust and another Radio Station's newssheet.

But thanks for you help.

Mike
..................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’


"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 15:47, 'Mike' wrote:



"David Rance" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
=================================================

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

here?


I wonder if Thunderbird might be a better bet. It's always worked fine
for me without any faffing around

In article ,
David Rance wrote:

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

Unfortunately, the dogmatic idiot who sneaked that into the RFC
on something else didn't have a clue about the wider world. In
addition to that, it needs a composing agent, a posting agent,
ALL transport agents, a receiving agent and a viewing agent, all
of which fail to distinguish lines of text from binary records
terminated by newlines.

Email has been a text medium since it was invented, and trailing
spaces have been regarded as insignificant (i.e. can be removed
or inserted at whim) in text files since time immemorial. In
particular, treating them as significant is not portable in any
program written in C, C++ or Fortran (and probably most other
languages, certainly any that rely on those for I/O).

It's not reliable, and never has been, not even in a purely
'Internet' context - and, when that RFC was perpetrated, the
majority of Email used at least one non-Internet agent. That
was probably true for Internet Email between different sites,
too, at the time!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

"stuart noble" wrote

'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote
stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?


Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice

In order to get WLM to work with Newsgroups you have to resort to
downloading two little programs, AutoHotkey and WlmQuotefix. Then you have
to remember to start them and "reload the script" before using them, not too
bad on our PC where it's turned on first thing and off last thing as I only
have to do it once a day but would be a total pain on a laptop or tablet.

http://www.dusko-lolic.from.hr/wlmquote/

Finally you have to remember to use them every time you post.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

I wonder if Thunderbird might be a better bet. It's always worked fine
for me without any faffing around



Who cares?

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:47:02 'Mike' wrote:

"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
================================================ =

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

here?

--

Well, it would have been except that you put another one .....

............................................... ..
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

.... just here. So the first one isn't treated as a separator. But I'm
using Turnpike which, when one replies to a message, doesn't quote the
text below the sig separator.

And that's why some of us can't reply to your messages easily because,
when you reply below the sig separator, your reply disappears.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:47:02 'Mike' wrote:

"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
================================================ =

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

here?

--

Well, it would have been except that you put another one .....

............................................... ..
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

.... just here. So the first one isn't treated as a separator. But I'm
using Turnpike which, when one replies to a message, doesn't quote the
text below the sig separator.

And that's why some of us can't reply to your messages easily because,
when you reply below the sig separator, your reply disappears.

David
=====================================

so if I reply in here it should be OK?

Mike


..................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 13th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’
--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

In message , 'Mike'
writes
"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:47:02 'Mike' wrote:

"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
=============================================== ==

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

here?

--

Well, it would have been except that you put another one .....

................................................ .
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

... just here. So the first one isn't treated as a separator. But I'm
using Turnpike which, when one replies to a message, doesn't quote the
text below the sig separator.

And that's why some of us can't reply to your messages easily because,
when you reply below the sig separator, your reply disappears.

David
=====================================

so if I reply in here it should be OK?

Mike

Yes, except that you haven't put in a sig separator at all. But you left
my sig in with its separator!

Good game, this, innit? Winding up all those who try to help you! Don't
worry, I know you're trolling me. I'm just trying to see how much more
you can misunderstand my explanations! ;-)

David

--
David Rance writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

"David Rance" wrote in message
...

In message , 'Mike'
writes
"David Rance" wrote in message ...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:47:02 'Mike' wrote:

"David Rance" wrote in message
...

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 14:17:30 'Mike' wrote:

"stuart noble" wrote in message ...

On 06/08/2014 13:48, 'Mike' wrote:
"CT" wrote in message ...

stuart noble wrote:

Is there a good reason why Mike's replies form part of his signature?
Something's not working well. ISTR this has been raised before? Jolly
annoying anyway

No. Mike uses Windows Live Mail and doesn't know how, or can't be
bothered, to manually trim the .sig (including the '-- ' separator) of
the person to whom he's replying, so his reply is below their unsnipped
.sig.


Is this the way to do it?

Mike

.................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

Better, except your text ("Is this the way?") becomes part of the the
previous message (i.e. "No, Mike uses......."). If I knew anything about
Windows Live Mail, I'd offer advice
=============================================== ==

I had been putting a manual separator in like that. Is that better?

To be recognised by news- and mail-readers as such, the sig separator
must be on a separate line and consist of two hyphens, a space, and then
a carriage return.

David

here?

--

Well, it would have been except that you put another one .....

................................................ .
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 6th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’

... just here. So the first one isn't treated as a separator. But I'm
using Turnpike which, when one replies to a message, doesn't quote the
text below the sig separator.

And that's why some of us can't reply to your messages easily because,
when you reply below the sig separator, your reply disappears.

David
=====================================

so if I reply in here it should be OK?

Mike

Yes, except that you haven't put in a sig separator at all. But you left
my sig in with its separator!

Good game, this, innit? Winding up all those who try to help you! Don't
worry, I know you're trolling me. I'm just trying to see how much more
you can misunderstand my explanations! ;-)

David
------------------------------------------------

Is this better?

With your sig removed?

I will ignore the sarcasm.

Mike

..................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 13th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’--

In message , Chris Hogg
writes

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:09:34 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

Yes, except that you haven't put in a sig separator at all. But you left
my sig in with its separator!

Good game, this, innit? Winding up all those who try to help you! Don't
worry, I know you're trolling me. I'm just trying to see how much more
you can misunderstand my explanations! ;-)

Some of us don't see his posts at all!

Well, that's a good thing because you're not tempted to try to help him.
I thought I would try this time just to see if he's being deliberately
obtuse. Since my five-year-old grandson can understand it, I think I
have the answer!

And, no, that isn't sarcasm, Mike.

David

--
David Rance writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

Maybe you don't think it is, but you are all good for a laugh aren't you?

Mike

..................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 13th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’
"David Rance" wrote in message
...

In message , Chris Hogg
writes

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:09:34 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

Yes, except that you haven't put in a sig separator at all. But you left
my sig in with its separator!

Good game, this, innit? Winding up all those who try to help you! Don't
worry, I know you're trolling me. I'm just trying to see how much more
you can misunderstand my explanations! ;-)

Some of us don't see his posts at all!

Well, that's a good thing because you're not tempted to try to help him.
I thought I would try this time just to see if he's being deliberately
obtuse. Since my five-year-old grandson can understand it, I think I
have the answer!

And, no, that isn't sarcasm, Mike.

David

--
David Rance writing from Le Mesnil Villement, Calvados, France

On 08/08/2014 14:46, David Rance wrote:
In message , Chris Hogg
writes

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:09:34 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

Yes, except that you haven't put in a sig separator at all. But you left
my sig in with its separator!

Good game, this, innit? Winding up all those who try to help you! Don't
worry, I know you're trolling me. I'm just trying to see how much more
you can misunderstand my explanations! ;-)

Some of us don't see his posts at all!

Well, that's a good thing because you're not tempted to try to help him.
I thought I would try this time just to see if he's being deliberately
obtuse. Since my five-year-old grandson can understand it, I think I
have the answer!

And, no, that isn't sarcasm, Mike.

David


A bit harsh. Whatever Windows Live Mail is doing shouldn't even be
possible with half decent software. Your grandson maybe has a bright
future explaining it to Microsoft, who clearly don't understand it either!
I'd bite the bullet and switch to Thunderbird, which has worked
flawlessly here for many years

Yes Martin, and at least all of mine are charitable.

Kind regards

Mike

..................................................
For those ex Royal Navy.
http://angelradioisleofwight.moonfru...ive/4574468641
7.30 – 8.00 pm Wednesday 13th August 2014
‘From the Crowe’s Nest’





"Martin" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 09:55:40 +0100, stuart noble
wrote:

On 08/08/2014 14:46, David Rance wrote:
In message , Chris Hogg
writes

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:09:34 +0100, David Rance
wrote:

Yes, except that you haven't put in a sig separator at all. But you
left
my sig in with its separator!

Good game, this, innit? Winding up all those who try to help you! Don't
worry, I know you're trolling me. I'm just trying to see how much more
you can misunderstand my explanations! ;-)

Some of us don't see his posts at all!

Well, that's a good thing because you're not tempted to try to help him.
I thought I would try this time just to see if he's being deliberately
obtuse. Since my five-year-old grandson can understand it, I think I
have the answer!

And, no, that isn't sarcasm, Mike.

David


A bit harsh. Whatever Windows Live Mail is doing shouldn't even be
possible with half decent software. Your grandson maybe has a bright
future explaining it to Microsoft, who clearly don't understand it either!
I'd bite the bullet and switch to Thunderbird, which has worked
flawlessly here for many years

As has Agent and other products. It's at least 10 years since I showed Mike
how
to use sig.s to publicise his charitable activities.
--

Martin in Zuid Holland