After what Sacha said a few weeks ago I joined Twitter just to see what it
was about. So far it's totally boring such that I find I hardly look at it
now after just a couple of weeks, the available space for a tweet is so
small there is no meat in any comment, you can't easily follow a discussion,
not that there can be a decent one with such limited space, nothing like as
good or as easy to follow as a Newsgroup.
I might add I also went onto Facebook a couple of years ago and came off
after a few months because that was also boring, mainly mindless chatter,
and I didn't like the default security setting which were dire, even
dangerous for children etc.
Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing with
this Social Media?

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK

On 2013-11-26 23:06:45 +0000, Bob Hobden said:

After what Sacha said a few weeks ago I joined Twitter just to see what
it was about. So far it's totally boring such that I find I hardly look
at it now after just a couple of weeks, the available space for a tweet
is so small there is no meat in any comment, you can't easily follow a
discussion, not that there can be a decent one with such limited space,
nothing like as good or as easy to follow as a Newsgroup.
I might add I also went onto Facebook a couple of years ago and came
off after a few months because that was also boring, mainly mindless
chatter, and I didn't like the default security setting which were
dire, even dangerous for children etc.
Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing
with this Social Media?

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK

The large number of horti professionals who use Twitter? I'll have a
look tomorrow and post some idea of what's to be seen. Imo, it should
be viewed as a sort of 'alert' system, not an in-depth analysis. On
Facebook, which has no words/numbers restrictions, there is day to day
information about what gardeners, designers, nurseries, are doing.
There are groups that discuss different categories of plants and their
survivial (or otherwise!) is UK weather and so forth. Imo, it's a
mistake to simply dismiss Twitter and Facebook, because, when you DO
see how many gardening types use both, it's possible to see how much
more interchange there is on both than there is now on urg. But
please, do bear in mind that I was not suggesting either as a
substitute for urg but rather as a source of potentially stimulating
discussion on urg, if people look at those and blogs, from time to
time. Naturally, if urglers prefer not to do so, matters will take
their own course.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 Bob Hobden wrote:

After what Sacha said a few weeks ago I joined Twitter just to see what
it was about. So far it's totally boring such that I find I hardly look
at it now after just a couple of weeks, the available space for a tweet
is so small there is no meat in any comment, you can't easily follow a
discussion, not that there can be a decent one with such limited space,
nothing like as good or as easy to follow as a Newsgroup.
I might add I also went onto Facebook a couple of years ago and came
off after a few months because that was also boring, mainly mindless
chatter, and I didn't like the default security setting which were
dire, even dangerous for children etc.
Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing
with this Social Media?

I, too, have got fed up with them. My daughter persuaded me to join
Facebook a year or more ago so that I could follow the news of her
family. To be honest, I find that a poor substitute for actually
contacting me direct to give me news. I still get alerts for one or two
people that I follow so that I know what's going on but I really do NOT
like to follow what my grandchildren write as mostly they are writing to
their own peers and saying things which I really don't want to know
about.

As for Twitter I've followed one or two people in the past and find what
they write inconsequential. For instance, I'm not interested that the
Rector of my church has just started to read such-and-such a book or
that he's just finished taking a service at church.

I'm not contradicting what Sacha said - there *are* little gems but they
are so few and far between that I personally find it a waste of time to
trawl through the masses of tweets. So, Bob, you're not alone!

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK

So, Bob, you're not
alone!


I don't know anyone over 60 that can stand FB or Twitter. Fortunately
the kids have moved on to Snapchat, so we no longer have to look at
their inane ramblings. Twitter seems to be dominated by self publicists
with nothing interesting to say. I give both a very wide berth

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:06:45 -0000, Bob Hobden wrote:

Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing
with this Social Media?

IMHO an awful lot of mindless chatter. There might be the odd grain
of gold but the vast majority is just rubbish.

Is it really important that the rector has finished the Sunday
morning service? I guess it might be if he tweets quickly and the pub
is a few minutes walk from the church, you can get a drink in before
the rush. B-) But then the service will always end about the same
time so you don't need the tweet to know when the rush is going to
happen, you do need a mind though...

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 2013-11-27 10:38:20 +0000, Dave Liquorice said:

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:06:45 -0000, Bob Hobden wrote:

Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing
with this Social Media?

IMHO an awful lot of mindless chatter. There might be the odd grain
of gold but the vast majority is just rubbish.

Is it really important that the rector has finished the Sunday
morning service? I guess it might be if he tweets quickly and the pub
is a few minutes walk from the church, you can get a drink in before
the rush. B-) But then the service will always end about the same
time so you don't need the tweet to know when the rush is going to
happen, you do need a mind though...

I thought the idea was to look at blogs. Some/most bloggers Tweet or
are on Facebook because social media is a very important part of
advertising and pr these days. But Twitter and Facebook aren't the sum
of what these garden enthusiasts or experts write about. For example,
the highly respected designer, Tom Hoblyn is on both but also has a
very good blog:
http://thomashoblyn.com/about/blog

You don't have to be on social media sites to read blogs.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 27/11/2013 13:47, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:06:45 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:

After what Sacha said a few weeks ago I joined Twitter just to see what it
was about. So far it's totally boring such that I find I hardly look at it
now after just a couple of weeks, the available space for a tweet is so
small there is no meat in any comment, you can't easily follow a discussion,
not that there can be a decent one with such limited space, nothing like as
good or as easy to follow as a Newsgroup.
I might add I also went onto Facebook a couple of years ago and came off
after a few months because that was also boring, mainly mindless chatter,
and I didn't like the default security setting which were dire, even
dangerous for children etc.
Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing with
this Social Media?

-- Regards
Bob Hobden
Posting to this Newsgroup
from the W.of London. UK

To the best of my knowledge I have never read a tweet or anyone's
entry on facebook. From what I've read about them, they're for
mindless gossips. It seems to be a truism that twitter is for twits.

+1 The problem is though that companies are tending to use them in lieu
of emails, which can may it problematical.

On 27/11/2013 09:34, David Rance wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 Bob Hobden wrote:



I'm not contradicting what Sacha said - there *are* little gems but they
are so few and far between that I personally find it a waste of time to
trawl through the masses of tweets. So, Bob, you're not alone!

Enjoyment of Twitter depends entirely on what you wish to get out of it.

Many a time I have learnt that something major is happening in the
World, minutes, and sometimes hours, before the BBC reports the facts.
Before anyone reminds me, I am aware that the BBC needs to verify for
accuracy before reporting... but even so - sometimes the length of time
is quite staggering.

Searching for the hashtage '#yourword' is vital to ensure you see what
you want to see (as long as the tweeter uses it of course).

Don't give in - learn a bit more about it and you might discover a new
world out there.

End of sermon.



--
Wendy Tinley
SE Sheffield
4 miles west of junction 30 M1

On 2013-11-27 16:44:48 +0000, Wendy Tinley said:

On 27/11/2013 09:34, David Rance wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 Bob Hobden wrote:



I'm not contradicting what Sacha said - there *are* little gems but they
are so few and far between that I personally find it a waste of time to
trawl through the masses of tweets. So, Bob, you're not alone!

Enjoyment of Twitter depends entirely on what you wish to get out of it.

Many a time I have learnt that something major is happening in the
World, minutes, and sometimes hours, before the BBC reports the facts.
Before anyone reminds me, I am aware that the BBC needs to verify for
accuracy before reporting... but even so - sometimes the length of time
is quite staggering.

Searching for the hashtage '#yourword' is vital to ensure you see what
you want to see (as long as the tweeter uses it of course).

Don't give in - learn a bit more about it and you might discover a new
world out there.

End of sermon.

Halleluia. I mean that!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

In article ,
says...

Enjoyment of Twitter depends entirely on what you wish to get out of it.

Many a time I have learnt that something major is happening in the
World,

In this context, the discussion is whether tweets have any relevance
to gardening discussion here on urg.

Not, twitter as a platform for world news, business advertisers, or
personal promotion by horticultural professionals and businesses.

Janet.

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2013-11-27 10:38:20 +0000, Dave Liquorice said:

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:06:45 -0000, Bob Hobden wrote:

Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing
with this Social Media?

IMHO an awful lot of mindless chatter. There might be the odd grain
of gold but the vast majority is just rubbish.

Is it really important that the rector has finished the Sunday
morning service? I guess it might be if he tweets quickly and the pub
is a few minutes walk from the church, you can get a drink in before
the rush. B-) But then the service will always end about the same
time so you don't need the tweet to know when the rush is going to
happen, you do need a mind though...

I thought the idea was to look at blogs. Some/most bloggers Tweet or are
on Facebook because social media is a very important part of advertising
and pr these days. But Twitter and Facebook aren't the sum of what these
garden enthusiasts or experts write about. For example, the highly
respected designer, Tom Hoblyn is on both but also has a very good blog:
http://thomashoblyn.com/about/blog

You don't have to be on social media sites to read blogs.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

A Club I belong to has a "closed group" on Facebook. This, at first seemed
to be a good idea, but then one member has decided to flood the group with
irrelevant nonsence and spoiled the group.

Bill

On 27/11/2013 10:29, stuart noble wrote:
So, Bob, you're not
alone!


I don't know anyone over 60 that can stand FB or Twitter. Fortunately
the kids have moved on to Snapchat, so we no longer have to look at
their inane ramblings. Twitter seems to be dominated by self publicists
with nothing interesting to say. I give both a very wide berth
You know one now. FB helps me keep up with my son at uni, cos he 'never
has time' to talk on the phone. I volunteer 1 day a week at an animal
rescue centre. FB helps me keep up with whats going on there through the
week.

--
Pete C
adventure before dementure

On 2013-11-27 18:42:11 +0000, Bill Grey said:

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 2013-11-27 10:38:20 +0000, Dave Liquorice said:

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:06:45 -0000, Bob Hobden wrote:

Considering the numbers that use them it must be me, what am I missing
with this Social Media?

IMHO an awful lot of mindless chatter. There might be the odd grain
of gold but the vast majority is just rubbish.

Is it really important that the rector has finished the Sunday
morning service? I guess it might be if he tweets quickly and the pub
is a few minutes walk from the church, you can get a drink in before
the rush. B-) But then the service will always end about the same
time so you don't need the tweet to know when the rush is going to
happen, you do need a mind though...

I thought the idea was to look at blogs. Some/most bloggers Tweet or
are on Facebook because social media is a very important part of
advertising and pr these days. But Twitter and Facebook aren't the sum
of what these garden enthusiasts or experts write about. For example,
the highly respected designer, Tom Hoblyn is on both but also has a
very good blog:
http://thomashoblyn.com/about/blog

You don't have to be on social media sites to read blogs.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

A Club I belong to has a "closed group" on Facebook. This, at first
seemed to be a good idea, but then one member has decided to flood the
group with irrelevant nonsence and spoiled the group.

Bill

The 'admin' could put a stop to that. It happens on newsgroups, too and
then the only resort is a kill file. However, my purpose was to
suggest people found gardening blogs, possibly via Twitter or indeed
simply via typing' uk garden blogs' into Google. I am not recommending
that urglers join or devote themselves to either Twitter or Facebook
but for some reason those now seem to have become the focus of
discussion, rather than blogs which might bring something of interest
to this group.
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2013-11-28 09:12:41 +0000, Martin said:

On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 07:28:56 +0000, Sacha wrote:
snip I am not recommending
that urglers join or devote themselves to either Twitter or Facebook
but for some reason those now seem to have become the focus of
discussion, rather than blogs which might bring something of interest
to this group.

Nor are you recommending that everybody here reads blogs.

It's too late to find out what made Monty Don give up Twitter?

Apparently, his remarks about badger culling led to a flame war. I
rarely read his Twitter page, so I had no idea this was happening. He
gave up once before, I think - may be wrong - so he may well return.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...r-Quitter.html

--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Martin" wrote

It's too late to find out what made Monty Don give up Twitter?

Are you sure? I had a tiny conversation with him just the end of last week
on Twitter. He mentioned he had been watching glass blowing and I said I'd
actually been to Cumbria Crystal watching the same thing the same day. The
only difference being they use real Lead Crystal, to which he seemed
surprised that it's still being used.

You can watch it being done on their site...
http://www.cumbriacrystal.com/
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK