Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Sacha" wrote

Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant, right
beside the already established leaves which have sprouted, flowered and
died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but for all I know, it
could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out new roots, too. What
do I do now?!

In my experience they only usually make a new "crown" if the old one is
damaged and even then it's rare, but they do have that facility. What do you
do now? Carry on what you are doing as it obviously appreciates it and if it
grows into a new plant beside the old one then you will need a bigger pot.
:-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
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On 2013-10-06 17:39:56 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote

Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!

In my experience they only usually make a new "crown" if the old one is
damaged and even then it's rare, but they do have that facility. What
do you do now? Carry on what you are doing as it obviously appreciates
it and if it grows into a new plant beside the old one then you will
need a bigger pot. :-)

Thanks, Bob. I thought I had to cut it off and fiddle about in a
terrifying manner!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Sacha" wrote in message ...

Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote

Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!

In my experience they only usually make a new "crown" if the old one is
damaged and even then it's rare, but they do have that facility. What do
you do now? Carry on what you are doing as it obviously appreciates it
and if it grows into a new plant beside the old one then you will need a
bigger pot. :-)

Thanks, Bob. I thought I had to cut it off and fiddle about in a terrifying
manner!

You can if you want to. :-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 2013-10-06 22:31:21 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote in message ...

Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote

Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!

In my experience they only usually make a new "crown" if the old one is
damaged and even then it's rare, but they do have that facility. What
do you do now? Carry on what you are doing as it obviously appreciates
it and if it grows into a new plant beside the old one then you will
need a bigger pot. :-)

Thanks, Bob. I thought I had to cut it off and fiddle about in a
terrifying manner!

You can if you want to. :-)

Er, no!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 06/10/2013 17:15, Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

On 2013-10-08 14:07:56 +0100, Spider said:

On 06/10/2013 17:15, Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

"Sacha" wrote

, Spider said:

On 06/10/2013 17:15, Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped already. I
can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/


As I suspected it looks like the original crown has been damaged (water on
it over night?) so it's just growing a new one.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 10/10/2013 12:54, Sacha wrote:
On 2013-10-08 14:07:56 +0100, Spider said:

On 06/10/2013 17:15, Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/



Not to worry.
As to the plant, it almost looks as if two orchids were planted in the
same pot, but you would have noticed that, I think. Keikis usually
start on an old flowering stem, rather than at the base of the orchid as
an offset.

If it were mine, I'd leave it alone for now but, in Spring, if the pot
is full of roots and requiring potting on, I'd investigate the
possibility of division then. Bob is urg's consumate orchid expert, so
if he disagrees with me, listen :~).

--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

"Spider" wrote ...

Sacha wrote:
Spider said:

Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/



Not to worry.
As to the plant, it almost looks as if two orchids were planted in the same
pot, but you would have noticed that, I think. Keikis usually start on an
old flowering stem, rather than at the base of the orchid as an offset.

If it were mine, I'd leave it alone for now but, in Spring, if the pot is
full of roots and requiring potting on, I'd investigate the possibility of
division then. Bob is urg's consumate orchid expert, so if he disagrees
with me, listen :~).


Thanks for the vote of confidence re orchids, it's just that I've killed a
lot over the decades. :-)
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

On 2013-10-10 17:13:33 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote

, Spider said:

On 06/10/2013 17:15, Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/


As I suspected it looks like the original crown has been damaged (water
on it over night?) so it's just growing a new one.

They're in the house, in our bathroom but yes, it's possible someone
watered them while we were away and didn't know about keeping the crown
dry. If I splash any water onto them, I dry the leaves. But thanks to
you and to Spider for the help and interest. I'll get a larger pot from
Orchid World and pot on in spring. I'm so pleased that one orchid is
currently showing off some gorgeous white flowers and another is
growing a stem full of buds. I can't quite get over the speed at which
the new flowering stems grow!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 2013-10-10 23:16:47 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Spider" wrote ...

Sacha wrote:
Spider said:

Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/



Not to worry.
As to the plant, it almost looks as if two orchids were planted in the
same pot, but you would have noticed that, I think. Keikis usually
start on an old flowering stem, rather than at the base of the orchid
as an offset.

If it were mine, I'd leave it alone for now but, in Spring, if the pot
is full of roots and requiring potting on, I'd investigate the
possibility of division then. Bob is urg's consumate orchid expert, so
if he disagrees with me, listen :~).


Thanks for the vote of confidence re orchids, it's just that I've
killed a lot over the decades. :-)

Don't shake our faith in you!!
--

Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

On 10/10/2013 23:16, Bob Hobden wrote:
"Spider" wrote ...

Sacha wrote:
Spider said:

Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending
out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph,
Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/



Not to worry.
As to the plant, it almost looks as if two orchids were planted in the
same pot, but you would have noticed that, I think. Keikis usually
start on an old flowering stem, rather than at the base of the orchid
as an offset.

If it were mine, I'd leave it alone for now but, in Spring, if the pot
is full of roots and requiring potting on, I'd investigate the
possibility of division then. Bob is urg's consumate orchid expert,
so if he disagrees with me, listen :~).


Thanks for the vote of confidence re orchids, it's just that I've killed
a lot over the decades. :-)




You're welcome. Indeed, we sometimes have to learn the hard way:-/

Thanks to your advice, I've finally got 3 out of 3 cymbidiums to flower.
One of them has 3 flower spikes; well, they're in bud at the moment.
I can't wait to see the blooms and enjoy the scent.
Also, following your advice, I got 2 out of 3 Malaxa 'Frisky's to flower
again. Just about to see them become dormant for the winter.

--
Spider.
On high ground in SE London
gardening on heavy clay

In article ,
says...

On 2013-10-10 17:13:33 +0100, Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote

, Spider said:

On 06/10/2013 17:15, Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph, Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/


As I suspected it looks like the original crown has been damaged (water
on it over night?) so it's just growing a new one.

They're in the house, in our bathroom but yes, it's possible someone
watered them while we were away and didn't know about keeping the crown
dry. If I splash any water onto them, I dry the leaves. But thanks to
you and to Spider for the help and interest. I'll get a larger pot from
Orchid World and pot on in spring. I'm so pleased that one orchid is
currently showing off some gorgeous white flowers and another is
growing a stem full of buds. I can't quite get over the speed at which
the new flowering stems grow!

It's the flowering period that amases me. I have a
phel - what's it, that started to flower in mid-July,
opening 8 flowers over then next few weeks.

Now almost 3 months later, there are more flowe buds
developing on the stem (at least 3), whilst the first
flower to open looks as fresh as the day it opened.

--
Roger T

700 ft up in Mid-Wales

"Roger Tonkin" wrote


says...

Bob Hobden said:

"Sacha" wrote

, Spider said:

On 06/10/2013 17:15, Sacha wrote:
Is it possible for these Phals to develop from the base of the
plant,
right beside the already established leaves which have sprouted,
flowered and died back? It looks to me like a whole new plantlet
but
for all I know, it could just be new leaves. It seems to be sending
out
new roots, too. What do I do now?!




I've never known it happen, Sacha. Could you post a photograph,
Please?

Sorry Spider, I forgot all about this photo. You can see the new
young
leaves coming through, though one looks as if it's been chomped
already. I can't get a shot of the roots but it does look like a
separate plant.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9369440...4693/lightbox/


As I suspected it looks like the original crown has been damaged (water
on it over night?) so it's just growing a new one.

They're in the house, in our bathroom but yes, it's possible someone
watered them while we were away and didn't know about keeping the crown
dry. If I splash any water onto them, I dry the leaves. But thanks to
you and to Spider for the help and interest. I'll get a larger pot from
Orchid World and pot on in spring. I'm so pleased that one orchid is
currently showing off some gorgeous white flowers and another is
growing a stem full of buds. I can't quite get over the speed at which
the new flowering stems grow!

It's the flowering period that amases me. I have a
phel - what's it, that started to flower in mid-July,
opening 8 flowers over then next few weeks.

Now almost 3 months later, there are more flowe buds
developing on the stem (at least 3), whilst the first
flower to open looks as fresh as the day it opened.


It's to do with the temperature especially at night. The professional
competition growers use that fact to grow more and more flower on the same
spike, how they keep the original flowers from deteriorating over the months
is an amazing bit of plant keeping. I've seen pictures of huge spikes of
flowers but can't find any on the web.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK