My wife raised some Dahlias from seed and gave a lot of them away.
My sister-in-law who was the recipient of some of the plants reported
back that one of the apparent dahlias had produced a plant she could not
identify.

Can some of the experts on this group have a look at the photos at:

http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Peter

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Peter James wrote:

My wife raised some Dahlias from seed and gave a lot of them away.
My sister-in-law who was the recipient of some of the plants reported
back that one of the apparent dahlias had produced a plant she could not
identify.

Can some of the experts on this group have a look at the photos at:

http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Peter
Sorry a faulty link.

Should read:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

Peter

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On 29/08/2013 13:58, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:44:56 +0100, (Peter
James) wrote:

Peter James wrote:

My wife raised some Dahlias from seed and gave a lot of them away.
My sister-in-law who was the recipient of some of the plants reported
back that one of the apparent dahlias had produced a plant she could not
identify.

Can some of the experts on this group have a look at the photos at:

http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Peter
Sorry a faulty link.

Should read:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

Peter

Thorn apple? See

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/...e.aspx?pid=536

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_stramonium

Doesn't say much for the garden centre staff, defiantly Thorn apple.
I remember one growing into a magnificient plant in one of the street
planters in the centre of Cardiff around 20 years ago
David @ a showery side of Swansea Bay

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David Hill wrote:
On 29/08/2013 13:58, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 12:44:56 +0100, (Peter
James) wrote:

Peter James wrote:

My wife raised some Dahlias from seed and gave a lot of them away.
My sister-in-law who was the recipient of some of the plants reported
back that one of the apparent dahlias had produced a plant she could not
identify.

Can some of the experts on this group have a look at the photos at:

http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Peter
Sorry a faulty link.

Should read:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

Peter

Thorn apple? See

http://apps.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/...e.aspx?pid=536

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura_stramonium

Doesn't say much for the garden centre staff, defiantly Thorn apple.
I remember one growing into a magnificient plant in one of the street
planters in the centre of Cardiff around 20 years ago

Yup. Widespread casuals, especially in hotter climates. Unlike
dahlias, where the tubers are edible, all parts of the thorn apple
are lethal.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On 2013-08-29 12:44:56 +0100, Peter James said:

Peter James wrote:

My wife raised some Dahlias from seed and gave a lot of them away.
My sister-in-law who was the recipient of some of the plants reported
back that one of the apparent dahlias had produced a plant she could not
identify.

Can some of the experts on this group have a look at the photos at:

http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Peter
Sorry a faulty link.

Should read:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

Peter

Datura, aka thornapple.
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www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
www.helpforheroes.org.uk

Peter James wrote:

My wife raised some Dahlias from seed and gave a lot of them away.
My sister-in-law who was the recipient of some of the plants reported
back that one of the apparent dahlias had produced a plant she could not
identify.

Can some of the experts on this group have a look at the photos at:

http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Peter
Thank you all for the identification of my problem plant.
As always the expertise in this group is second to none.

Peter

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that you contact me then try peterATpfjamesDOTcoDOTuk

Peter James wrote:
http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Heh, I've got a huge pile of them after Nick bought me a giant one in
a pot last year, and it seeded everywhere. It's a datura. The spikey
seed pods are really quite painful when you accidentally step on one!

The seeds, fwiw, are dimpled disk shape, kind of dark brown colour, I
think with a white blob at the dimpley side (kind of kidney shaped, I
guess). Can't think what dahlia seeds look like, so not sure how easy
they would be to mix up.

The seeds, fwiw, are dimpled disk shape, kind of dark brown colour, I
think with a white blob at the dimpley side (kind of kidney shaped, I
guess). Can't think what dahlia seeds look like, so not sure how easy
they would be to mix up.


Impossible

In article ,
Victoria Conlan wrote:
Peter James wrote:
http//www.flickr.com/photos/phredde

They certainly are not dahlias, and I am intrigued and would like to
know what they are.
The local Garden Centre couldn't identify them. We think they came out
of a packet of Thomson and Morgan seed.

Heh, I've got a huge pile of them after Nick bought me a giant one in
a pot last year, and it seeded everywhere. It's a datura. The spikey
seed pods are really quite painful when you accidentally step on one!

Only when ripe, and only to people with soft feet! Those spikes
are quite soft when green and not all that hard when brown.
But I agree that they can be a nasty shock :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.