On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:02:13 +0000, CT wrote:

I have a problem with ground elder (and creeping buttercup) because the
young leaves of both look similar to strawberry leaves. :-(

Don't talk to me about creeping buttercup!

I surely feel the buttercup pain. If that makes any sense...

Ground elder at least you can kill with glyphosate, but creeping
buttercup colonises cleared areas around trees and can only be taken out
by hand. That means removing deer protection, weeding, putting it back,
ad nauseum. I really despise the stuff.



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Gardening in Lower Normandy

I think you should respect it rather than despise it. To cause you such hassle is really quite an achievement ;-)

kay wrote:
I have a problem with ground elder (and creeping buttercup) because the
young leaves of both look similar to strawberry leaves. :-(
yes, it's interesting the way plants that don't really look alike can
seem so similar when they're entangled in a bed and you're trying to
make a reasonable rate of progress with the weeding. I don't have ground
elder, and I'd find it hard to confuse buttercup with alpine strawberry,
but I find buttercup amongst hardy geraniums can get lost. Another pair

My strawberries aren't alpine, the chickens dug all those up. :-(

(Speaking of chickens - first green egg today! It's ,... a very odd
colour, not the blue we were hoping for, but ... interesting)

On 20 Jun 2013 22:48:21 GMT, wrote:

(Speaking of chickens - first green egg today! It's ,... a very odd
colour, not the blue we were hoping for, but ... interesting)

You'll be looking for some ham then... B-)

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Cheers
Dave.

On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:02:32 +0200, kay wrote:

'Emery Davis[_3_ Wrote:

by hand. That means removing deer protection, weeding, putting it
back,

ad nauseum. I really despise the stuff.


I think you should respect it rather than despise it. To cause you such
hassle is really quite an achievement ;-)

LOL. Sympathy for the Devil? The meadows are full of it this year and
it's blooming very prettily. I alternatively admire and glare, grinding
my teeth, thinking "Look at that %&*@ stuff go!"



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Gardening in Lower Normandy

Dave Liquorice wrote:
(Speaking of chickens - first green egg today! It's ,... a very odd
colour, not the blue we were hoping for, but ... interesting)

You'll be looking for some ham then... B-)

Oddly, you're about the third person to say that. ;-P

On 19/06/13 08:46, wrote:
In article ,
Mick wrote:
Hi all,
In my small front garden in South UK, despite deep digging and
removing it before planting new shrubs etc there is ground elder
shooting up.

I try and dig down each time and remove the root as far as I can.

Will this weaken it over time or should I use a week killer that is
painted on the leaves? if so which one?

Yes, it will, but I would also use HALF-STRENGTH glyphosate on
the leaves. After some time, they will die. If you repeat that
half-a-dozen times, it will kill it.

Pick theyoungleaves and cook as you would spinach.

There's nothing quite as effective as giving it the belief that you want
it there...

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Rusty Hinge

On 19/06/13 12:53, Mick wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:46:53 +0100 (BST), wrote:

In article ,
Mick wrote:
Hi all,
In my small front garden in South UK, despite deep digging and
removing it before planting new shrubs etc there is ground elder
shooting up.

I try and dig down each time and remove the root as far as I can.

Will this weaken it over time or should I use a week killer that is
painted on the leaves? if so which one?

Yes, it will, but I would also use HALF-STRENGTH glyphosate on
the leaves. After some time, they will die. If you repeat that
half-a-dozen times, it will kill it.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

It is in what amounts to a big brick built pot, around 25 feet long by
6 feet wide and 3 feet deep, but when it was built in the 80s they put
clay in the bottom.

I can get bits of root out until I get to the clay, and it is filled
with plants now too.

At least there is no problem from anything next door, just the nightly
drunks throwing rubbish in it on there way home from the pub.

In that case I would (really!) encourage the stuff - but prevent it from
seeding.

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Rusty Hinge

On 20/06/13 10:49, wrote:

I have a problem with ground elder (and creeping buttercup) because the
young leaves of both look similar to strawberry leaves. :-(

Really?


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Rusty Hinge

On 20/06/13 19:28, Emery Davis wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:02:13 +0000, CT wrote:

I have a problem with ground elder (and creeping buttercup) because the
young leaves of both look similar to strawberry leaves. :-(

Don't talk to me about creeping buttercup!

I surely feel the buttercup pain. If that makes any sense...

Ground elder at least you can kill with glyphosate, but creeping
buttercup colonises cleared areas around trees and can only be taken out
by hand. That means removing deer protection, weeding, putting it back,
ad nauseum. I really despise the stuff.

ITYM you really hate the stuff. I'd despise it if it rolled-over and
died as soon as it was attacked...

--
Rusty Hinge

On 20/06/13 23:48, wrote:
kay wrote:
I have a problem with ground elder (and creeping buttercup) because the
young leaves of both look similar to strawberry leaves. :-(
yes, it's interesting the way plants that don't really look alike can
seem so similar when they're entangled in a bed and you're trying to
make a reasonable rate of progress with the weeding. I don't have ground
elder, and I'd find it hard to confuse buttercup with alpine strawberry,
but I find buttercup amongst hardy geraniums can get lost. Another pair

My strawberries aren't alpine, the chickens dug all those up. :-(

(Speaking of chickens - first green egg today! It's ,... a very odd
colour, not the blue we were hoping for, but ... interesting)

You've got a cucko^h^h^h^duck in the nest?

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Rusty Hinge

RustyHinge wrote:
(Speaking of chickens - first green egg today! It's ,... a very odd
colour, not the blue we were hoping for, but ... interesting)

You've got a cucko^h^h^h^duck in the nest?

Quack.

We got 2 new Heritage Blue chooks, which are meant to have an 80% chance
of a green or blue egg, with the others being 'various pastels'. From
what I can tell, unless one of the older girls has shrunk her eggs, of
the 3 new girls (2 Blue and one stripey but i can't remember the breed)
we are getting 1 green, one mid brown and one light brown.

RustyHinge wrote:
I have a problem with ground elder (and creeping buttercup) because the
young leaves of both look similar to strawberry leaves. :-(
Really?

*shrug* Enough to make weeding it out require a second glance, at which
point I'm normally glancing at it in my hand going "oh b*****, I just
pulled out another strawberry", yeah.

On 22/06/2013 14:30, wrote:
RustyHinge wrote:
I have a problem with ground elder (and creeping buttercup) because the
young leaves of both look similar to strawberry leaves. :-(
Really?

*shrug* Enough to make weeding it out require a second glance, at which
point I'm normally glancing at it in my hand going "oh b*****, I just
pulled out another strawberry", yeah.

Just keep doing that then plant the strawberries in a new bed and you
can hit the buttercups with no problem

On 22/06/13 14:29, wrote:
We got 2 new Heritage Blue chooks, which are meant to have an 80% chance
of a green or blue egg, with the others being 'various pastels'. From
what I can tell, unless one of the older girls has shrunk her eggs, of
the 3 new girls (2 Blue and one stripey but i can't remember the breed)
we are getting 1 green, one mid brown and one light brown.

Stripey *eggs*?

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Rusty Hinge