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Just used it to clear ice from the pavement outside. The blade slips
under the edges of the ice easily so that huge chunks can be lifted in
one go. At this rate I could do the rest of the street by tea time

That said, it might not be so easy in colder parts, or on surfaces other
than paving slabs.
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Just used it to clear ice from the pavement outside. The blade slips
under the edges of the ice easily so that huge chunks can be lifted in
one go. At this rate I could do the rest of the street by tea time


Probably sharpened your hoe at the same time.

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On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:12:03 +0000, stuart noble
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Just used it to clear ice from the pavement outside. The blade slips
under the edges of the ice easily so that huge chunks can be lifted in
one go. At this rate I could do the rest of the street by tea time


Was doing that Monday, once into the rhythm was managing lift and hurl
the ice over the hedge into the field in one action.
Neighbour always gets her Dad in for gardening jobs,it is how he makes
a living. He started clearing 45 mins before I did using a spade,
using the Hoe I had cleared the same amount of ground and caught him
up in about 15 mins. Smart ******* he said as we both nattered over a
coffee. Must say that if I had to use a shovel it would be a Devon
type or one of the similar long handled styles. Using a normal spade
for something as relatively light as snow and then a brush to move it
when it can be lifted and hurled in one action is unnecessary hard
work. But the Hoe was in the closer shed and it was only hard surfaces
that needed clearing.

G.Harman
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On 22/01/2013 12:43, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:12:03 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Just used it to clear ice from the pavement outside. The blade slips
under the edges of the ice easily so that huge chunks can be lifted in
one go. At this rate I could do the rest of the street by tea time


Was doing that Monday, once into the rhythm was managing lift and hurl
the ice over the hedge into the field in one action.
Neighbour always gets her Dad in for gardening jobs,it is how he makes
a living. He started clearing 45 mins before I did using a spade,
using the Hoe I had cleared the same amount of ground and caught him
up in about 15 mins. Smart ******* he said as we both nattered over a
coffee. Must say that if I had to use a shovel it would be a Devon
type or one of the similar long handled styles. Using a normal spade
for something as relatively light as snow and then a brush to move it
when it can be lifted and hurled in one action is unnecessary hard
work. But the Hoe was in the closer shed and it was only hard surfaces
that needed clearing.

G.Harman


Harder work still when the spade blade is slightly curved so that there
is only contact in one small area. I guess a 6" long handled hoe would
be the perfect implement.
Given how fast a pair of blokes could work, it saddens me to see
everyone still sliding about and the council not concerning themselves
with footpaths and pavements
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G.Harman wrote

stuart noble wrote:

Just used it to clear ice from the pavement outside. The blade slips
under the edges of the ice easily so that huge chunks can be lifted in
one go. At this rate I could do the rest of the street by tea time


Was doing that Monday, once into the rhythm was managing lift and hurl
the ice over the hedge into the field in one action.
Neighbour always gets her Dad in for gardening jobs,it is how he makes
a living. He started clearing 45 mins before I did using a spade,
using the Hoe I had cleared the same amount of ground and caught him
up in about 15 mins. Smart ******* he said as we both nattered over a
coffee. Must say that if I had to use a shovel it would be a Devon
type or one of the similar long handled styles. Using a normal spade
for something as relatively light as snow and then a brush to move it
when it can be lifted and hurled in one action is unnecessary hard
work. But the Hoe was in the closer shed and it was only hard surfaces
that needed clearing.


I use my long handled manure shovel, it's a proper shovel with a flat blade
and raised sides.
This is the sort of thing.

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/faithfull-...el-no.2-p24420

Woks a treat on squashed snow as it scrapes it off the path with it's sharp
blade.
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:26:27 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
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I use my long handled manure shovel, it's a proper shovel with a flat blade
and raised sides.
This is the sort of thing.

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/faithfull-...el-no.2-p24420

Woks a treat on squashed snow as it scrapes it off the path with it's sharp
blade.


Mothers got one of those still in the shed down in the Southwest, Will
have moved tons of dung in it's time a fair number of them by me and I
left home nearly 40 years ago. Blades been worn to half its length
now. So old it could have from Finches foundry.

G.Harman
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stuart noble wrote:

On 22/01/2013 12:43, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:12:03 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Just used it to clear ice from the pavement outside. The blade slips
under the edges of the ice easily so that huge chunks can be lifted in
one go. At this rate I could do the rest of the street by tea time


Was doing that Monday, once into the rhythm was managing lift and hurl
the ice over the hedge into the field in one action.
Neighbour always gets her Dad in for gardening jobs,it is how he makes
a living. He started clearing 45 mins before I did using a spade,
using the Hoe I had cleared the same amount of ground and caught him
up in about 15 mins. Smart ******* he said as we both nattered over a
coffee. Must say that if I had to use a shovel it would be a Devon
type or one of the similar long handled styles. Using a normal spade
for something as relatively light as snow and then a brush to move it
when it can be lifted and hurled in one action is unnecessary hard
work. But the Hoe was in the closer shed and it was only hard surfaces
that needed clearing.

G.Harman


Harder work still when the spade blade is slightly curved so that there
is only contact in one small area. I guess a 6" long handled hoe would
be the perfect implement.
Given how fast a pair of blokes could work, it saddens me to see
everyone still sliding about and the council not concerning themselves
with footpaths and pavements

When I lived in Canada some years back, it was every householders duty
to clear the snow from the frontage of your property, and if you failed
the local Council would be round pretty quick to make you do it.

Why we don't have the same rules/regualtions in the UK I don't know. It
would make life eaasy for pedestrians, i.e all of us.

Peter

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 08:16:57 +0000, (Peter James)
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stuart noble wrote:

On 22/01/2013 12:43,
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:12:03 +0000, stuart noble
wrote:

Just used it to clear ice from the pavement outside. The blade slips
under the edges of the ice easily so that huge chunks can be lifted in
one go. At this rate I could do the rest of the street by tea time


Was doing that Monday, once into the rhythm was managing lift and hurl
the ice over the hedge into the field in one action.
Neighbour always gets her Dad in for gardening jobs,it is how he makes
a living. He started clearing 45 mins before I did using a spade,
using the Hoe I had cleared the same amount of ground and caught him
up in about 15 mins. Smart ******* he said as we both nattered over a
coffee. Must say that if I had to use a shovel it would be a Devon
type or one of the similar long handled styles. Using a normal spade
for something as relatively light as snow and then a brush to move it
when it can be lifted and hurled in one action is unnecessary hard
work. But the Hoe was in the closer shed and it was only hard surfaces
that needed clearing.

G.Harman


Harder work still when the spade blade is slightly curved so that there
is only contact in one small area. I guess a 6" long handled hoe would
be the perfect implement.
Given how fast a pair of blokes could work, it saddens me to see
everyone still sliding about and the council not concerning themselves
with footpaths and pavements

When I lived in Canada some years back, it was every householders duty
to clear the snow from the frontage of your property, and if you failed
the local Council would be round pretty quick to make you do it.

Why we don't have the same rules/regualtions in the UK I don't know. It
would make life eaasy for pedestrians, i.e all of us.

Peter


It would not work without a complicated list of exceptions. People
like me, stuck in wheelchair, could not clear the pavement. I wouldn't
want because I like to skid down the ramp from the doorway!

The present rule that say if you clear the pavement once you have to
then keep it clear works OK.

Steve

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On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:26:27 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
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I use my long handled manure shovel, it's a proper shovel with a flat blade
and raised sides.
This is the sort of thing.

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/faithfull-...el-no.2-p24420

Woks a treat on squashed snow as it scrapes it off the path with it's sharp
blade.


Mothers got one of those still in the shed down in the Southwest, Will
have moved tons of dung in it's time a fair number of them by me and I
left home nearly 40 years ago. Blades been worn to half its length
now. So old it could have from Finches foundry.

G.Harman

A little OT, we have been fed up with people using our drive to turn
round, they are unable to drive a further 200 yards to a junction it
seems. So I have found an new use for an old rake, I leave it prongs up
just inside the drive. They are welcome to damage their tyres if they
wish. Maybe a coincidence but no trespassers since.

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Mothers got one of those still in the shed down in the Southwest, Will
have moved tons of dung in it's time a fair number of them by me and I
left home nearly 40 years ago.

A little OT, we have been fed up with people using our drive to turn
round, they are unable to drive a further 200 yards to a junction it
seems. So I have found an new use for an old rake, I leave it prongs up
just inside the drive. They are welcome to damage their tyres if they
wish. Maybe a coincidence but no trespassers since.


That can be annoying but one day someone in your home may well suffer
a medical emergency such as a heart attack,in the panic you will
forget or not be in a position to remove the rake. The first responder
vehicle or even the main ambulance comes sweeping into your drive
possibly in the dark to in attempt to keep you alive and gets damaged
and has a delay that could cause a death and have consequences for
others elsewhere as another vehicle has to be found. Your business
but I think it is a dangerous idea. Any reason why you can't just have
a gate or other obvious barrier such as a chain?

G.Harman


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On 2013-01-23 13:38:15 +0000, Broadback said:

On 22/01/2013 19:04, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:26:27 -0000, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:




I use my long handled manure shovel, it's a proper shovel with a flat blade
and raised sides.
This is the sort of thing.

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/faithfull-...el-no.2-p24420


Woks a treat on squashed snow as it scrapes it off the path with it's sharp
blade.


Mothers got one of those still in the shed down in the Southwest, Will
have moved tons of dung in it's time a fair number of them by me and I
left home nearly 40 years ago. Blades been worn to half its length
now. So old it could have from Finches foundry.

G.Harman

A little OT, we have been fed up with people using our drive to turn
round, they are unable to drive a further 200 yards to a junction it
seems. So I have found an new use for an old rake, I leave it prongs up
just inside the drive. They are welcome to damage their tyres if they
wish. Maybe a coincidence but no trespassers since.


Isn't that a little dangerous for animal or human visitors of the
unexpected kind? I'd have thought it could leave you open to a lawsuit.
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