On Jul 14, 11:40*am, Moonraker wrote:
On 14/07/2012 07:58, Steerpike wrote:







On Jul 14, 7:35 am, Doug wrote:
On Jul 14, 12:21 am, "Christina wrote:
If it doesn't stop raining in Leics. *Throwing down all day again, had *a
bit of a break for an hour or so, and back to it.
Will it ever stop?

I seem to remember that when you were all worrying about drought in the UK,
I said it would sort itself out. *It has, just like I knew it would ;-)
Maybe not quite like we wanted exactly.

The length of time it has been raining virtually every day for months
on end is unbelievable. Long-term records have been broken. I am
strongly tempted to think it is due to global warming causing weather
extremes. How else can you account for it? Anyway, it makes gardening
very difficult that is for sure and food producers must be going
frantic.

Doug.

Doug I think you will find from responses to my previous posts
mentioning global warming, that in common with nearly all avid
consumers of corporate media bullshit (which suggests global warming
either doesnt exist or is irrelevant), that posters to this NG accept
the corp media crap rather than the evidence provided by their own
eyes...................

Yes we are having global warming, where I differ is that I am by no
means convinced it is due to our actions. After all the planet has
warmed up (and cooled down) on previous occasions, even as short a time
ago as the Roman dominations the planet was warmer than now. And not as
long as that people regularly skated on the Thames. How do you explain
that Mars has warmed up in recent years, now if it had been the moon we
could blame the Americans! ;-O

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

The above is a pretty fair example of how effective propaganda issued
through the corporate media actually is.....................

And global warming is not due to "our" actions, its due entirely to a
very small group of privileged elite groups, who will go to any sort
of lengths to increase profits and further their own interests.

A very good example of this is the so called war on terror, which
amusingly has largely been orchestrated by the worlds No1 terror
state, the good old USA....................

wrote:
The excessive rain does not seem to have affected my garden unduly,
except for the soft fruit. However, though growing strongly there are no
signs of flowers on my runner beans, could that be due to the wet?
No. The cold. Or too much nitrogen.

All my beans have had the growing tips nipped off by slugs. :'(

In article , says...

I blame the stupid people who a few weeks, yes a few weeks, ago were
bemoaning a draught that is would take many a month to recover from.

If rainfall had been normal for the season, reservoir water levels would
still be low.

The only reason reservoirs are now recovered, is because of the
exceptionally heavy and prolongued rainfall.

Reminds me so much when, in the late 70s, the minister of draught was
transferred to the job of floods, nothing changes, why can't politicians
keep their noses out of common folks lives?

Then we'd be at the mercy of people who think droughts are currents of
air.

Janet

On 14/07/2012 14:03, Steerpike wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:40 am, Moonraker wrote:
On 14/07/2012 07:58, Steerpike wrote:







On Jul 14, 7:35 am, Doug wrote:
On Jul 14, 12:21 am, "Christina wrote:
If it doesn't stop raining in Leics. Throwing down all day again, had a
bit of a break for an hour or so, and back to it.
Will it ever stop?

I seem to remember that when you were all worrying about drought in the UK,
I said it would sort itself out. It has, just like I knew it would ;-)
Maybe not quite like we wanted exactly.

The length of time it has been raining virtually every day for months
on end is unbelievable. Long-term records have been broken. I am
strongly tempted to think it is due to global warming causing weather
extremes. How else can you account for it? Anyway, it makes gardening
very difficult that is for sure and food producers must be going
frantic.

Doug.

Doug I think you will find from responses to my previous posts
mentioning global warming, that in common with nearly all avid
consumers of corporate media bullshit (which suggests global warming
either doesnt exist or is irrelevant), that posters to this NG accept
the corp media crap rather than the evidence provided by their own
eyes...................

Yes we are having global warming, where I differ is that I am by no
means convinced it is due to our actions. After all the planet has
warmed up (and cooled down) on previous occasions, even as short a time
ago as the Roman dominations the planet was warmer than now. And not as
long as that people regularly skated on the Thames. How do you explain
that Mars has warmed up in recent years, now if it had been the moon we
could blame the Americans! ;-O

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

The above is a pretty fair example of how effective propaganda issued
through the corporate media actually is.....................

And global warming is not due to "our" actions, its due entirely to a
very small group of privileged elite groups, who will go to any sort
of lengths to increase profits and further their own interests.

A very good example of this is the so called war on terror, which
amusingly has largely been orchestrated by the worlds No1 terror
state, the good old USA....................

It is sad to say the all governments need an "enemy" to fight. since the
Iron Curtain collapsed they have turned to global Warming and Terrorism
to fill in the gap!

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 17:05:47 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article , says...

I blame the stupid people who a few weeks, yes a few weeks, ago were
bemoaning a draught that is would take many a month to recover from.

If rainfall had been normal for the season, reservoir water levels would
still be low.

The only reason reservoirs are now recovered, is because of the
exceptionally heavy and prolongued rainfall.

Reminds me so much when, in the late 70s, the minister of draught was
transferred to the job of floods, nothing changes, why can't politicians
keep their noses out of common folks lives?

Then we'd be at the mercy of people who think droughts are currents of
air.

Janet


I thought it was board game!

Steve

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In article ,
Janet wrote:
In article , says...

Reminds me so much when, in the late 70s, the minister of draught was
transferred to the job of floods, nothing changes, why can't politicians
keep their noses out of common folks lives?

Then we'd be at the mercy of people who think droughts are currents of
air.

Regrettably, given the current political situation, I am afraid that
we are - though at least they are no longer being told what to think
by Murdoch :-(


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Jul 14, 5:07*pm, Moonraker wrote:
On 14/07/2012 14:03, Steerpike wrote:







On Jul 14, 11:40 am, Moonraker wrote:
On 14/07/2012 07:58, Steerpike wrote:

On Jul 14, 7:35 am, Doug wrote:
On Jul 14, 12:21 am, "Christina wrote:
If it doesn't stop raining in Leics. *Throwing down all day again, had *a
bit of a break for an hour or so, and back to it.
Will it ever stop?

I seem to remember that when you were all worrying about drought in the UK,
I said it would sort itself out. *It has, just like I knew it would ;-)
Maybe not quite like we wanted exactly.

The length of time it has been raining virtually every day for months
on end is unbelievable. Long-term records have been broken. I am
strongly tempted to think it is due to global warming causing weather
extremes. How else can you account for it? Anyway, it makes gardening
very difficult that is for sure and food producers must be going
frantic.

Doug.

Doug I think you will find from responses to my previous posts
mentioning global warming, that in common with nearly all avid
consumers of corporate media bullshit (which suggests global warming
either doesnt exist or is irrelevant), that posters to this NG accept
the corp media crap rather than the evidence provided by their own
eyes...................

Yes we are having global warming, where I differ is that I am by no
means convinced it is due to our actions. After all the planet has
warmed up (and cooled down) on previous occasions, even as short a time
ago as the Roman dominations the planet was warmer than now. And not as
long as that people regularly skated on the Thames. How do you explain
that Mars has warmed up in recent years, now if it had been the moon we
could blame the Americans! ;-O

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

The above is a pretty fair example of how effective propaganda issued
through the corporate media actually is.....................

And global warming is not due to "our" actions, its due entirely to a
very small group of privileged elite groups, who will go to any sort
of lengths to increase profits and further their own interests.

* A very good example of this is the so called war on terror, which
amusingly has largely been orchestrated by the worlds No1 terror
state, the good old USA....................

It is sad to say the all governments need an "enemy" to fight. since the
Iron Curtain collapsed they have turned to global Warming and *Terrorism
to fill in the gap!

--
Residing on low ground in North Staffordshire

Global warming is very real, and so is international terrorism, but
ironically the major culprit here seems intent on attacking others far
less culpable!

On Jul 14, 5:48*pm, wrote:
In article ,

Janet wrote:
In article , says...

Reminds me so much when, in the late 70s, the minister of draught was
transferred to the job of floods, nothing changes, why can't politicians
keep their noses out of common folks lives?

Then we'd be at the mercy of people who think droughts are currents of
air.

Regrettably, given the current political situation, I am afraid that
we are - though at least they are no longer being told what to think
by Murdoch :-(

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I dont think you people quite grasp that Murdoch is to the
establishment what Lord Haw Haw was to Nazi
Germany.............obviously he has fallen out of favour now, but it
seems worrying that phone hacking is the reason, and not publication
of propaganda designed purely and simply to drum up public support for
an illegal attack on the people of Iraq.................

Moonraker wrote in
:


It is sad to say the all governments need an "enemy" to fight. since
the Iron Curtain collapsed they have turned to global Warming and
Terrorism to fill in the gap!


I am shocked that you feel that way.
Remember the 2 towers in NY (9/11), and the london bombings(7/7/05)?
Never forget that a terrorist strike could happen anytime and anywhere, and
the right time for the world to see is right now, at the heart of
democracy, London, and the Olympic Games.
I hope I am wrong.

Baz

On Jul 15, 1:08*am, Baz wrote:
Moonraker wrote :



It is sad to say the all governments need an "enemy" to fight. since
the Iron Curtain collapsed they have turned to global Warming and
Terrorism to fill in the gap!

I am shocked that you feel that way.
Remember the 2 towers in NY (9/11), and the london bombings(7/7/05)?
Never forget that a terrorist strike could happen anytime and anywhere, and
the right time for the world to see is right now, at the heart of
democracy, London, and the Olympic Games.
I hope I am wrong.

Baz

Interesting point of view................the London bombings in actual
fact occurred as a direct result of the US (worlds No1 terror state)
and UK carrying out illegal attacks on the people of Afghanistan and
Iraqi, and had this county not got involved with these 2 very able
examples of US terror it seems unlikely the UK would have been
targeted.

I think some of the conspiracy theories related to 9/11 are clearly
ridiculous, but would imagine its almost certain that Mossad were
directly involved in the attack in some way.

..

In article
,
Steerpike writes
it seems unlikely the UK would have been
targeted.


Yes but that's conjecture on your part
--
Janet Tweedy

In article ,
Janet Tweedy wrote:
In article
,
Steerpike writes
it seems unlikely the UK would have been
targeted.

Yes but that's conjecture on your part

It is a LOT more than that! Some of us were predicting such
attacks for exactly those reasons long before 2001, there were
claims by hostile organisations that they would mount such
attacks, and there were statements by those involved in the
actual attacks that those were among the main reasons.


Anyway, I don't regard this as having much to do with gardening.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Still pedalling the same old illusionary crap Steerpike? you must be a Guardian reader.

On Jul 15, 11:53*am, wrote:
In article ,
Janet Tweedy wrote:

In article
,
Steerpike writes
it seems unlikely the UK would have been
targeted.

Yes but that's conjecture on your part

It is a LOT more than that! *Some of us were predicting such
attacks for exactly those reasons long before 2001, there were
claims by hostile organisations that they would mount such
attacks, and there were statements by those involved in the
actual attacks that those were among the main reasons.

Anyway, I don't regard this as having much to do with gardening.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Sadly the UKs continued involvement in ongoing terrorist actions
perpetrated by the US, means that some sort of attack during the
Olympics is almost inevitable, and the likelihood of this is very
greatly increased by our keystone cops security
measures....................

Whether or not the subject of terrorism has anything to do with
gardening seems beside the point...................each and every
person in the UK is at greatly increased risk due to UK involvement
with US terrorist actions!

Granity wrote in news:Granity.a788bb6
@gardenbanter.co.uk:


Still pedalling the same old illusionary crap Steerpike? you must be a
Guardian reader.



Or a Wikipedia author? Sunday Sport? Same thing really. Bulls**t baffles
brains and his tap is dripping.

Baz