Hey there to anyone reading this, I live in the the Uk, Bucks im 25 and a keen gardener. A plant which I am currently growing from seed is Rhus Typhinia, stags horn sumach, my favourite tree, I already know alot about the tree but Im Wondering If anyone Who doesnt live a million miles away from me has a parent tree they could Propogate some suckers from for me?!

Apparently they grow more rapidly from suckers than seed. Im aware the plant/tree has some unpopular habits but I love them! I hope to hear from anyone who can help. Obviously Happy to swap/pay for them etc :-) Dean

On Jun 11, 12:46*am, Dean25 wrote:
Hey there to anyone reading this, I live in the the Uk, Bucks im 25 and
a keen gardener. A plant which I am currently growing from seed is Rhus
Typhinia, stags horn sumach, my favourite tree, I already know alot
about the tree but Im Wondering If anyone Who doesnt live a million
miles away from me has a parent tree they could Propogate some suckers
from for me?!

Apparently they grow more rapidly from suckers than seed. Im aware the
plant/tree has some unpopular habits but I love them! I hope to hear
from anyone who can help. Obviously Happy to swap/pay for them etc :-)
Dean

--
Dean25


You do know it is a non-native species that is considered as bad as
knotweed by some?
Best to dig it up and burn it.

In article ,
harry wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:46=A0am, Dean25 wrote:

Hey there to anyone reading this, I live in the the Uk, Bucks im 25 and
a keen gardener. A plant which I am currently growing from seed is Rhus
Typhinia, stags horn sumach, my favourite tree, I already know alot
about the tree but Im Wondering If anyone Who doesnt live a million
miles away from me has a parent tree they could Propogate some suckers
from for me?!

Apparently they grow more rapidly from suckers than seed. Im aware the
plant/tree has some unpopular habits but I love them! I hope to hear
from anyone who can help. Obviously Happy to swap/pay for them etc :-)

You do know it is a non-native species that is considered as bad as
knotweed by some?
Best to dig it up and burn it.

Well, there are always a few idiots who claim ridiculous things.

Yes, it suckers profusely and that habit can make it a menace.
However, if it is in a position that the suckers can be kept
under control (e.g. if it is in a lawn, and they are mown off)
and won't damage anything, then that's not a problem. Bay
(Laurus nobilis) suckers, too.

I would be careful about burning it (I don't burn my Cotinus
coggygria prunings), because it is related to Toxicodendron
(poison ivy/oak), and I don't trust the smoke not to be toxic
and damage people's lungs.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Im really just looking for replies from people who have the tree! I already know alot about it and its hardly equal to knotweed. The tree doesnt damage anything, its been ornamentally grown in the uk for over 300 years.
Helpful comments only people!

It is exceedingly common as a garden plant. Surely you will find several within a few mins walk of you, if you live in a residential area. Can't you wander around your locality and ask to take a sucker from someone?

I've even seen it in public plantings, for example outside supermarkets and the like. Could probably steal one from there.

It does come in various varieties. If you want a specific variety for the particular leaf form, etc, you'd be better off buying one from a garden centre, they aren't expensive.

Some do seem to sucker more than others, don't know why.

On 11/06/2012 13:13, Dean25 wrote:
;961287 Wrote:
In article
,
harry wrote:-
On Jun 11, 12:46=A0am, Dean25 wrote:
-
Hey there to anyone reading this, I live in the the Uk, Bucks im 25
and
a keen gardener. A plant which I am currently growing from seed is
Rhus
Typhinia, stags horn sumach, my favourite tree, I already know alot
about the tree but Im Wondering If anyone Who doesnt live a million
miles away from me has a parent tree they could Propogate some suckers
from for me?!

Apparently they grow more rapidly from suckers than seed. Im aware the
plant/tree has some unpopular habits but I love them! I hope to hear
from anyone who can help. Obviously Happy to swap/pay for them etc
:-)-

You do know it is a non-native species that is considered as bad as
knotweed by some?
Best to dig it up and burn it.-

Well, there are always a few idiots who claim ridiculous things.

Yes, it suckers profusely and that habit can make it a menace.
However, if it is in a position that the suckers can be kept
under control (e.g. if it is in a lawn, and they are mown off)
and won't damage anything, then that's not a problem. Bay
(Laurus nobilis) suckers, too.

I would be careful about burning it (I don't burn my Cotinus
coggygria prunings), because it is related to Toxicodendron
(poison ivy/oak), and I don't trust the smoke not to be toxic
and damage people's lungs.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Im really just looking for replies from people who have the tree! I
already know alot about it and its hardly equal to knotweed. The tree
doesnt damage anything, its been ornamentally grown in the uk for over
300 years.
Helpful comments only people!



Yes, I have it and it suckers well into gravel so pulls easily.
David @ the showery end of Swansea Bay

In article , Dean25.a4bb8b6
@gardenbanter.co.uk says...

Im really just looking for replies from people who have the tree!
Helpful comments only people!

You appear to be under the delusion you have reached the customer
advisory desk at a garden centre dedicated to serving you.

This is a discussion group, called uk.rec.gardening, which is
completely independent of gardenbanter.

There is no membership, no moderator, anyone here is free to DISCUSS rhus
typhina whether or not what they say is relevent to your post.Gardenbanter
has no control over what is discussed here, or who replies, and neither do
you.


Janet.

"David Hill" wrote ...
Dean wrote:
Nick Wrote:
harry wrote:-
Dean wrote:
-
Hey there to anyone reading this, I live in the the Uk, Bucks im 25
and
a keen gardener. A plant which I am currently growing from seed is
Rhus
Typhinia, stags horn sumach, my favourite tree, I already know alot
about the tree but Im Wondering If anyone Who doesnt live a million
miles away from me has a parent tree they could Propogate some suckers
from for me?!

Apparently they grow more rapidly from suckers than seed. Im aware the
plant/tree has some unpopular habits but I love them! I hope to hear
from anyone who can help. Obviously Happy to swap/pay for them etc
:-)-

You do know it is a non-native species that is considered as bad as
knotweed by some?
Best to dig it up and burn it.-

Well, there are always a few idiots who claim ridiculous things.

Yes, it suckers profusely and that habit can make it a menace.
However, if it is in a position that the suckers can be kept
under control (e.g. if it is in a lawn, and they are mown off)
and won't damage anything, then that's not a problem. Bay
(Laurus nobilis) suckers, too.

I would be careful about burning it (I don't burn my Cotinus
coggygria prunings), because it is related to Toxicodendron
(poison ivy/oak), and I don't trust the smoke not to be toxic
and damage people's lungs.



Im really just looking for replies from people who have the tree! I
already know alot about it and its hardly equal to knotweed. The tree
doesnt damage anything, its been ornamentally grown in the uk for over
300 years.
Helpful comments only people!



Yes, I have it and it suckers well into gravel so pulls easily.


We had it but the suckers came up everywhere, mower was always hitting the
roots too, and when the suckers started to come up in next doors garden,
having travelled under our drive, I cut it down and poisoned it.
Personally, whilst I like the look of tree there are others out there that
stay small, are better looking, but don't have quite the same bad habits.
I'm presently growing some Albizia julibrissin from seed.
--
Regards. Bob Hobden.
Posted to this Newsgroup from the W of London, UK

In article , Sacha wrote:

Well, it could be called helpful if people with experience warn you
against any plant! But what you will always get in a newsgroup - and
your post has come to uk.rec.gardening - is opinions from which you can
pick and choose. You appear to have made up your mind about it
already, so I'm not sure why you're asking for anyone's
help/advice/opinion. What does puzzle me is why you want so many of
them that you're growing them from seed *and* want people to propagate
suckers for you. Are you cornering the market in Rhus sales?

Well, there's a sucker born every minute :-)

I grew one because I like them as architectural plants, and got rid
of it because it was either it or the drive ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Monday, 11 June 2012 13:13:10 UTC+1, Dean25 wrote:
;961287 Wrote:
I would be careful about burning it (I don't burn my Cotinus
coggygria prunings), because it is related to Toxicodendron
(poison ivy/oak), and I don't trust the smoke not to be toxic
and damage people's lungs.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Im really just looking for replies from people who have the tree! I
already know alot about it and its hardly equal to knotweed. The tree
doesnt damage anything, its been ornamentally grown in the uk for over
300 years.
Helpful comments only people!

At risk of another petulant outburst may I suggest an elegant well behaved alternative?
Aralia Elata has much of a similar look about it with none of the drawbacks of R. typhina. It is especially beautiful in age though sadly you aren't going to see a 100yr old specimen in your own garden; I had the care of one such aged specimen in my old work garden next to some Sumachs and the Aralia totally eclipsed them.
Nick knows what he's talking about, R. typhina can provoke an allergic response and some other members of the family are really nasty. I and my daughter had a very dangerous and painful run in with one some years ago.

Rod

yes the Standard Stag horn sumach suckers the most, the other cut leaf versions dont get as large or sucker as much. not many garden centres have it and the garden centre that does are selling them at £15 each. I wanted a few suckers to grow on and I cant afford to buy say £45 worth! I do see lots in nearby gardens but Im not brave enough to ask strangers to dig up suckers for me! would be a bit odd!

Your incredibly rude Janet. I had never used this site before until last night and if I was deluded it certainly didnt warrant your DISGUSTING message.

Gosh I cant believe how cagey people have been about this! I have a big garden and Rhus typhina is my favourite small tree! I wanted to grow some in pots etc. I wasnt asking people for advice! I was asking if anyone who had one who could supply me with a couple of suckers! Id never used this website before and obviously made a mistake! dEAN

Thanks for your message, Im a little confused about your petulant outburst comment! Do you mean me? Im wondering why my messages have come across badly!

Id already stated that I love the tree! Why would i consider someone saying burn it down helpful!!