On Feb 8, 1:53*pm, "Thomas R. Kettler" wrote:
In article
,
*Devils Advocaat wrote:









On Feb 8, 2:14*am, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Disculpa Senora Devils Advocaat, pero did you really mime the following
* on 2/7/2012 6:25 PM???

On Feb 7, 10:58 pm, "The Undead Edward M. *wrote:
"Devils *wrote

snip

Why the snippage?

The first electronic programmable computer - the Colossus - was
British built in 1943.

The first American computer of the same sort wasn't fully operational
until 1945.

Okay, "useful versions" applies here.

Indeed, the Brits had a working system before the Americans.

Bullshit - have you heard of the EINAC? It was developed at Penn State
University, in my home sate of Pennsylvania. *That was teh first
computer that actually worked. I'm not sure what this Collosal that you
talk about is - a quick check on Wikipedia reveals nothing about it.

ENIAC wasn't operational until 1946.

The computer I mentioned was called Colossus not Collosal.

You will find the Mark 1 Colossus was up and running in 1943.

And the Mark 2 in 1944.

How do you classify Babbage's machine then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage
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Are you referring to his Analytical Engine?

Sadly he never got to building it, and only one other person
understood his ideas.

That was Ada Lovelace who actually prepared a program to run on it,
using punched cards.

Presently a team at the Science Museum in London, UK are working on
building this behemoth.

If he had managed to build it in his day, I would have to most
definitely say it was the first programmable - albeit only mechanical
- computer.

On Feb 8, 1:53*pm, "Thomas R. Kettler" wrote:
In article
,
*Devils Advocaat wrote:









On Feb 8, 2:14*am, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Disculpa Senora Devils Advocaat, pero did you really mime the following
* on 2/7/2012 6:25 PM???

On Feb 7, 10:58 pm, "The Undead Edward M. *wrote:
"Devils *wrote

snip

Why the snippage?

The first electronic programmable computer - the Colossus - was
British built in 1943.

The first American computer of the same sort wasn't fully operational
until 1945.

Okay, "useful versions" applies here.

Indeed, the Brits had a working system before the Americans.

Bullshit - have you heard of the EINAC? It was developed at Penn State
University, in my home sate of Pennsylvania. *That was teh first
computer that actually worked. I'm not sure what this Collosal that you
talk about is - a quick check on Wikipedia reveals nothing about it.

ENIAC wasn't operational until 1946.

The computer I mentioned was called Colossus not Collosal.

You will find the Mark 1 Colossus was up and running in 1943.

And the Mark 2 in 1944.

How do you classify Babbage's machine then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage
--
Remove blown from email address to reply.

Are you referring to his Analytical Engine?

Sadly he never got to building it, and only one other person
understood his ideas.

That was Ada Lovelace who actually prepared a program to run on it,
using punched cards.

Presently a team at the Science Museum in London, UK are working on
building this behemoth.

If he had managed to build it in his day, I would have to most
definitely say it was the first programmable - albeit only mechanical
- computer.

In article ,
Thomas R. Kettler wrote:
In article
,
Devils Advocaat wrote:

On Feb 8, 2:14*am, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Disculpa Senora Devils Advocaat, pero did you really mime the following
* on 2/7/2012 6:25 PM???

On Feb 7, 10:58 pm, "The Undead Edward M. *wrote:
"Devils *wrote

snip

Why the snippage?

The first electronic programmable computer - the Colossus - was
British built in 1943.

The first American computer of the same sort wasn't fully operational
until 1945.

Okay, "useful versions" applies here.

Indeed, the Brits had a working system before the Americans.

Bullshit - have you heard of the EINAC? It was developed at Penn State
University, in my home sate of Pennsylvania. *That was teh first
computer that actually worked. I'm not sure what this Collosal that you
talk about is - a quick check on Wikipedia reveals nothing about it.

ENIAC wasn't operational until 1946.

The computer I mentioned was called Colossus not Collosal.

You will find the Mark 1 Colossus was up and running in 1943.

And the Mark 2 in 1944.

How do you classify Babbage's machine then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Babbage

Just to add to this flame war, the first stored program computer was
British (the Manchester Baby) and the first practical one (EDSAC I).
The transpondians didn't catch up until the first commercial one,
in 1951, where Univac beat LEO by 6 months.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article
,
Devils Advocaat wrote:

On Feb 8, 1:53*pm, "Thomas R. Kettler" wrote:
In article
,
*Devils Advocaat wrote:
On Feb 8, 2:14*am, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Disculpa Senora Devils Advocaat, pero did you really mime the following
* on 2/7/2012 6:25 PM???

On Feb 7, 10:58 pm, "The Undead Edward M.
*wrote:
"Devils *wrote

snip

Why the snippage?

The first electronic programmable computer - the Colossus - was
British built in 1943.

The first American computer of the same sort wasn't fully
operational
until 1945.

Okay, "useful versions" applies here.

Indeed, the Brits had a working system before the Americans.

Bullshit - have you heard of the EINAC? It was developed at Penn State
University, in my home sate of Pennsylvania. *That was teh first
computer that actually worked. I'm not sure what this Collosal that you
talk about is - a quick check on Wikipedia reveals nothing about it.

ENIAC wasn't operational until 1946.

The computer I mentioned was called Colossus not Collosal.

You will find the Mark 1 Colossus was up and running in 1943.

And the Mark 2 in 1944.

How do you classify Babbage's machine then?

Are you referring to his Analytical Engine?

Sadly he never got to building it, and only one other person
understood his ideas.

That was Ada Lovelace who actually prepared a program to run on it,
using punched cards.

Presently a team at the Science Museum in London, UK are working on
building this behemoth.

If he had managed to build it in his day, I would have to most
definitely say it was the first programmable - albeit only mechanical
- computer.

According to the following, Difference Engines based on Babbage's
designs were built in the 1850's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_engine
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Tater Cole wrote:
Downtown Abbey is a pretty good program on BBC America. However,
actual research suggests that British aristocracy treated most of the
domestic class like animals. In fact, I believe some hunting dogs had
it much better than your typical laundry maid. Yes, the Butler and
Housekeeper were treated with respect, but still, seems like this
program is quite inaccurate regarding the Victorian domestic class.
Maybe it's simply liberal Brit revisionist history at work again,
through the auspices of 'high entertainment' by the BBC.

(1) A group of bozos on a city street agree to join an social
experiment.

(2) Subjects (bozos) are divided into groups on basis of trivial
criteria like flipping a coin to deterimine if one is in Group X or
Group Y.

(3) Subjects do not interact, either within or between groups.

(4) Members of own group and other group remain anonymous.

(5) Subjects are then asked to allot money to two other subjects,
designated only by code number and group membership (X or Y). Subjects
own outcomes will not be affected by their allocation decisions.

(6) Despite minimal nature of these groups, subjects allocations
consistently favored other members of their own arbitrarily designated
groups, at the expense of members of the recently typed "outgroups".

[Tajfel] argues that the reason for this allocation strategy is to
create a differentiation between the groups which permits their group
membership to enhance their social identity.

------------------------------------------------
The Social Animal - Elliot Aronson - 8th Edition 1999
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0716733129/

Caste is an elaborate and complex social system that combines elements
of endogamy, occupation, culture, social class, tribal affiliation and
political power. It should not be confused with race or social class,
e.g. members of different castes in one society may belong to the same
race or class, as in India. Usually, but not always, members of the
same caste are of the same social rank, have similar group of
occupations and typically have mores which distinguish it from other
groups. The word caste can also just generally refer to any rigid
system of cultural or social distinctions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlUkzfITiSs

Well maybe all that is a little extreme but this is where all that can
lead when human nature is mismatched with culturally imprinted and
artificial rank, status and vertical hierarchy.

On 07/02/2012 17:56, The Undead Edward M. Kennedy wrote:
"Devils wrote

I thought the Brits were into gardening...? Granted they haven't had
a decent philosopher in over a century.

Except Jeremy Clarkson!

On 07/02/2012 18:56, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

The game you refer to is called soccer - not football.

Only in countries that can't play it.

On 07/02/2012 22:58, The Undead Edward M. Kennedy wrote:

The first electronic programmable computer - the Colossus - was
British built in 1943.

The first American computer of the same sort wasn't fully operational
until 1945.

Okay, "useful versions" applies here.

Colossus was "useful" enough to play a significant part in victory in WW2

"mikeos" wrote

The game you refer to is called soccer - not football.

Only in countries that can't play it.

BS. The Supreme Court overturned the ban on soccer.

--Tedward

"mikeos" wrote

The first electronic programmable computer - the Colossus - was
British built in 1943.

The first American computer of the same sort wasn't fully operational
until 1945.

Okay, "useful versions" applies here.

Colossus was "useful" enough to play a significant part in victory in WW2

The firing systems in WWII ships were basically analog computers too.
Good luck checking your email with them.

--Tedward

On Feb 8, 12:05*pm, mikeos wrote:
On 07/02/2012 18:56, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:



The game you refer to is called soccer - not football.

Only in countries that can't play it.

So that's what the English use too then, right?

"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" wrote

The game you refer to is called soccer - not football.

Only in countries that can't play it.

So that's what the English use too then, right?

That would explain the American players in the "Premier" league.

--Tedward

[mikeos, ]
[Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:05:40 +0000]

: On 07/02/2012 18:56, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
:
: The game you refer to is called soccer - not football.
:
: Only in countries that can't play it.

I watch Gillette Soccer Saturday every week.

You were saying?

[mikeos, ]
[Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:07:39 +0000]

: The first American computer of the same sort wasn't fully operational
: until 1945.
:
: Okay, "useful versions" applies here.
:
: Colossus was "useful" enough to play a significant part in victory in WW2

Was it the machine used to plea for America to save Britain's arse?

In article
,
Tater Cole wrote:

Downtown Abbey is a pretty good program on BBC America. However,
actual research suggests that British aristocracy treated most of the
domestic class like animals. In fact, I believe some hunting dogs had
it much better than your typical laundry maid. Yes, the Butler and
Housekeeper were treated with respect, but still, seems like this
program is quite inaccurate regarding the Victorian domestic class.
Maybe it's simply liberal Brit revisionist history at work again,
through the auspices of 'high entertainment' by the BBC.

What is this lame, hateful, hand-wringing, tendentious, weepy,
thread doing in rsfc?

Oh. Nevermind.

--
Michael Press