Hi, ive just registered on here and want some advice on standard rose growing. I would like to grow one from start, but i dont have any ideas as to what is needed in terms of seeds, maintannce weather conditions, basically everything? Also dont have a specific type in mind so any sugestions are welcome but basically i want to know about standard rose, not interested in bush's
Is this possible to do living in the UK and only having a "normal house garden"
Any advice is greatly apreciated so thanks in advance

Austin

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Hi, ive just registered on here and want some advice on standard rose
growing. I would like to grow one from start, but i dont have any ideas
as to what is needed in terms of seeds, maintannce weather conditions,
basically everything? Also dont have a specific type in mind so any
sugestions are welcome but basically i want to know about standard rose,
not interested in bush's
Is this possible to do living in the UK and only having a "normal house
garden"
Any advice is greatly apreciated so thanks in advance

Austin




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Austin-182

Standard roses are normally worked onto special stocks to form the trunk,
with the variety budded on at the top, its not easy to turn an existing bush
rose into a standard, it is a bit easier with ramblers but the effect can be
very untidy.


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Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk

On Jun 19, 7:25*pm, Austin-182
wrote:
Hi, ive just registered on here and want some advice on standard rose
growing. I would like to grow one from start, but i dont have any ideas
as to what is needed in terms of seeds, maintannce weather conditions,
basically everything? Also dont have a specific type in mind so any
sugestions are welcome but basically i want to know about standard rose,
not interested in bush's
Is this possible to do living in the UK and only having a "normal house
garden"
Any advice is greatly apreciated so thanks in advance

Austin

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Austin-182
Growing roses is an enormous topic.
It's like saying "how do I play football?" No-one could possibly just
say do this or that. Go and get a good book and if you have any
problems/specific questions come back and ask.

On Jun 19, 7:25*pm, Austin-182
wrote:
Hi, ive just registered on here and want some advice on standard rose
growing. I would like to grow one from start, but i dont have any ideas
as to what is needed in terms of seeds, maintannce weather conditions,
basically everything? Also dont have a specific type in mind so any
sugestions are welcome but basically i want to know about standard rose,
not interested in bush's
Is this possible to do living in the UK and only having a "normal house
garden"
Any advice is greatly apreciated so thanks in advance

Austin

--
Austin-182

As others have said this is a huge subject but it's never too soon to
start learning. The techniques involved are not intrinsically
difficult but I'm guessing you have pretty well no experience so
you'll be on a steep learning curve.
First of all, all commercially produced roses are made up of 2 parts,
a 'rootstock' which in bush roses is the bit underground and in
standards is the root and the stem up to the level where your
cultivated variety is grafted.
Rootstocks are usually selected forms of certain wild roses grown from
seed for bushes and for standards are a cultivated rose called Rosa
rugosa.
This grafting in each case is a special technique called budding or
bud grafting, you'll need to mug up with Google's help for the
technique.
Rootstocks for standards are easy to obtain - you need a neighbour or
friend who has a hedge of Rosa rugosa that's gone a bit wild, this
rose suckers all over the place and it shouldn't be difficult to find
an unwanted sucker you could dig up with the owner's permission, do
this in autumn/early winter and plant in some good well prepared soil
in your own garden. The sucker needs to be a good single stem of this
year's growth a good bit bit taller than the height at which you wish
to bud your cultivated variety and it needs a good strong root.
The R. rugosa you are looking for is a commonly grown hedging plant,
usually magenta/purple or white single flowers. Old stems are brown,
new stems are a characterist light green and the whole plant is densly
covered in small prickles (much smaller and numerous than on most
roses) The stem you want is one of those light green ones, probably
4ft or so high with no side shoots.
When that is well established next summer - June/July you find a
cultivated rose you want to put on your standard, again you need that
friendly neighbour to let you have 2 or 3 'sticks' of that year's
growth - it has to be that year's growth but it needs to be already
hard and woody. It doesn't matter if it's a bush or standard.
Having got your stock and your budwood, just use what you learned from
your research to make and insert your buds. You'll need a *sharp*
knife (sharp enough to shave your arm) and something to tie in the
buds - raffia or plumbers' thread seal tape will do. Put three buds on
about 3" apart and spaced around the stem at the height you want.
Then nothing happens until the next spring when you cut off the
R.rugosa above the highest bud, the buds will then start to grow and
flower and you have your standard rose.

Rod

Would it therefor be theoretically possible to grow a standard rugosa? Or would you end up with the untidy sort of toilet brush effect that you get if you don't pay attention to your rugosa hedge?

And of course, if you really want to do things the hard way, rugosas come easily from seed - at least, they do, if you pay no attention to them and let them self-seed where they will. What do you reckon - 3-4 years to get from seed to a stem tall enough to be regarded as a standard?