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I was given some tomato plants last night from a friend who was going
off on holiday. When I look at them this morning, there are 2 varieties
I don know and can not find any details on via google. They a

Pomodora
and
Grosse Lisse

Al I need to know is type/height do I pinch out etc.

Also,

I looked at my growbags today, and it says on them do not plant tomatoes
until first flowers have opened. I've never done this before, does it
make any difference.

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"Roger Tonkin" wrote

I was given some tomato plants last night from a friend who was going
off on holiday. When I look at them this morning, there are 2 varieties
I don know and can not find any details on via google. They a

Pomodora
and
Grosse Lisse

Al I need to know is type/height do I pinch out etc.

Also,

I looked at my growbags today, and it says on them do not plant tomatoes
until first flowers have opened. I've never done this before, does it
make any difference.


Pomodora is simply Italian for tomato so goodness knows what you have there,
maybe a Roma (bush) type but you can't tell at this stage.
http://www.thompson-morgan.com/veget...eeds/gww0475TM

Grosse Lisse is an indeterminate to possibly 2 metres but doubtful in the
UK, so you pinch out the side shoots.

I've always planted our Tomatoes like everything else, when the ground is
ready and the frosts have finished but then they will be out on our plot in
the soil.

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Roger Tonkin wrote:
I looked at my growbags today, and it says on them do not plant tomatoes
until first flowers have opened. I've never done this before, does it
make any difference.


I always plant in growbags when they look like they have outgrown the 9cm
pots they are in! Which is typically well before they have flowered. This
year 2 of the 18 I have done so far have an open flower, but they look
/really/ seriously in need of somewhere bigger to get their roots into!
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I was given some tomato plants last night from a friend who was going
off on holiday. When I look at them this morning, there are 2 varieties
I don know and can not find any details on via google. They a

Pomodora
and
Grosse Lisse

Al I need to know is type/height do I pinch out etc.

Also,

I looked at my growbags today, and it says on them do not plant tomatoes
until first flowers have opened. I've never done this before, does it
make any difference.



If you can, it is sometimes better to plant out in pots than GroBags as they
are easier to keep watered and provide more support when the plants are
large.
At least, that is what I do :-)

I still use GroBags because they are good value for money - just empty them
into pots before planting out the tomatoes.

HTH

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David WE Roberts wrote:
If you can, it is sometimes better to plant out in pots than GroBags as they
are easier to keep watered and provide more support when the plants are
large.
At least, that is what I do :-)


We buy 'deep' growbags (cost proportionally more, I think, but worth it) and
then sink large pots with their bottoms kncoked out into them, then plant as
deep as possible in that, and build up the soil from either another growbag
or a soil bale.


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On Thu, 26 May 2011 13:22:21 +0100, "David WE Roberts"
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"Roger Tonkin" wrote in message
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I was given some tomato plants last night from a friend who was going
off on holiday. When I look at them this morning, there are 2 varieties
I don know and can not find any details on via google. They a

Pomodora
and
Grosse Lisse

Al I need to know is type/height do I pinch out etc.

Also,

I looked at my growbags today, and it says on them do not plant tomatoes
until first flowers have opened. I've never done this before, does it
make any difference.



If you can, it is sometimes better to plant out in pots than GroBags as they
are easier to keep watered and provide more support when the plants are
large.
At least, that is what I do :-)

I still use GroBags because they are good value for money - just empty them
into pots before planting out the tomatoes.


Has anyone tried what I saw once; growbags cut in half round the
middle and the halves stood on end, with some means of keeping them
upright. Then plant one tomato plant in each. You get more soil per
plant, easier support and less watering.
Plant tomatoes deep, as Monty said last week.

Pam in Bristol
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Has anyone tried what I saw once; growbags cut in half round the
middle and the halves stood on end, with some means of keeping them
upright. Then plant one tomato plant in each. You get more soil per
plant, easier support and less watering.
Plant tomatoes deep, as Monty said last week.
You could get "more soil per plant" just by planting fewer plants in your growbag.

If you cut a growbag in half, you get a bit a of a mess as soil spills out. Wouldn't it be easier just to use compost in the bottom of an old compost bag? What is the cost per litre of compost bought in a grow bag compared with compost bought as a bag of compost?
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On Fri, 27 May 2011 09:28:20 +0000, kay
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'Pam Moore[_2_ Wrote:
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Has anyone tried what I saw once; growbags cut in half round the
middle and the halves stood on end, with some means of keeping them
upright. Then plant one tomato plant in each. You get more soil per
plant, easier support and less watering.
Plant tomatoes deep, as Monty said last week.


You could get "more soil per plant" just by planting fewer plants in
your growbag.

If you cut a growbag in half, you get a bit a of a mess as soil spills
out. Wouldn't it be easier just to use compost in the bottom of an old
compost bag? What is the cost per litre of compost bought in a grow bag
compared with compost bought as a bag of compost?


Growbag stuff can be under half the price, though it's often of a
coarser grade: in a bad case, mixing in a bit of garden soil can
improve the texture.

A neater and more stable solution is to buy an armful of cheap buckets
from a quid shop, and make drainage holes in the bottoms. Half a
growbag's contents in each one, a three-pole tipi of six-foot canes,
and it's a home fit for a king of tomatoes. The plastic in these cheap
buckets isn't always very strong, but they should last long enough for
the extra expense to become negligible.

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Mike Lyle wrote:
A neater and more stable solution is to buy an armful of cheap buckets
from a quid shop, and make drainage holes in the bottoms. Half a
growbag's contents in each one, a three-pole tipi of six-foot canes,
and it's a home fit for a king of tomatoes. The plastic in these cheap
buckets isn't always very strong, but they should last long enough for
the extra expense to become negligible.


Wouldn't it be easier to buy a large pot?
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On 27 May 2011 18:00:10 GMT, wrote:

Mike Lyle wrote:
A neater and more stable solution is to buy an armful of cheap buckets
from a quid shop, and make drainage holes in the bottoms. Half a
growbag's contents in each one, a three-pole tipi of six-foot canes,
and it's a home fit for a king of tomatoes. The plastic in these cheap
buckets isn't always very strong, but they should last long enough for
the extra expense to become negligible.


Wouldn't it be easier to buy a large pot?


Well, yes, it would be _easier_, but that's a long way from halving
growbags, which I assume the OP wanted to do for economy. I haven't
seen 10-litre pots for a pound round here.

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Mike Lyle wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to buy a large pot?

Well, yes, it would be _easier_, but that's a long way from halving
growbags, which I assume the OP wanted to do for economy. I haven't
seen 10-litre pots for a pound round here.


Ah, I have quite a few pots that came free off freecycle. Don't think any
are quite that big, but I did also get some very cheap large ones (grapevine
size) freom Wilkinsons for less than a pound at the end of last year.
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Vicky wrote in

Mike Lyle wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to buy a large pot?

Well, yes, it would be _easier_, but that's a long way from halving
growbags, which I assume the OP wanted to do for economy. I haven't
seen 10-litre pots for a pound round here.


Ah, I have quite a few pots that came free off freecycle. Don't think any
are quite that big, but I did also get some very cheap large ones
(grapevine
size) freom Wilkinsons for less than a pound at the end of last year.


Last time we went to Kew and parked at Brentford Gate (£6 !!) Kew had put
out a large bin with their old pre-used plastic flowerpots for anyone to
take. I picked up a whole batch of identical pots for my Begonias, nicer
than having them in all different coloured/shaped pots and I didn't have
enough anyway. Easily paid for the Car Park.
Some Garden Centres that do Landscaping also put out pots, Squires at West
Horsley for example, and I've got some huge pots (ex-tree type) there.

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Indeed Wilkinsons are a good source of cheep gardening stuff just check their web site to see what they've got, picked up some very large gravel trays from them a couple of years ago at a quarter of the price that garden centers were charging. Our local 'dell boy' shop was selling 12" pots at 10 for a quid a couple of years ago and 6" at 20 for the same price, they didn't have them very long.
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