The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

In message
,
harry writes
The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

Is Asulox available for retail sale?
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

On 04/04/2011 19:43, harry wrote:
The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

Firstly, it is not approved for amateur use. Secondly, there have been
moves to ban it for professional use, but it may survive:
http://www.nfus.org.uk/news/2011/mar...m-ban-reprieve

--

Jeff

On Apr 4, 7:43*pm, harry wrote:
The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/


Any "dopey pillock" who thinks anyone can go out and buy Asulox is
living in another world.
It is only available to professionals and is available in 5-litre
pack, which will treat 1/2 to 1 hectare, the cost is £90.
To purchase it you must have the relevant certificates, and preferably
a holding Number.
You then have to have the correct protective clothing and a suitable
sprayer.
For the amateur it is easier to use Glyphosate in July, bruising the
bracken before spraying and adding a few drops of washing up liquid to
the mix makes it more efficient, it will take a couple of years to do
the job, but at least you are legal.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox


IME bracken's not a problem. In our last garden, we had a patch of
bracken in one corner of the garden. We got rid of it simply by
pulling up the fronds after they had grown to a certain size. Pull
them too soon when they're still soft and tender and they just snap
off, but get it right and up comes a brown bit of root. We just kept
pulling whenever we saw a frond of the right age, and it was all gone
in a couple of years with minimal effort.

Same here. Or you can do the job even faster with a toothed metal
blade on a brushcutter.(while the fronds are soft as hard mature stems
ones will blunt it fast)

Asulox is licensed for professional use; and it's highly toxic to
aquatics, not suitable for using near streams rivers or garden ponds.

Janet

On Apr 4, 7:55*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:
In message
,
harry writes

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

Is Asulox available for retail sale?
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

You need to go to a farmer's/agricultural merchant to get it. Five
litre containers to dilute down.

On Apr 4, 10:37*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:43*pm, harry wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Any "dopey pillock" who thinks anyone can go out and buy Asulox is
living in another world.
It is only available to professionals and is available in 5-litre
pack, which will treat 1/2 to 1 hectare, the cost is £90.
To purchase it you must have the relevant certificates, and preferably
a holding Number.
You then have to have the correct protective clothing and a suitable
sprayer.
For the amateur it is easier to use Glyphosate in July, bruising the
bracken before spraying and adding a few drops of washing up liquid to
the mix makes it more efficient, it will take a couple of years to do
the job, but at least you are legal.

You are talking ********. I have bought is in various places, no
questions asked. Vast quantities are use in hill farm areas. Can be
used in knapsack sprayer, tractor srayer or aerial.

On Apr 4, 7:57*pm, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 04/04/2011 19:43, harry wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

Firstly, it is not approved for amateur use. *Secondly, there have been
moves to ban it for professional use, but it may survive:http://www.nfus.org.uk/news/2011/mar...m-ban-reprieve

--

Jeff

There is no substitute available. It won't be banned, half our hill
farm would disappear in a decade without it.

On 05/04/2011 09:14, Sacha wrote:
On 2011-04-05 08:19:55 +0100, harry said:

On Apr 4, 10:37 pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:43 pm, harry wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Any "dopey pillock" who thinks anyone can go out and buy Asulox is
living in another world.
It is only available to professionals and is available in 5-litre
pack, which will treat 1/2 to 1 hectare, the cost is £90.
To purchase it you must have the relevant certificates, and preferably
a holding Number.
You then have to have the correct protective clothing and a suitable
sprayer.
For the amateur it is easier to use Glyphosate in July, bruising the
bracken before spraying and adding a few drops of washing up liquid to
the mix makes it more efficient, it will take a couple of years to do
the job, but at least you are legal.

You are talking ********. I have bought is in various places, no
questions asked. Vast quantities are use in hill farm areas. Can be
used in knapsack sprayer, tractor srayer or aerial.

I wouldn't touch it with a sterilised bargepole. Reading about it online
is enough to put anyone off if they care even slightly for their own
environment, never mind the larger one. Someone *in favour* of its
retention said "He said the decision reflected the fact that while the
scientific risk assessment for Asulam does reveal ‘major environmental
concerns’ with regards to its effect on birds and non-target terrestrial
plants, ‘the commercial reality is that we need more time to fully
develop alternatives for bracken control’."
http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/.../37723.article


NB
"major environmental concerns"

Bracken is a major environmental concern. It turns areas into
monoculture, and is carcinogenic to cattle. It is uncertain as to its
carcinogenic capability in humans.

I guess that it's a question of balance. Which would be considered
worse in a particular situation - bracken or Asulam?

--

Jeff

On Apr 5, 8:16*am, harry wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:55*pm, Stewart Robert Hinsley
wrote:





In message
,
harry writes

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

Is Asulox available for retail sale?
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

You need to go to a farmer's/agricultural merchant to get it. Five
litre containers to dilute down.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Any retailer selling this sort of product to the general public is
laying himself open to prosecution

In article a651cf6f-6e98-482c-bdbc-
, says...

On Apr 4, 10:37*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:43*pm, harry wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

You are talking ********. I have bought is in various places, no
questions askedVast quantities are use in hill farm areas.

If you really had a clue about Asulox, you'd know that it was
designated for total EU withdrawal in mid-March 2011. Three weeks ago it
was given a temporary reprieve; but it's pretty certain that withdrawal
will still happen in the near future making it a banned substance (for
farm use or any other).

One of the pressures for withdrawal of agricultural pest and
herbicides, is their illegal and/or feckless abuse by ignorant domestic
hobby users who flagrantly disregard manufacturers instructions and all
the regulations laid down to protect waterways, aquatic life, and drinking
water supplies.

Janet

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

Have you never heard the word "organic"?
The "dopey pillcks" on GQT to whom you refer try to give organic
solutions to problems.
Given this dodgy chemical you advise and Chris's pulling method, I
know which I'd use, but of course not if I had a hillside of it. Then
I'd call in professionals.

Pam in Bristol

On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:48:42 +0100, Janet wrote:

In article a651cf6f-6e98-482c-bdbc-
, says...

On Apr 4, 10:37*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:43*pm, harry wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

You are talking ********. I have bought is in various places, no
questions askedVast quantities are use in hill farm areas.

If you really had a clue about Asulox, you'd know that it was
designated for total EU withdrawal in mid-March 2011. Three weeks ago it
was given a temporary reprieve; but it's pretty certain that withdrawal
will still happen in the near future making it a banned substance (for
farm use or any other).

One of the pressures for withdrawal of agricultural pest and
herbicides, is their illegal and/or feckless abuse by ignorant domestic
hobby users who flagrantly disregard manufacturers instructions and all
the regulations laid down to protect waterways, aquatic life, and drinking
water supplies.

Hey, it's a man thing. Real Men dine off endangered species deep-fried
in saturated fat and don't need no steenkin' castrating Euronannies
telling them not to stir herbicides with their bare hands. Harry's up
for a Darwin Award: you should be proud to know him.

--
Mike.

On Apr 5, 2:26*pm, Pam Moore wrote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.

The answer is simple.
Go out and buy "Asulox".
Spray in July (there is little/no apparent effect).
Next year, no bracken grows.

Simples. What's wrong with these dopey pillocks?
It's been out for twenty years to my knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asulox

Have you never heard the word "organic"?
The "dopey pillcks" on GQT to whom you refer try to give organic
solutions to problems.
Given this dodgy chemical you advise and Chris's pulling method, I
know which I'd use, but of course not if I had a hillside of it. *Then
I'd call in professionals. *

Pam in Bristol

Organic ********. If agriculture was organic the world would be
starving.
Organic foods are for dopey middle class women with nothing else to
worry about.
Get a life. Without herbicides/insecticides most of the world would be
dead. I expect you want to ban modern medicine and drugs unless they
are organic?
Get in the real world, nitwit.
The "professionals" would use asulox.

On Apr 5, 10:48*am, Janet wrote:
In article a651cf6f-6e98-482c-bdbc-
, says...



On Apr 4, 10:37*pm, Dave Hill wrote:
On Apr 4, 7:43*pm, harry wrote:

The question of how to get rid of this comes up frequently on
Gardeners Question time (Radio).
It amazes me how ignorant these so-called "experts" come up with crap
about mowing and FK what else.
You are talking ********. *I have bought is in various places, no
questions askedVast quantities are use in hill farm areas.

* * * If you really had a clue about Asulox, you'd know that it was
designated for total EU withdrawal in mid-March 2011. Three weeks ago it
was given a temporary reprieve; but it's pretty certain that withdrawal
will still happen in the near future making it a banned substance (for
farm use or any other).

* * * *One of the pressures for withdrawal of agricultural pest and
herbicides, is their illegal and/or feckless abuse by ignorant domestic
hobby users who flagrantly disregard manufacturers *instructions and all
the regulations laid down to protect waterways, aquatic life, and drinking
water supplies.

* * * *Janet

The instructions are there on the container for everyone to read.
Only a stupid cow jumps to the conclusions that I or anyone else is
distregarding the instructions.
If there is bracken in the catchment area of your drinking water you
are in fact at a higher risk of cancer.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/scien...300237,00.html
So why not get your facts right before shouting your silly mouth off.