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I came across an escape evergreen climber this afternoon.
Plant growing to 3 m or more, foliage alternate, shortly petiolate, blades ovate-lanceolate (broadest near the base, 5-7 cm long, 1.5-2 cm wide), shallowly cordate, acuminate. I think that it may be a Lonicera. Does it ring any bells with anyone. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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On 28/01/2011 19:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
I came across an escape evergreen climber this afternoon. Plant growing to 3 m or more, foliage alternate, shortly petiolate, blades ovate-lanceolate (broadest near the base, 5-7 cm long, 1.5-2 cm wide), shallowly cordate, acuminate. I think that it may be a Lonicera. Does it ring any bells with anyone. According to the RHS Dictionary of Gardening, Lonicera leaves are opposite, not alternate. Could it possibly be a Passiflora, which for some reason has yet to develop its typically lobed leaves? -- Jeff |
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In message , Jeff Layman
writes On 28/01/2011 19:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: I came across an escape evergreen climber this afternoon. Plant growing to 3 m or more, foliage alternate, shortly petiolate, blades ovate-lanceolate (broadest near the base, 5-7 cm long, 1.5-2 cm wide), shallowly cordate, acuminate. I think that it may be a Lonicera. Does it ring any bells with anyone. According to the RHS Dictionary of Gardening, Lonicera leaves are opposite, not alternate. Sorry. Thinko on my part. I meant to write "opposite". Could it possibly be a Passiflora, which for some reason has yet to develop its typically lobed leaves? -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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In message , lannerman
writes Stewart Robert Hinsley;911368 Wrote: I came across an escape evergreen climber this afternoon. Plant growing to 3 m or more, foliage alternate, shortly petiolate, blades ovate-lanceolate (broadest near the base, 5-7 cm long, 1.5-2 cm wide), shallowly cordate, acuminate. I think that it may be a Lonicera. Does it ring any bells with anyone. -- Stewart Robert Hinsley Just a thought, the first thing that jumped into my head was Clematis armandii ?? just a thought !! Lannerman It's a better match than I would have expected for a clematis, but Clematis armandii has ternate leaves, while this plant had simple, rather than compound leaves. (And opposite leaves, rather than the alternative leaves that I mistyped.) -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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On 29/01/2011 08:00, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
In message , Jeff Layman writes On 28/01/2011 19:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: I came across an escape evergreen climber this afternoon. Plant growing to 3 m or more, foliage alternate, shortly petiolate, blades ovate-lanceolate (broadest near the base, 5-7 cm long, 1.5-2 cm wide), shallowly cordate, acuminate. I think that it may be a Lonicera. Does it ring any bells with anyone. According to the RHS Dictionary of Gardening, Lonicera leaves are opposite, not alternate. Sorry. Thinko on my part. I meant to write "opposite". Heh - a "Thinko" - I like it! Assuming everything else in your OP is accurate, I had a look through all the Lonicera entries in the RHSDoG. There are more than a dozen entries for scandent species which are said to be evergreen or semi-evergreen (I have assume that where not stated, the plant is deciduous, which is the usual practice in the DoG). Eliminating any plants of Zone 8 and worse hardiness, the most likely candidates would be henryi and japonica. I have excluded sempervirens as the leaves are much rounder than you describe. I would tend to go for henryi. There are a few other much rarer species which might fit the bill, but unless there is a botanic garden or lonicera enthusiast nearby, I can't see it being one of those. Of course, the above excludes hybrids and cultivars. Best of luck if you want to include those too... -- Jeff |
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In message , Jeff Layman
writes On 29/01/2011 08:00, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: In message , Jeff Layman writes On 28/01/2011 19:58, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote: I came across an escape evergreen climber this afternoon. Plant growing to 3 m or more, foliage alternate, shortly petiolate, blades ovate-lanceolate (broadest near the base, 5-7 cm long, 1.5-2 cm wide), shallowly cordate, acuminate. I think that it may be a Lonicera. Does it ring any bells with anyone. According to the RHS Dictionary of Gardening, Lonicera leaves are opposite, not alternate. Sorry. Thinko on my part. I meant to write "opposite". Heh - a "Thinko" - I like it! Assuming everything else in your OP is accurate, I had a look through all the Lonicera entries in the RHSDoG. There are more than a dozen entries for scandent species which are said to be evergreen or semi-evergreen (I have assume that where not stated, the plant is deciduous, which is the usual practice in the DoG). Eliminating any plants of Zone 8 and worse hardiness, the most likely candidates would be henryi and japonica. I have excluded sempervirens as the leaves are much rounder than you describe. I would tend to go for henryi. There are a few other much rarer species which might fit the bill, but unless there is a botanic garden or lonicera enthusiast nearby, I can't see it being one of those. Of course, the above excludes hybrids and cultivars. Best of luck if you want to include those too... Lonicera henryi seems quite plausible. (That would make it 7 species of Lonicera I've found "in the wild"). Now I have to remember to take a look in June or July, to be sure that it's not something completely different. Thanks. [If Lonicera japonica is the plant I think it is - with flowers which are dead ringers for Lonicera periclymenum, but axillary rather than terminal - it's leaves are too broad, not to mention the tendency for a degree of lobing - I omitted "unlobed, margin entire" from the description. I didn't get close enough to tell whether the leaves were ciliate, as per Hillier.] -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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On 29/01/2011 13:42, Stewart Robert Hinsley wrote:
(snip) [If Lonicera japonica is the plant I think it is - with flowers which are dead ringers for Lonicera periclymenum, but axillary rather than terminal - it's leaves are too broad, not to mention the tendency for a degree of lobing - I omitted "unlobed, margin entire" from the description. I didn't get close enough to tell whether the leaves were ciliate, as per Hillier.] I agree that it is unlikely to be L. japonica. -- Jeff |
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