A small tree peony of our died, but from that spot a year later an
herbaceous peony grew. This year it flowered and it looked like it might be
a species having simple flowers. Do some nurseries graft Tree Peonies onto
herbaceous stock and how?

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
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A small tree peony of our died, but from that spot a year later an
herbaceous peony grew. This year it flowered and it looked like it
might be a species having simple flowers. Do some nurseries graft
Tree Peonies onto herbaceous stock and how?

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London







Yes, at least cultivars are, it's not meant to be permanent, tree
peonies are not fully graft compatible with the herbaceous ones. It's
just a nurse graft to keep the scion going until it establishes it's
own roots. I wonder if you followed the normal planting rules and set
it with the soil level below the union? For nurse grafted plants you
need the scion to be in the soil.
Species are usually seedlings on their own roots.

--
Rod

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"Rod" wrote ...
"Bob Hobden" wrote
A small tree peony of our died, but from that spot a year later an
herbaceous peony grew. This year it flowered and it looked like it might
be a species having simple flowers. Do some nurseries graft Tree Peonies
onto herbaceous stock and how?


Yes, at least cultivars are, it's not meant to be permanent, tree peonies
are not fully graft compatible with the herbaceous ones. It's just a nurse
graft to keep the scion going until it establishes it's own roots. I
wonder if you followed the normal planting rules and set it with the soil
level below the union? For nurse grafted plants you need the scion to be
in the soil.
Species are usually seedlings on their own roots.

Yes, I planted it properly, the tree peony flowered for a few years but
didn't seem to grow much, never looked healthy, then it just seemed to give
up and slowly die. Eventually I was able to pull the dead shoots out of the
ground and there was no sign of any roots.
Any idea which species herbaceous peony they use for grafting?

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

On 24 Aug, 22:59, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Rod" *wrote ... "Bob Hobden" *wrote
A small tree peony of our died, but from that spot a year later an
herbaceous peony grew. This year it flowered and it looked like it might
be a species having simple flowers. Do some nurseries graft Tree Peonies
onto herbaceous stock and how?

Yes, at least cultivars are, it's not meant to be permanent, tree peonies
are not fully graft compatible with the herbaceous ones. It's just a nurse
graft to keep the scion going until it establishes it's own roots. I
wonder if you followed the normal planting rules and set it with the soil
level below the union? For nurse grafted plants you need the scion to be
in the soil.
Species are usually seedlings on their own roots.

Yes, I planted it properly, the tree peony flowered for a few years but
didn't seem to grow much, never looked healthy, then it just seemed to give
up and slowly die. Eventually I was able to pull the dead shoots out of the
ground and there was no sign of any roots.
Any idea which species herbaceous peony they use for grafting?

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

No, sorry - it's not something I've ever done in anger. I just came
across it at some point during one of my nursery practice courses.
Most of my commercial propagation was with woody plants.

Rod

"Rod" wrote in message
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On 24 Aug, 22:59, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Rod" wrote ... "Bob Hobden" wrote
A small tree peony of our died, but from that spot a year later an
herbaceous peony grew. This year it flowered and it looked like it might
be a species having simple flowers. Do some nurseries graft Tree Peonies
onto herbaceous stock and how?

Yes, at least cultivars are, it's not meant to be permanent, tree
peonies
are not fully graft compatible with the herbaceous ones. It's just a
nurse
graft to keep the scion going until it establishes it's own roots. I
wonder if you followed the normal planting rules and set it with the
soil
level below the union? For nurse grafted plants you need the scion to be
in the soil.
Species are usually seedlings on their own roots.

Yes, I planted it properly, the tree peony flowered for a few years but
didn't seem to grow much, never looked healthy, then it just seemed to
give
up and slowly die. Eventually I was able to pull the dead shoots out of
the
ground and there was no sign of any roots.
Any idea which species herbaceous peony they use for grafting?

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

No, sorry - it's not something I've ever done in anger. I just came
across it at some point during one of my nursery practice courses.
Most of my commercial propagation was with woody plants.

I'm fascinated by this thread. I was given several tree peony seeds some
years ago by a nice man at a garden centre (it was the end of the season),
and they grew and are now planted in our garden and come up every spring on
the peony bushes as lots of small dark red flowers. I didn't know they had
to be grafted.

someone

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"Rod" wrote in message
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On 24 Aug, 22:59, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Rod" wrote ... "Bob Hobden" wrote
A small tree peony of our died, but from that spot a year later an
herbaceous peony grew. This year it flowered and it looked like it might
be a species having simple flowers. Do some nurseries graft Tree Peonies
onto herbaceous stock and how?

Yes, at least cultivars are, it's not meant to be permanent, tree
peonies
are not fully graft compatible with the herbaceous ones. It's just a
nurse
graft to keep the scion going until it establishes it's own roots. I
wonder if you followed the normal planting rules and set it with the
soil
level below the union? For nurse grafted plants you need the scion to be
in the soil.
Species are usually seedlings on their own roots.

Yes, I planted it properly, the tree peony flowered for a few years but
didn't seem to grow much, never looked healthy, then it just seemed to
give
up and slowly die. Eventually I was able to pull the dead shoots out of
the
ground and there was no sign of any roots.
Any idea which species herbaceous peony they use for grafting?

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London

No, sorry - it's not something I've ever done in anger. I just came
across it at some point during one of my nursery practice courses.
Most of my commercial propagation was with woody plants.

I'm fascinated by this thread. I was given several tree peony seeds some
years ago by a nice man at a garden centre (it was the end of the season),
and they grew and are now planted in our garden and come up every spring on
the peony bushes as lots of small dark red flowers. I didn't know they had
to be grafted.

someone



The species tree peonies don't have to be grafted and two are quite easy
from seed P. lutea and Peony delavayi which has small deep red and highly
scented flowers (there are others but you dont come across them as often)
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea