For detailed information on this newsgroup you are recommended to
read the charter for uk.rec.gardening at:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.gardening.html

There are a number of FAQ files (answers to Frequently Asked
Questions) which have been put together by the contributors
to this group and are available at:

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/urgfaqs.htm

If you are new to this group and have a particular question you
want to ask, do take a look at the FAQs first to see if your
question has been covered. The FAQs will usually give a more
comprehensive answer than is possible in a newsgroup article.

Now a little more information about the aims of uk.rec.gardening,
which we would ask you to read whether you are new to newsgroups
or an old hand. Note particularly the request not to post photographs.

Uk.rec.gardening is based in the British Isles for the discussion
of gardening within those islands. Some here are quite experienced
gardeners, others are (or were when they first joined urg) complete
beginners. It is an unmoderated self-help group and is not owned or
dominated by anyone.

If you are a newcomer (newbie) or a "lurker" (someone who reads but
has so far not posted anything), you are invited to introduce
yourself (though don't make it a reply to this thread - start a new
thread). Please do not feel any obligation to do this, but telling us
a little about yourself and, roughly, where you live, will help those
trying to answer your questions to give the best advice. Don't be
afraid of asking a question that you may fear is naive - remember,
we were all beginners once!

Sometimes people feel a little disappointed when they don't get an
answer to a question. There may be several reasons for this, the most
common ones being (1) no-one has the answer, (2) you didn't give a
clue in the subject header what your question was about, and (3) for
some reason the message did not get through. The best thing in the
last situation is to post the message once more. Urglers do try to
respond to new posters and no-one is deliberately ignored.

You may be puzzled by references to "urg" and "urglers". It's simply
an acronym and means this newsgroup and contributors to it!

Contributors from outside the British Isles are not discouraged but,
because this newsgroup is intended to help gardeners in the British
Isles, it should be remembered that all questions and answers should
relate to a climate similar to that found in the British Isles. We
thank you for your cooperation in this.

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but be sure that you have kept enough in to make it intelligible!

(3) Think out what you want to say and try to make it as concise as
possible. A long message in a busy newsgroup runs the risk of losing the
attention of readers.

Thank you for reading this and we hope that you will find
uk.rec.gardening a very helpful forum.

AriesVal wrote:
On Saturday, 02 May 2009 00:29:01 +000, sysop wrote:

There are a number of FAQ files (answers to Frequently Asked
Questions) which have been put together by the contributors
to this group and are available at:

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/urgfaqs.htm

Sadly, many of the links on that page are not working

Yes I didn't like to say.

On Sat, 2 May 2009 AriesVal wrote:

There are a number of FAQ files (answers to Frequently Asked
Questions) which have been put together by the contributors
to this group and are available at:

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/urgfaqs.htm

Sadly, many of the links on that page are not working

In fact I seem to remember that those that don't work point to Chunky's
web site. When Chunky's system went down I changed the URL to Cormaic's
because at least some of his pages worked.

Is the urgring still active?

It really needs someone who could take this over. Has anyone got copies
of any of the old FAQs?

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://www.mesnil.demon.co.uk

I'm re-posting this as I think that some people have a filter on the abc
so that they don't see it each week. Forgive me if you've seen it
before.

On Sat, 2 May 2009 David Rance wrote:

On Sat, 2 May 2009 AriesVal wrote:

There are a number of FAQ files (answers to Frequently Asked
Questions) which have been put together by the contributors
to this group and are available at:

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/urgfaqs.htm

Sadly, many of the links on that page are not working

In fact I seem to remember that those that don't work point to Chunky's
web site. When Chunky's system went down I changed the URL to Cormaic's
because at least some of his pages worked.

Is the urgring still active?

It really needs someone who could take this over. Has anyone got copies
of any of the old FAQs?

David


--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://www.mesnil.demon.co.uk

I've just done a quick look at Cormaic's list of FAQ files and those
that are in the left hand column, i.e. those on his own site, are still
available. Those in the right hand column are mostly on Chunky's old
site (nugget.demon.co.uk) which doesn't exist any more. There are a
couple of other sites referenced and they don't exist either!

Hope that has been helpful!

Anyhow, the FAQs that are missing a

Carrot Fly by Ron Lowe
Compost by Mike Loughlin
Pot Potato by Ron Lowe
Potatoes by Phil Cooper
Garden Shredders by Kevin Rolph
Watering by Trish
Nettle Manure by Alan Gould
Organic Compost by Alan Gould
Making a Start by Alan Gould
Organic Gardening by Alan Gould
Garden Beans by Alan Gould
Suppliers and References FAQ
by Chris French

Unfortunately I don't think that any of the above authors read here any
more but does anyone know how to contact them?

Lastly, I see that Cormaic has transferred his web site to
www.u-r-g.co.uk. Though he doesn't have time to look in on urg these
days he obviously is still interested in us because he registered
u-r-g.co.uk only a few weeks ago! Did anyone know about this? I'll have
to change the reference in the abc file, though the old one still works.

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://www.mesnil.demon.co.uk

On 2009-05-02 09:28:28 +0100, David Rance
said:

On Sat, 2 May 2009 AriesVal wrote:

There are a number of FAQ files (answers to Frequently Asked
Questions) which have been put together by the contributors
to this group and are available at:

http://www.tmac.clara.co.uk/urgring/urgfaqs.htm

Sadly, many of the links on that page are not working

In fact I seem to remember that those that don't work point to Chunky's
web site. When Chunky's system went down I changed the URL to Cormaic's
because at least some of his pages worked.

Is the urgring still active?

It really needs someone who could take this over. Has anyone got copies
of any of the old FAQs?

David

Cormaic would like someone else to take it over and run it 'sensibly'. ;-)

--
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon

David Rance writes
Lastly, I see that Cormaic has transferred his web site to
www.u-r-g.co.uk. Though he doesn't have time to look in on urg these
days he obviously is still interested in us because he registered
u-r-g.co.uk only a few weeks ago! Did anyone know about this? I'll have
to change the reference in the abc file, though the old one still works.


At Cormaic's request I posted to this effect a few weeks ago. Obviously
not everyone read that post!
--
Kay

On Sat, 2 May 2009 K wrote:

Lastly, I see that Cormaic has transferred his web site to
www.u-r-g.co.uk. Though he doesn't have time to look in on urg these
days he obviously is still interested in us because he registered
u-r-g.co.uk only a few weeks ago! Did anyone know about this? I'll
have to change the reference in the abc file, though the old one still works.

At Cormaic's request I posted to this effect a few weeks ago. Obviously
not everyone read that post!

Oops! no, I didn't see it. I know I don't post much here but I skim
through the headers most days and read an article only if it seems to
hold something useful to me. I rarely have any information that others
don't already know!

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://www.mesnil.demon.co.uk

David Rance writes
On Sat, 2 May 2009 K wrote:

Lastly, I see that Cormaic has transferred his web site to
www.u-r-g.co.uk. Though he doesn't have time to look in on urg these
days he obviously is still interested in us because he registered
u-r-g.co.uk only a few weeks ago! Did anyone know about this? I'll
have to change the reference in the abc file, though the old one still works.

At Cormaic's request I posted to this effect a few weeks ago.
Obviously not everyone read that post!

Oops! no, I didn't see it. I know I don't post much here but I skim
through the headers most days and read an article only if it seems to
hold something useful to me.

I thought you'd probably KF-ed me ;-)

I rarely have any information that others don't already know!

You do! You're one of the people I read with attention
--
Kay

On Sun, 3 May 2009 K wrote:

Lastly, I see that Cormaic has transferred his web site to
www.u-r-g.co.uk. Though he doesn't have time to look in on urg these
days he obviously is still interested in us because he registered
u-r-g.co.uk only a few weeks ago! Did anyone know about this? I'll
have to change the reference in the abc file, though the old one still works.

At Cormaic's request I posted to this effect a few weeks ago.
Obviously not everyone read that post!

Oops! no, I didn't see it. I know I don't post much here but I skim
through the headers most days and read an article only if it seems to
hold something useful to me.

I thought you'd probably KF-ed me ;-)

No, I don't kill-file anyone. Not even Mike (hello, sailor!) Crowe.

I rarely have any information that others don't already know!

You do! You're one of the people I read with attention

You're the second person from urg to flatter me within twenty-four
hours! What's going on......?

David

--
David Rance writing from Caversham, Reading, UK
http://www.mesnil.demon.co.uk

On 2009-05-03 11:43:27 +0100, David Rance
said:

On Sun, 3 May 2009 K wrote:

Lastly, I see that Cormaic has transferred his web site to
www.u-r-g.co.uk. Though he doesn't have time to look in on urg these
days he obviously is still interested in us because he registered
u-r-g.co.uk only a few weeks ago! Did anyone know about this? I'll have
to change the reference in the abc file, though the old one still works.

At Cormaic's request I posted to this effect a few weeks ago. Obviously
not everyone read that post!

Oops! no, I didn't see it. I know I don't post much here but I skim
through the headers most days and read an article only if it seems to
hold something useful to me.

I thought you'd probably KF-ed me ;-)

No, I don't kill-file anyone. Not even Mike (hello, sailor!) Crowe.

I rarely have any information that others don't already know!

You do! You're one of the people I read with attention

You're the second person from urg to flatter me within twenty-four
hours! What's going on......?

David

It's a conspiracy.... ;-))
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Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
Exotic plants, shrubs & perennials
South Devon