"Pete C" wrote in message
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Aries wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:52:42 -0000, Ophelia wrote:

At the risk of repeating myself... thank you saved

Welcome In fact if you're interested I've taken some pics to show
how we do ours
http://ariesval.110mb.com/Frames2/
Have you seen the price of checken wire!?
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You could always knit your own.
mark

mark wrote:
"Pete C" wrote in message
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Aries wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:52:42 -0000, Ophelia wrote:

At the risk of repeating myself... thank you saved

Welcome In fact if you're interested I've taken some pics to
show how we do ours
http://ariesval.110mb.com/Frames2/
Have you seen the price of checken wire!?
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You could always knit your own.
mark

lol

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from "mark" contains these words:

My local chemist who I have known for years won't sell me oxalic acid
(which I want to use for bleaching old linen and cotton fabrics) because
it's no longer permitted. It used to be, in the days when we were
treated
as adults.


I think it has more to do with restricting chemicals which can be used for
homemade explosives.

Oxalic acid can't.

And I don't notice any restriction in buying flour, sugar etc.

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
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The message
from "Jeff Layman" contains these words:

/chemicals/

That's where I got mine. I also got a lot of things (in bulk) which sent
local chemists into a tizz - Spirits of salt, and various other
chemicals - potassium dichromate, oxalic acid, oh, and lots more.

But were these sent to a business address or simply a personal home address?

Neither - I went and collected them in my car.


You can go and get fuming spirits of salt from hardware shops - assuming
you go in wearing yer long trousis...

Oh yes - I was amazed when conc hydrochloric acid ("Spirits of salt")
reappeared after many years of absence, and absolutely dumbfounded
when conc
sulphuric acid appeared as a drain unblocker. I expect this was an EC
ruling.

Dunno - I've often had a use for oleum (Conc. Sulphuric acid) caustic
soda, spirits of salt, spirits of nitre (conc. nitric) certain cyanides,
and still have, for most.

But that only seems to apply to the UK. An acquaintance in France who
like growing Proteaceae has trouble with an very alkaline water supply.
His solution is to acidify it with dilute nitric acid, which he makes
from the containers of umpteen litres of concentrated nitric acid he
buys! Try doing
that over here.

I don't think there'd be a problem if you bought it in bulk from a
distributer - just from a chemist. I had the devil's own job to persuade
a chemist he could sell me a fluid ounce of diethyl ether, so long as it
had the correct label. In the end he looked it up (so he could show me i
was wrong) and - oops!

Now if you were to ask for sulphuric acid as well as the nitric, and a
certain sugar derivative, you might find your collar being felt.

I doubt it, but if the delivery van parked on a double yellow line, the
judges black cap might come out!

Sulphuric, nitric, and the certain sugar derivative all purchased at the
same time would attract a swat-squad like - ahem! - er - jam attracts
wasps.

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Rusty
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
Direct reply to: horrid dot squeak snailything zetnet point co period uk

"TheScullster" wrote in message
news
Hi all

I know this is a recurring theme on this group - methods for repelling our
feline "friends".
Was wondering whether repeated chase-outs actually result in the offending
creature learning that a garden is a no-go-zone.
If so, what level of deterrent is necessary?
Simple chasing out at high speed whenever they are sighted
Chasing and soft missiles - e.g. wet mud
Catapult with hard missiles
Well directed water (I'm considering one of those high powered kids water
gun things ATM)

From what I've read in this group, the retail concoctions and electronic
gizmos aren't worth bothering with.
Hence the list of measures above.
Not interested in replies from cat lovers unless they solve the problem of
cats cr@pping in my veg patch.


I've really enjoyed this thread, thank you for starting it :-)

Re cats: There are a lot of council sites for recycling stuff, and if you
go to one of these and find old refrigerators or freezers that are going
who-knows-where to be recycled for their CFCs or whatever, well, they
usually have lots of wire racks/shelves in them. I have gathered about 50
of these over the years, including some that are 3-dimensional (i.e.
cuboid)(probably came from a freezer), and when I sow my veg patch I strew
these racks about over the seeds until the plants are tall enough to fend
for themselves. So the garden looks pretty naff for a month or so, but by
then the plants have grown up and the cat won't want to go there and you can
remove them. The cuboid-ish one I use to protect my nepeta plant
from...cats.

Your other alternative is to get a cat or two yourself, they never crap in
their own garden and they will keep other cats out.

someone

On Mar 17, 10:43*pm, "someone" wrote:

Your other alternative is to get a cat or two yourself, they never crap in
their own garden and they will keep other cats out.

I regret to inform you that neither of those statements is really
true. Your local branch of Cat Protection always has lots of cats
looking for good homes but though you should enjoy the companionship
and the vermit free environment you must be prepared for some small
drawbacks too.

Hi there,this one really does work.Try spraying "Jeyes" fluid on the area where the cats are crapping.It worked on my garden.first remove cat s**t and spray.Use it neat or dilute very slightly.

Hey! Thats a great list!
We continue to use a high power water hose and soak the little dearies. It doesnt put them off permanently, but I love seeing them jump when the water hits! Of course, all cat lovers (which I once was) think they're little Tiddles doesnt s**t in anyones garden. Cat urine kills plants and dont let 'em tell you otherwise, not to mention the obnoxious stench from the borders.

On Mar 18, 6:11*pm, denden wrote:

Hi there,this one really does work.Try spraying "Jeyes" fluid on the
area where the cats are crapping.It worked on my garden.first remove
cat s**t and spray.Use it neat or dilute very slightly.

I'll bet it gives a real tang to your rhubarb too!

"moghouse" wrote in message
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On Mar 17, 10:43 pm, "someone" wrote:

Your other alternative is to get a cat or two yourself, they never crap in
their own garden and they will keep other cats out.

I regret to inform you that neither of those statements is really
true. Your local branch of Cat Protection always has lots of cats
looking for good homes but though you should enjoy the companionship
and the vermit free environment you must be prepared for some small
drawbacks too.

Yes. Like the gooey remains of a sucked and sorry mouse, carefully placed
to encounter your bare foot if you need to get up in the night :-}

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Kathy

It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider.

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:29:50 -0000, "Kathy" wrote:



"moghouse" wrote in message
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On Mar 17, 10:43 pm, "someone" wrote:

Your other alternative is to get a cat or two yourself, they never crap
in
their own garden and they will keep other cats out.

I regret to inform you that neither of those statements is really
true. Your local branch of Cat Protection always has lots of cats
looking for good homes but though you should enjoy the companionship
and the vermit free environment you must be prepared for some small
drawbacks too.

Yes. Like the gooey remains of a sucked and sorry mouse, carefully placed
to encounter your bare foot if you need to get up in the night :-}

A bright green very dead frog from the neighbours pond on your pillow?

Never had the pleasure. But my sister - in - law opened her door to a
complete stranger carrying a bucket containing a very large goldfish.
His cat had brought it home, alive, and enquiries amongst the neighbours had
led him to discover they were the only people with a pond big enough for it
to have come from! It lived for six more years.

--
Kathy

It's pointless to try and discuss ethics with a spider.

On Mar 18, 11:29*pm, "Kathy" wrote:

................. you must be prepared for some small
drawbacks too.

Yes. *Like the gooey remains of a sucked and sorry mouse, carefully placed
to encounter your bare foot if you need to get up in the night :-}

Hey, that's really poetic, have you been published?

moghouse wrote:
On Mar 18, 11:29 pm, "Kathy" wrote:

................. you must be prepared for some small
drawbacks too.

Yes. Like the gooey remains of a sucked and sorry mouse, carefully
placed to encounter your bare foot if you need to get up in the
night :-}

Hey, that's really poetic, have you been published?

lol

A simple way to keep the cats out of your yard is with chilly pepper.
Sprinkle chilly pepper around in your beds. They don't like the smell
and will leave it alone.


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Dymphna
Message Origin: TRAVEL.com

On Mar 19, 1:46*pm, "Ophelia" wrote:

Yes. Like the gooey remains of a sucked and sorry mouse, carefully
placed to encounter your bare foot if you need to get up in the
night :-}

Hey, that's really poetic, have you been published?

lol

You may think that's funny, but many years ago when I was the editor
of a magazine, I had a poem submitted to me called "The Romance of
Sunlight on the Body of a Dead Bird".

Yes, of course I published it!