I know there is little chance of doing much in the garden at present
so we are reduced to talking about the weather but....

I am old and I feel the cold (always have) but it seems to me that thw
winters are no where near as cold as they used to be. I don't go along
with all that Global warming nonsense, so what has happened? Perhaps I
have fetched up in that precious part of the country where the weather
is nearly always good? Perhaps the food I eat is better and I am
better insulated. Perhaps the clothes I wear afford better protection,
though a fleece does not seem to equate to the sheepshin and leather I
used to wear in years gone by. Perhaps it is that central heating but
then surely it would seem colder when I go outside?

My earliest memories of cold weather were standing outside the village
school in the war, crying because I was so cold, waiting for the
teacher to arrive and let us in - no caretakers to light the boiler in
those days, in fact no boiler just a pot bellied stove that didn't
warm the place up until lunchtime. In February 1947 we moved from the
country to a town and the snow was way over my head and took weeks to
melt. A few years later I sat my 11 plus exam on a day when it was too
cold to hold the pencil properly and the frozen bottles of school milk
were put on the stove to melt. Happy days - kids today don't know
they're born.

Having said all that, I am a southern softy but the winters seem quite
mild to me now by comparison with the past.

"moghouse" wrote in message
...
I know there is little chance of doing much in the garden at present
so we are reduced to talking about the weather but....

Having said all that, I am a southern softy but the winters seem quite
mild to me now by comparison with the past.

I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we have just
entered a colder cycle.

Mike

On 13/2/09 12:25, in article
, "Muddymike"
wrote:


"moghouse" wrote in message
...
I know there is little chance of doing much in the garden at present
so we are reduced to talking about the weather but....

Having said all that, I am a southern softy but the winters seem quite
mild to me now by comparison with the past.

I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we have just
entered a colder cycle.

Mike


I don't dismiss global warming but otoh, Ray, who thinks it's all rather
over-hyped, reminds me from time to time that the Romans grew grapes in
Yorkshire. What he doesn't pronounce upon is what the wine was like! ;-)
Do you really think we've entered a different cycle now? As a child in the
50s I remember occasional freak weather when e.g. the snow was so bad on
Dartmoor bales of hay were airlifted to the ponies and there was flooding in
various places. Perhaps it just is good old freaky British weather?

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
Perennials & shrubs online

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 13/2/09 12:25, in article
, "Muddymike"
wrote:


"moghouse" wrote in message
...
I know there is little chance of doing much in the garden at present
so we are reduced to talking about the weather but....

Having said all that, I am a southern softy but the winters seem quite
mild to me now by comparison with the past.

I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we have
just
entered a colder cycle.

Mike


I don't dismiss global warming but otoh, Ray, who thinks it's all rather
over-hyped, reminds me from time to time that the Romans grew grapes in
Yorkshire. What he doesn't pronounce upon is what the wine was like! ;-)
Do you really think we've entered a different cycle now? As a child in
the
50s I remember occasional freak weather when e.g. the snow was so bad on
Dartmoor bales of hay were airlifted to the ponies and there was flooding
in
various places. Perhaps it just is good old freaky British weather?


Charles Dickens has much to answer for on peoples expectations of British
winter weather. The years (mid 1800s) he was writing coincided with a series
of cold snowbound winters.

Mike

On Feb 13, 1:08*pm, "Muddymike" wrote:

Charles Dickens has much to answer for on peoples expectations of British
winter weather. The years (mid 1800s) he was writing coincided with a series
of cold snowbound winters.


Sorry, I can't remember the 1850s with any clarity!

"moghouse" wrote in message
...
On Feb 13, 1:08 pm, "Muddymike" wrote:

Charles Dickens has much to answer for on peoples expectations of British
winter weather. The years (mid 1800s) he was writing coincided with a
series
of cold snowbound winters.


Sorry, I can't remember the 1850s with any clarity!

Bloody youngsters :-)

Mike

"Martin" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:25:48 -0000, "Muddymike"

wrote:


"moghouse" wrote in message
...
I know there is little chance of doing much in the garden at present
so we are reduced to talking about the weather but....

Having said all that, I am a southern softy but the winters seem quite
mild to me now by comparison with the past.

I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we have
just
entered a colder cycle.

When we entered a warmer cycle this became climate change. When we entered
a
cold cycle in the early 1960s this was also claimed to be climate change
and
the beginning of a new ice age.
--

That's just governments using it to think of new ways to tax us.

Mike

On Feb 13, 12:25*pm, "Muddymike" wrote:
"moghouse" wrote in message

I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we have just
entered a colder cycle.

Thank you, that explains everything. Then I was on my cycle now I go
around in a big warm car!

I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we have just
entered a colder cycle.

Thank you, that explains everything. Then I was on my cycle now I go
around in a big warm car!

with a tartan blanket?

....and a hot nurse on either side!

On 13 Feb, 20:43, moghouse wrote:
I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we have just
entered a colder cycle.

Thank you, that explains everything. Then I was on my cycle now I go
around in a big warm car!

with a tartan blanket?

...and a hot nurse on either side!

I fail to see why with a tart an blanket you would need 2 nurses.

But with the winters geting a lot warmer than they were when I was
young and living in the SE of England here in South Wales there has
been more snow than my neighbour who is almost 80 can remember,
David Hill

"Dave Hill" wrote in message
...
On 13 Feb, 20:43, moghouse wrote:
I believe it is all about cycles of weather patterns, and that we
have just
entered a colder cycle.

Thank you, that explains everything. Then I was on my cycle now I go
around in a big warm car!

with a tartan blanket?

...and a hot nurse on either side!

I fail to see why with a tart an blanket you would need 2 nurses.

But with the winters geting a lot warmer than they were when I was
young and living in the SE of England here in South Wales there has
been more snow than my neighbour who is almost 80 can remember,
David Hill

Oh, that's just amnesia. Agreed, that we've been missing decent snows for
a long while. But I left South Wales in 1980 and I still remember the snows
of 1963 and 1971-2

On Feb 13, 3:10*pm, "Muddymike" wrote:
"moghouse" wrote in message

...
On Feb 13, 1:08 pm, "Muddymike" wrote:



Charles Dickens has much to answer for on peoples expectations of British
winter weather. The years (mid 1800s) he was writing coincided with a
series
of cold snowbound winters.

Sorry, I can't remember the 1850s with any clarity!

Bloody youngsters :-)

Mike

I hear 'twas rather chilly across mainland Europe chilly in 1709