I'm a great admirer of Carol's enthusiasm and her knowledge and
experience, but am getting a BIT annoyed at the CONSTANT and
unnecessary inflections in HER voice. I'm sure it must be something to
do with the producers, hoping she'll appeal to a wider and younger
audience, but it belittles her intelligence imho, making her look like
a young schoolgirl asking for some treat or other.

Anyone agree, and sorry if you've already discussed many times in the
last few years.

Regards.

richardroo.

Quite agree, for presentation give me Rachal De Thame and Chris Beardshaw, it's a pleasure to listen to them. Still at least she's got rid of the wacky hair colours.

"Roo" wrote in message
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I'm a great admirer of Carol's enthusiasm and her knowledge and
experience, but am getting a BIT annoyed at the CONSTANT and
unnecessary inflections in HER voice. I'm sure it must be something to
do with the producers, hoping she'll appeal to a wider and younger
audience, but it belittles her intelligence imho, making her look like
a young schoolgirl asking for some treat or other.

Anyone agree, and sorry if you've already discussed many times in the
last few years.

Regards.

richardroo.

I find it distracting rather than truly annoying, but her knowledge twinned
with that enthusiasm persuades me to forgive her. I understand what you
mean, though.

Spider

....
I'm a great admirer of Carol's enthusiasm and her knowledge and
experience, but am getting a BIT annoyed at the CONSTANT and
unnecessary inflections in HER voice. I'm sure it must be something to
do with the producers, hoping she'll appeal to a wider and younger
audience, but it belittles her intelligence imho, making her look like
a young schoolgirl asking for some treat or other.

Anyone agree, and sorry if you've already discussed many times in the
last few years.

Regards.

richardroo.

I find it distracting rather than truly annoying, but her knowledge
twinned with that enthusiasm persuades me to forgive her. I understand
what you mean, though.

Spider


I have never thought anything of it until you posted your thoughts
richardroo, it could not matter less, that is just the way she is and I
like her. I bet we all have some odd quirk that no one tells us about or
perhaps they do :-)

kate

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I'm a great admirer of Carol's enthusiasm and her knowledge and
experience, but am getting a BIT annoyed at the CONSTANT and
unnecessary inflections in HER voice. I'm sure it must be something to
do with the producers, hoping she'll appeal to a wider and younger
audience, but it belittles her intelligence imho, making her look like
a young schoolgirl asking for some treat or other.

Anyone agree, and sorry if you've already discussed many times in the
last few years.


Huh! I have to reach for the off-switch every time Robert Peston is on
the talking box. He sounds like Ken Clarke in overdrive.

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I'm a great admirer of Carol's enthusiasm and her knowledge and
experience, but am getting a BIT annoyed at the CONSTANT and
unnecessary inflections in HER voice. I'm sure it must be something to
do with the producers, hoping she'll appeal to a wider and younger
audience, but it belittles her intelligence imho, making her look like
a young schoolgirl asking for some treat or other.

Anyone agree, and sorry if you've already discussed many times in the
last few years.

Regards.

richardroo.

I find it distracting rather than truly annoying, but her knowledge
twinned with that enthusiasm persuades me to forgive her. I understand
what you mean, though.

Spider


I have never thought anything of it until you posted your thoughts
richardroo, it could not matter less, that is just the way she is and I
like her. I bet we all have some odd quirk that no one tells us about or
perhaps they do :-)

Well, that's good - but I've never heard of her.

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I'm delighted to read this post because I really DON'T like Ms Klein.

I find her voice grating, her accent annoying, her appearance ingratiating (silly fluttering of eyelashes looking up into camera) and I wish they'd replace her.

The final straw for me was her pronounciation of Hee-mer-OCK-a-lees.

Flying in the face of public opinion, I also didn't care for Monty Don very much - what happened to his eyebrows?

Finally, I've gone off the other bloke, Joe someone: in my opinion he's turning into a garden version of Jamie Oliver with his mock norf Lunndunn lispy accent, and his horrible turns of phrase.

I appreciate that they can't bring back Alan Titchmarsh (shame, shame) but I hope that they'll try some different faces. Perhaps then I can go back to watching it.

Oh, and does anyone else feel a bit Sarah Raven-ed out? When she first came on the show, I thought she was wonderful: big girl, not chosen for her looks, sensible country wellies and comfy clothes, keen and easy to listen to. However, after a year or two of reading her articles in GW mag and the Telegraph, every thing she says is followed by "these flowers available from S R cutting garden" or "this course now being run by S R cutting garden" or "this tool marketed by S R cutting garden" and it's all starting to feel like one big plug for her commercial enterprises.

There, I'm done now.

"Rachel Aitch" wrote in message
...

I'm delighted to read this post because I really DON'T like Ms Klein.

I find her voice grating, her accent annoying, her appearance
ingratiating (silly fluttering of eyelashes looking up into camera) and
I wish they'd replace her.

The final straw for me was her pronounciation of Hee-mer-OCK-a-lees.

Flying in the face of public opinion, I also didn't care for Monty Don
very much - what happened to his eyebrows?

Finally, I've gone off the other bloke, Joe someone: in my opinion he's
turning into a garden version of Jamie Oliver with his mock norf
Lunndunn lispy accent, and his horrible turns of phrase.

I appreciate that they can't bring back Alan Titchmarsh (shame, shame)
but I hope that they'll try some different faces. Perhaps then I can go
back to watching it.

Oh, and does anyone else feel a bit Sarah Raven-ed out? When she first
came on the show, I thought she was wonderful: big girl, not chosen for
her looks, sensible country wellies and comfy clothes, keen and easy to
listen to. However, after a year or two of reading her articles in GW
mag and the Telegraph, every thing she says is followed by "these
flowers available from S R cutting garden" or "this course now being
run by S R cutting garden" or "this tool marketed by S R cutting
garden" and it's all starting to feel like one big plug for her
commercial enterprises.

There, I'm done now.

Rachel Aitch

I've never really taken to Joe Swift, either. It's not the lisp, or the
accent; he seems too flippant and airy-fairy. In fact the Husband Thingy
thinks he's limp-wristed - not a good trait in a gardener. Sarah Raven is,
as you say, becoming too commercial for her own good, but I could listen to
her voice all day. She used to be a GP, and that's easy to imagine: her
voice is very down-to-earth-soothing- you know-it's-good for-you. It's the
only bit of her I like.

I saw a recent GW prog with Toby Buckland and would like to see more of him
before I make up my mind, but he's definitely got potential. Bob Flowerdew
might be an interesting contender, but we don't see enough of him. Chris
Beardshaw is improving, maturing, but he's still too pretty and far too
clean. He's also too design orientated; I appreciate design, but I'd prefer
a presenter with more in-depth plant knowledge.

What really bugs me is the way the powers-that-be abandon our GW whenever
there's a prom concert, football match or other sporting event waiting to be
slotted into the schedule. It makes me spit cobwebs!

Spider

On 5/8/08 14:11, in article , "Spider"
wrote:


"Rachel Aitch" wrote in message
...

I'm delighted to read this post because I really DON'T like Ms Klein.

I find her voice grating, her accent annoying, her appearance
ingratiating (silly fluttering of eyelashes looking up into camera) and
I wish they'd replace her.

The final straw for me was her pronounciation of Hee-mer-OCK-a-lees.

Flying in the face of public opinion, I also didn't care for Monty Don
very much - what happened to his eyebrows?

Finally, I've gone off the other bloke, Joe someone: in my opinion he's
turning into a garden version of Jamie Oliver with his mock norf
Lunndunn lispy accent, and his horrible turns of phrase.

I appreciate that they can't bring back Alan Titchmarsh (shame, shame)
but I hope that they'll try some different faces. Perhaps then I can go
back to watching it.

Oh, and does anyone else feel a bit Sarah Raven-ed out? When she first
came on the show, I thought she was wonderful: big girl, not chosen for
her looks, sensible country wellies and comfy clothes, keen and easy to
listen to. However, after a year or two of reading her articles in GW
mag and the Telegraph, every thing she says is followed by "these
flowers available from S R cutting garden" or "this course now being
run by S R cutting garden" or "this tool marketed by S R cutting
garden" and it's all starting to feel like one big plug for her
commercial enterprises.

There, I'm done now.

Rachel Aitch

I've never really taken to Joe Swift, either. It's not the lisp, or the
accent; he seems too flippant and airy-fairy. In fact the Husband Thingy
thinks he's limp-wristed - not a good trait in a gardener. Sarah Raven is,
as you say, becoming too commercial for her own good, but I could listen to
her voice all day. She used to be a GP, and that's easy to imagine: her
voice is very down-to-earth-soothing- you know-it's-good for-you. It's the
only bit of her I like.

Her husband's grandmother was Vita Sackville-West and I've heard people say
that Sarah dresses as she does as a sort of 'homage' to Vita S-W. ;-)

snip

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Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 5/8/08 14:11, in article , "Spider"
wrote:


"Rachel Aitch" wrote in message
...

I'm delighted to read this post because I really DON'T like Ms Klein.

I find her voice grating, her accent annoying, her appearance
ingratiating (silly fluttering of eyelashes looking up into camera) and
I wish they'd replace her.

The final straw for me was her pronounciation of Hee-mer-OCK-a-lees.

Flying in the face of public opinion, I also didn't care for Monty Don
very much - what happened to his eyebrows?

Finally, I've gone off the other bloke, Joe someone: in my opinion he's
turning into a garden version of Jamie Oliver with his mock norf
Lunndunn lispy accent, and his horrible turns of phrase.

I appreciate that they can't bring back Alan Titchmarsh (shame, shame)
but I hope that they'll try some different faces. Perhaps then I can go
back to watching it.

Oh, and does anyone else feel a bit Sarah Raven-ed out? When she first
came on the show, I thought she was wonderful: big girl, not chosen for
her looks, sensible country wellies and comfy clothes, keen and easy to
listen to. However, after a year or two of reading her articles in GW
mag and the Telegraph, every thing she says is followed by "these
flowers available from S R cutting garden" or "this course now being
run by S R cutting garden" or "this tool marketed by S R cutting
garden" and it's all starting to feel like one big plug for her
commercial enterprises.

There, I'm done now.

Rachel Aitch

I've never really taken to Joe Swift, either. It's not the lisp, or the
accent; he seems too flippant and airy-fairy. In fact the Husband Thingy
thinks he's limp-wristed - not a good trait in a gardener. Sarah Raven
is,
as you say, becoming too commercial for her own good, but I could listen
to
her voice all day. She used to be a GP, and that's easy to imagine: her
voice is very down-to-earth-soothing- you know-it's-good for-you. It's
the
only bit of her I like.

Her husband's grandmother was Vita Sackville-West and I've heard people
say
that Sarah dresses as she does as a sort of 'homage' to Vita S-W. ;-)

snip

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


How interesting! However, I can't say SR's dress sense does anything for
me, however Sackville-westesque it may be. I suspect VS-W's wardrobe
contained longer robes than SR's! However, she may have gardened in
something more masculine - given her, er, persuasion. :~)

Spider

On 7/8/08 12:48, in article , "Spider"
wrote:
snip
Sarah Raven
is,
as you say, becoming too commercial for her own good, but I could listen
to
her voice all day. She used to be a GP, and that's easy to imagine: her
voice is very down-to-earth-soothing- you know-it's-good for-you. It's
the
only bit of her I like.

Her husband's grandmother was Vita Sackville-West and I've heard people
say
that Sarah dresses as she does as a sort of 'homage' to Vita S-W. ;-)

snip

How interesting! However, I can't say SR's dress sense does anything for
me, however Sackville-westesque it may be. I suspect VS-W's wardrobe
contained longer robes than SR's! However, she may have gardened in
something more masculine - given her, er, persuasion. :~)

Spider


Jodphurs come to mind for some reason! I think it's the boots that are
particularly similar - if that makes sense.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

On 7/8/08 14:27, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:24:40 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 7/8/08 12:48, in article , "Spider"
wrote:
snip
Sarah Raven
is,
as you say, becoming too commercial for her own good, but I could listen
to
her voice all day. She used to be a GP, and that's easy to imagine: her
voice is very down-to-earth-soothing- you know-it's-good for-you. It's
the
only bit of her I like.

Her husband's grandmother was Vita Sackville-West and I've heard people
say
that Sarah dresses as she does as a sort of 'homage' to Vita S-W. ;-)

snip

How interesting! However, I can't say SR's dress sense does anything for
me, however Sackville-westesque it may be. I suspect VS-W's wardrobe
contained longer robes than SR's! However, she may have gardened in
something more masculine - given her, er, persuasion. :~)

Spider


Jodphurs come to mind for some reason! I think it's the boots that are
particularly similar - if that makes sense.

Mitford jack boots for stamping on the slugs?

Hang on - the Mitfords don't come into this. Do they?!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
On 7/8/08 12:48, in article , "Spider"
wrote:
snip
Sarah Raven
is,
as you say, becoming too commercial for her own good, but I could
listen
to
her voice all day. She used to be a GP, and that's easy to imagine:
her
voice is very down-to-earth-soothing- you know-it's-good for-you. It's
the
only bit of her I like.

Her husband's grandmother was Vita Sackville-West and I've heard people
say
that Sarah dresses as she does as a sort of 'homage' to Vita S-W. ;-)

snip

How interesting! However, I can't say SR's dress sense does anything
for
me, however Sackville-westesque it may be. I suspect VS-W's wardrobe
contained longer robes than SR's! However, she may have gardened in
something more masculine - given her, er, persuasion. :~)

Spider


Jodphurs come to mind for some reason! I think it's the boots that are
particularly similar - if that makes sense.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon


It would if I were a horsey person! I assume they're kinky boots .. or can
you wear them back to front?! {:~)

Sorry, I don't get out much!

Spider

What a great improvement over the last couple of weeks, she is much more relaxed and natural and without the over emphasis almost a pleasure to watch her now.

"Granity ;807271']I'm a great admirer of Carol's enthusiasm and her
knowledge
and
experience, but am getting a BIT annoyed at the CONSTANT and
unnecessary inflections in HER voice. I'm sure it must be something to
do with the producers, hoping she'll appeal to a wider and younger
audience, but it belittles her intelligence imho, making her look like
a young schoolgirl asking for some treat or other.

Anyone agree, and sorry if you've already discussed many times in the
last few years.

Regards.

richardroo.

What a great improvement over the last couple of weeks, she is much
more relaxed and natural and without the over emphasis almost a
pleasure to watch her now.

I would be happy to have Carol visit my garden because she would encourage
rather than put down an/or belittle

kate