Hi all

Have received planning permission for a fence but it has to be screened by
plants.
Can I buy hedge plants at this time of year?
I am considering Escallonia, Ceanothus, Pittosporum, Hebe, Cotoneaster,
Photinia etc

TIA

Phil

On 19/6/08 13:41, in article
, "TheScullster"
wrote:

Hi all

Have received planning permission for a fence but it has to be screened by
plants.
Can I buy hedge plants at this time of year?
I am considering Escallonia, Ceanothus, Pittosporum, Hebe, Cotoneaster,
Photinia etc


You can buy container grown plants at any time of year and right now they'll
get off to a good start as the soil has warmed up. But if you want to buy
bare root plants you need to wait until autumn. They're not lifted until
their leaves have fallen.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)

"Sacha" wrote

You can buy container grown plants at any time of year and right now
they'll
get off to a good start as the soil has warmed up. But if you want to buy
bare root plants you need to wait until autumn. They're not lifted until
their leaves have fallen.

--
Sacha

Thanks Sacha

Phil

On 19/6/08 16:54, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:47:55 +0100, "TheScullster"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote

You can buy container grown plants at any time of year and right now
they'll
get off to a good start as the soil has warmed up. But if you want to buy
bare root plants you need to wait until autumn. They're not lifted until
their leaves have fallen.

--
Sacha

Thanks Sacha

IME They cost much more in pots than when sold with bare roots.

Definitely. But they'll be bigger plants. And of course, it depends on how
soon the OP wants to see some results.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)

On 19/6/08 17:33, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:09:59 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 19/6/08 16:54, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:47:55 +0100, "TheScullster"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote

You can buy container grown plants at any time of year and right now
they'll
get off to a good start as the soil has warmed up. But if you want to buy
bare root plants you need to wait until autumn. They're not lifted until
their leaves have fallen.

--
Sacha

Thanks Sacha

IME They cost much more in pots than when sold with bare roots.

Definitely. But they'll be bigger plants. And of course, it depends on how
soon the OP wants to see some results.

and from our experience it might work out cheaper per surviving plant and at
least the buyer can tell the difference between copper beech, beech and
hornbeam, when the plants have their leaves. I try to understand why Dutch
garden centres manage to mix up their plants so much.

No idea as to the last bit. Ours come in in bundles and are displayed as
such but there's no compulsion to buy a whole bundle! Forgive me, but you
sound a bit disillusioned! If buying container grown or bare root plants
from a reputable company - and there are some in UK who specialise in
hedging - there should be no problem as long as the ground is well prepared
and the new hedge is well-watered. Bare root is certainly cheaper but
ultimately, it depends on what the customer wants in terms of waiting for
developments or having a bit of instant cover. I'm in my 60s so I'd
probably go for container grown. If I were in my 30s and pretty sure I'd be
staying in a house for a goodish time, I'd go for bare root.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)

On 19/6/08 23:35, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:07:16 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 19/6/08 17:33, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:09:59 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 19/6/08 16:54, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:47:55 +0100, "TheScullster"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote

You can buy container grown plants at any time of year and right now
they'll
get off to a good start as the soil has warmed up. But if you want to
buy
bare root plants you need to wait until autumn. They're not lifted
until
their leaves have fallen.

--
Sacha

Thanks Sacha

IME They cost much more in pots than when sold with bare roots.

Definitely. But they'll be bigger plants. And of course, it depends on
how
soon the OP wants to see some results.

and from our experience it might work out cheaper per surviving plant and at
least the buyer can tell the difference between copper beech, beech and
hornbeam, when the plants have their leaves. I try to understand why Dutch
garden centres manage to mix up their plants so much.

No idea as to the last bit. Ours come in in bundles and are displayed as
such but there's no compulsion to buy a whole bundle!

If one wants to grow a whole hedge one needs to buy a reasonable number.

A reputable nursery or specialist should help the customer work out what
they need. But I must say that quite often customers do come to buy hedging
and we ask them how long is the hedge going to be and it turns out they
haven't measured it!

Forgive me, but you
sound a bit disillusioned!

)

If buying container grown or bare root plants
from a reputable company - and there are some in UK who specialise in
hedging - there should be no problem as long as the ground is well prepared
and the new hedge is well-watered. Bare root is certainly cheaper but
ultimately, it depends on what the customer wants in terms of waiting for
developments or having a bit of instant cover. I'm in my 60s so I'd
probably go for container grown. If I were in my 30s and pretty sure I'd be
staying in a house for a goodish time, I'd go for bare root.

It's 30 years since we first tried to plant a new hedge and we are almost
there,
other than the variety of plants that make up the hedge isn't what we planned.

Yes, I remember you telling me that you'd been rather 'palmed off' with
stuff that wasn't what you expected.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon
(new website online but not completed - shop to come and some mild tweaking
to do!)

On Jun 20, 9:42 am, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:24:45 +0100, Sacha wrote:
On 19/6/08 23:35, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:07:16 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 19/6/08 17:33, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:09:59 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 19/6/08 16:54, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:47:55 +0100, "TheScullster"
wrote:

"Sacha" wrote

You can buy container grown plants at any time of year and right now
they'll
get off to a good start as the soil has warmed up. But if you want to
buy
bare root plants you need to wait until autumn. They're not lifted
until
their leaves have fallen.

--
Sacha

Thanks Sacha

IME They cost much more in pots than when sold with bare roots.

Definitely. But they'll be bigger plants. And of course, it depends on
how
soon the OP wants to see some results.

and from our experience it might work out cheaper per surviving plant and at
least the buyer can tell the difference between copper beech, beech and
hornbeam, when the plants have their leaves. I try to understand why Dutch
garden centres manage to mix up their plants so much.

No idea as to the last bit. Ours come in in bundles and are displayed as
such but there's no compulsion to buy a whole bundle!

If one wants to grow a whole hedge one needs to buy a reasonable number.

A reputable nursery or specialist should help the customer work out what
they need. But I must say that quite often customers do come to buy hedging
and we ask them how long is the hedge going to be and it turns out they
haven't measured it!

There seemed to be disagreement here about the planting density needed to make a
good hedge.





Forgive me, but you
sound a bit disillusioned!

)

If buying container grown or bare root plants
from a reputable company - and there are some in UK who specialise in
hedging - there should be no problem as long as the ground is well prepared
and the new hedge is well-watered. Bare root is certainly cheaper but
ultimately, it depends on what the customer wants in terms of waiting for
developments or having a bit of instant cover. I'm in my 60s so I'd
probably go for container grown. If I were in my 30s and pretty sure I'd be
staying in a house for a goodish time, I'd go for bare root.

It's 30 years since we first tried to plant a new hedge and we are almost
there,
other than the variety of plants that make up the hedge isn't what we planned.

Yes, I remember you telling me that you'd been rather 'palmed off' with
stuff that wasn't what you expected.

and the four beech plants that survived from the 57 that we bought in three
batches of 19 from Bakker in NL. These 4 survivors now turn out to be three
beech and one hornbeam. We are doing much better buying from two other garden
centres other than the copper beech being mixed with ordinary beech plants.
--

Martin

I remember you telling us about the hornbeam, how big is that now?

Judith