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I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton
engine. While cutting the grass last week the engine started to stutter and finally died on me. First thing I checked was the fuel and oil levels which seemed to be ok, then the spark plug which was also ok. Next thing checked was the air filter followed by making sure that the fuel jet beneath it wasn't blocked. Again, all seemed to be in order. Getting desperate, I decided to take off the cylinder head and give both it and the valve seats a good clean up (which they sure needed!). During the rebuild I made up a new head gasket using the old one as a template. All this has achieved SFA. I suspect that the fault is fuel supply related - possibly those two rather flimsy looking springs under the air filter which operate the butterfly valve. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. |
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"teapot" wrote in message ... I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. While cutting the grass last week the engine started to stutter and finally died on me. First thing I checked was the fuel and oil levels which seemed to be ok, then the spark plug which was also ok. Next thing checked was the air filter followed by making sure that the fuel jet beneath it wasn't blocked. Again, all seemed to be in order. Getting desperate, I decided to take off the cylinder head and give both it and the valve seats a good clean up (which they sure needed!). During the rebuild I made up a new head gasket using the old one as a template. All this has achieved SFA. I suspect that the fault is fuel supply related - possibly those two rather flimsy looking springs under the air filter which operate the butterfly valve. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Not done my trick and topped up with the fuel for the chainsaw (2 stroke)? Check if you are getting a good spark at the plug if it had but still not firing it may still be worth changing the plug. its not unknown for them to get tracking.Usually tho when I suspect a plug I pop it on the gas ring for 5 minutes to cook out any hidden fouling obviously if you want to fit it while still hot ( I do) wear thick gloves!. Derek |
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g'day teapot,
never easy trying to suggest things without seeing the machine. could be that there is water in the fuel tank and as the tank got to near empty it was sucked into the carby, or the pipes that pick up the fuel maybe blocked? requires removal of tank/carby assembly and dismantle of carby for clean out, knowledge is needed for reassembly, and you most likley will need a new diaphram on re-assembly, the problem could be the diaphram. unless you know where the springs fit and how and the diaphram and it's componenets this job better left to a mechanic if deemd necessary. any damge to or incorrect installation of those govenor springs will mean the mower won't run as it should. might also mean that the intake valve in particular needs re-gapping, when you ahd the head off and with the intake valve seated did you check to see that you couldn't rotate the valve using finger pressure, or take the valve cover off and using feeler guges check the air gaps should be about 7 thousands of an inch (not sure of the metric measure). if gapping is needed again that requires some expertise. also what was wrong with the original head gasket? head gaskets can be used a number of times, just soak it in hot water while you fiddle around. your homemade gasket may not be the same construction as the original. and as has been said check the spark but if it is a more modern mower then it should have an electronic ignition which if faulty will need replacement usually expensive. and those spark plugs may look ok but that doesn't mean they are working, especially under compression loads in the motor. and air space checking of spark doesn't tell you the strength of the spark, though if it is a blue clour and jumps say 1/4" then it could be considered to be sufficient. if you perservere with home repair might be wise to obtain a service manual, for reference one might be available from your local library or do a google you might get one from online. you will need the engine numbers stamped onto the side of teh engine cowling in most cases. let us know the end result On Thu, 15 May 2008 04:30:22 -0700 (PDT), teapot wrote: snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ |
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, teapot wrote I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. While cutting the grass last week the engine started to stutter and finally died on me. First thing I checked was the fuel and oil levels which seemed to be ok, then the spark plug which was also ok. Next thing checked was the air filter followed by making sure that the fuel jet beneath it wasn't blocked. Again, all seemed to be in order. Getting desperate, I decided to take off the cylinder head and give both it and the valve seats a good clean up (which they sure needed!). During the rebuild I made up a new head gasket using the old one as a template. All this has achieved SFA. I suspect that the fault is fuel supply related - possibly those two rather flimsy looking springs under the air filter which operate the butterfly valve. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. On my mover the gauze fuel filter being almost completely blocked with 'gunk' caused the same problem. Remove the carburettor and the filter will be on the part that pokes into the fuel tank. I pulled off the filter and washed it in clean petrol using a paint brush. Check also the state of the petrol in the fuel tank I also cleaned out some rubbish in the tank (probably emulsified water contamination) with clean petrol. While you have the caberator/petrol tank apart consider replacing the rubber seal between them as this can also perish causing similar problems. -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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teapot wrote:
I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton FWIW I have just had a mower fuel problem that turned out to be caused by 'old' petrol. according to the mower repair shop modern unleaded petrol goes off after approx 12 weeks. Mine had been serviced in the autumn and came to use it two weeks ago filled it up with last years petrol - no water or contaminants - and would start but not run. Apparently this is a common fault and some engines like my Honda are more prone to this than others. |
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On 2008-05-16 10:13:24 +0100, Yuri said:
teapot wrote: I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton FWIW I have just had a mower fuel problem that turned out to be caused by 'old' petrol. according to the mower repair shop modern unleaded petrol goes off after approx 12 weeks. Mine had been serviced in the autumn and came to use it two weeks ago filled it up with last years petrol - no water or contaminants - and would start but not run. Apparently this is a common fault and some engines like my Honda are more prone to this than others. Yup. With my Mountfield petrol mower, every spring I would need to empty out any remaining fuel and replace with fresh, then also take the spark plug out and bake it in the oven for a while. If I didn't do this, there was no way in the world it would start, but with this procedure, it always started on the first pull. |
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:38:47 +0100, adm wrote and
included this (or some of this): On 2008-05-16 10:13:24 +0100, Yuri said: teapot wrote: I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton FWIW I have just had a mower fuel problem that turned out to be caused by 'old' petrol. according to the mower repair shop modern unleaded petrol goes off after approx 12 weeks. Mine had been serviced in the autumn and came to use it two weeks ago filled it up with last years petrol - no water or contaminants - and would start but not run. Apparently this is a common fault and some engines like my Honda are more prone to this than others. Yup. With my Mountfield petrol mower, every spring I would need to empty out any remaining fuel and replace with fresh, then also take the spark plug out and bake it in the oven for a while. If I didn't do this, there was no way in the world it would start, but with this procedure, it always started on the first pull. Whereas with my 10 year-old Hayter (unleaded petrol rotary) it's been left with fuel in the tank every winter. I've never had the plug out and it starts easily in the spring after priming. I give the engine oil a bit of a top up occasionally and that's all the maintenance it gets. Touch wood. -- ®óñ© © ²°¹°-°² |
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On 16 May, 08:10, Alan wrote:
In message , teapot wrote I have aSovereignClassic 35lawnmowerwith a Briggs and Stratton engine. While cutting the grass last week the engine started to.... On my mover the gauze fuel filter being almost completely blocked with 'gunk' caused the same problem. Remove the carburettor and the filter will be on the part that pokes into the fuel tank. I pulled off the filter and washed it in clean petrol using a paint brush. Check also the state of the petrol in the fuel tank *I also cleaned out some rubbish in the tank (probably emulsified water contamination) with clean petrol. While you have the caberator/petrol tank apart consider replacing the rubber seal between them as this can also perish causing similar problems. Thanks for all the responses. I know its not the plug as it works fine in my neighbours mower, but I will follow up your suggestions regarding the fuel system. |
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On 15 May, 12:30, teapot wrote:
I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. While cutting the grass last week the engine started to stutter and finally died on me. First thing I checked was the fuel and oil levels which seemed to be ok, then the spark plug which was also ok. Next thing checked was the air filter followed by making sure that the fuel jet beneath it wasn't blocked. Again, all seemed to be in order. Getting desperate, I decided to take off the cylinder head and give both it and the valve seats a good clean up (which they sure needed!). During the rebuild I made up a new head gasket using the old one as a template. All this has achieved SFA. *I suspect that the fault is fuel supply related - possibly those two rather flimsy looking springs under the air filter which operate the butterfly valve. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Hi - have you ruled out a sticking float. Steve |
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:38:47 +0100, adm wrote:
Yup. With my Mountfield petrol mower, every spring I would need to empty out any remaining fuel and replace with fresh, then also take the spark plug out and bake it in the oven for a while. Did our "lawn" last week. First time the mower had been used since Oct or Nov last year. Checked the oil looked at the plug (but didn't do anything) filled it with petrol from the can last used Oct/Nov. Primed it pulled, nothing, repeat twice and off it went I suspect I didn't prime it enough to refill the chambers in the carb. Bog standard B&S engine, probably what you have on the "Mountfield". It might be a bet more interesting starting the two stroke strimmer, that only got two or three outgings last year and hasn't be used for a lot longer than the mower. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Regarding the same model - the blade drive belt cover of my mower is broken - where do i go for a replacement part?
Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.[/quote] [quote=teapot;791862]I have a Sovereign Classic 35 lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. While cutting the grass last week the engine started to stutter and finally died on me. First thing I checked was the fuel and oil levels which seemed to be ok, then the spark plug which was also ok. Next thing checked was the air filter followed by making sure that the fuel jet beneath it wasn't blocked. Again, all seemed to be in order. Getting desperate, I decided to take off the cylinder head and give both it and the valve seats a good clean up (which they sure needed!). During the rebuild I made up a new head gasket using the old one as a template. All this has achieved SFA. I suspect that the fault is fuel supply related - possibly those two rather flimsy looking springs under the air filter which operate the butterfly valve. |
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Hi, I had a similar problem and I found this dvd that solved this problem, I got a copy on ebay but the website is Repairing Lawn Mowers For Profit - Repairing Lawn Mowers For Profit I've actually made some money doing this as well and I know nothing about repairing lawnmowers. Hope this helps."
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