I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark

In message , Martin
wrote

I can recommend not buying from Bakker a Dutch supplier of dead beech hedging.

Do Bakker actually sell and plants/shrubs now? The catalogues I've had
from them only contain information about free prize draws and about
useless 'tat' as a free gift if you give them some money.

I now recycle Bakker catalogues straight to the compost bin unopened.
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

"Martin" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:59:11 -0000, "Mark"

wrote:

I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

Probably now.


I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

It has to be well drained too.


Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

I can recommend not buying from Bakker a Dutch supplier of dead beech
hedging.

Not all will be a success. If the hedge isn't too big consider planting
double
the recommended density and removing/moving those that are surplus to
requirements when you can see which are growing well.
--

Martin


Martin .................FO

On 30 Dec, 11:21, Martin wrote:
I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

Probably now.
or any time up to the middle of Feb, I suppose. Get plenty of old
humous dug in if you can while the land is clean, and don't plant too
close to the boundary



I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

It has to be well drained too.

Interesting. That may be why it does not do well in this part of the
Fens (clay lands)

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

I would go and find a local nurseryman (not a garden centre, but a
plantsman) who has a lot of stock in. You can't do better than local
advice and a local contact.

On 30 Dec, 10:59, "Mark" wrote:
I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark

You don't say how long a hedge you are planting or how many plants you
are looking for.
Have a look at these people
http://www.buckingham-nurseries.co.u...xHedgeCom.html

David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

"Mark" wrote in message
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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark

I planted a beech hedge last year - all have flourished - none have died. I
bought them from mirrorgardens.co.uk

"Mark" wrote in message
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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark

here's the link
http://www.mirrorgarden.co.uk/Index....h&search=beech

"Mark" wrote in message
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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark


Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark

On 31/12/07 18:05, in article , "Mark"
wrote:


"Mark" wrote in message
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I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark


Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark



I don't understand why you need 100 plants? We sell beech bare-rooted and
recommend 3' between each plant. That's 25 plants. You're talking about
planting them mere inches apart, which seems a bit strange.
Dig a trench, pop them in and keep them well watered if we have any dry
spells.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 31/12/07 23:43, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:13:45 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 31/12/07 18:05, in article , "Mark"
wrote:


"Mark" wrote in message
...
I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark


Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark



I don't understand why you need 100 plants? We sell beech bare-rooted and
recommend 3' between each plant. That's 25 plants. You're talking about
planting them mere inches apart, which seems a bit strange.
Dig a trench, pop them in and keep them well watered if we have any dry
spells.

This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...gclid=CP_y_v7X
05ACFQ6hQwodrnQKXA

I think this must be with some 'instant hedge' idea in mind. It really
isn't necessary. Given time and the proper care, plants planted as I
describe will form as dense a hedge. But if the OP wants to spend the money
that's his choice, of course.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

"Martin" wrote in message
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This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...6hQwo drnQKXA
--

Martin


RHS advice is:



Planting
Planting distances vary from 30-60cm (1-2ft), depending on the plants'
vigor. For hedges thicker than 90cm (3ft) plant a staggered double row 45cm
(18in) apart, with plants 90cm (3ft) apart.



pk

On 1/1/08 10:08, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:35:30 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 31/12/07 23:43, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:13:45 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

On 31/12/07 18:05, in article , "Mark"
wrote:


"Mark" wrote in message
...
I want to plant a new beech hedge. When is the best time?

I am in Norfolk. The soil is sandy.

Also any recomendations for a supplier please.

mark


Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark



I don't understand why you need 100 plants? We sell beech bare-rooted and
recommend 3' between each plant. That's 25 plants. You're talking about
planting them mere inches apart, which seems a bit strange.
Dig a trench, pop them in and keep them well watered if we have any dry
spells.

This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...l?gclid=CP_y_v
7X
05ACFQ6hQwodrnQKXA

I think this must be with some 'instant hedge' idea in mind. It really
isn't necessary. Given time and the proper care, plants planted as I
describe will form as dense a hedge. But if the OP wants to spend the money
that's his choice, of course.

We have ours planted with a similar spacing to that recommended by
hegdesdirect
They make "a dense hedge" and gives one a fighting chance of having a hedge if
not all the plants grow. Even from a good Dutch supplier around 10% failed.

I can only go by what we sell here but at the spacing I quoted, their
branches would already be touching. I'm surprised at a failure rate of 10%
because on checking with Ray, he tells me we've not had anyone coming back
with complaints and he's sold bare-rooted beech hedging for years. Of
course, much will depend on time of year, plants chosen, how they're
planted, soil, careful watering etc. Just as a matter of interest, were
your failures all in one area, or were they dotted about?
Planting densely and staggered is usually done for stock-proof fencing -
perhaps it helps with vandals and nosy neighbours, too!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 1/1/08 15:01, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:
snip
Of the 57 we bought from Bakker 4 survived. I think if they had known they
would
have charged extra for the survivors.

That's really extraordinary. If they were bare-rooted I wonder if they
lifted them too early. Quite often, we we get people getting slightly
impatient because such stock hasn't come in and we have to explain that they
won't be dug up until the leaves have fallen.

Of
course, much will depend on time of year, plants chosen, how they're
planted, soil, careful watering etc. Just as a matter of interest, were
your failures all in one area, or were they dotted about?

They were random within the area planted.

When my wife took them back and asked for the refund that had been promised,
the
guy refused and said she should have returned them immediately. If we had it
wouldn't have given them a chance to come into leaf, nor would we have known
which to take back :-) A typical example of the way the Dutch honour
guarantees.

Not worth the paper, by the sound of it!


Planting densely and staggered is usually done for stock-proof fencing -
perhaps it helps with vandals and nosy neighbours, too!

:-)

Don't talk about obnoxious near neighbours we had our house bombarded with
fireworks for hours yesterday.

We heard a few but at a distance. Today our fireworks have been the crow
scarer!

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Thanks for the replies. I need a 100plnts to do about 75 feet. I'll
investigate the suggested websites now.

mark



I don't understand why you need 100 plants? We sell beech bare-rooted and
recommend 3' between each plant. That's 25 plants. You're talking about
planting them mere inches apart, which seems a bit strange.
Dig a trench, pop them in and keep them well watered if we have any dry
spells.
--
Sacha

I used the calculator on one of the websites suggested. I suppose the site
has a vested interest in exaggerating the number needed. I'll review it. I
thought I'd plant them out in a staggered formation, zig zag.

mark

"PK" wrote in message
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"Martin" wrote in message
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This site gives 20 cm between each plant
http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/acatal...6hQwo drnQKXA
--

Martin


RHS advice is:



Planting
Planting distances vary from 30-60cm (1-2ft), depending on the plants'
vigor. For hedges thicker than 90cm (3ft) plant a staggered double row
45cm (18in) apart, with plants 90cm (3ft) apart.

So how many do I need for a 75 ft hedge?

mark