Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 25 Oct, 20:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

You are not alone. It is a link that I've heard discussed over the
years, particularly in relation to migrane sufferers. It is medically
controversial. I read a study in scientific american, or some such, in
a hotel in New England one snowy day when I could not get to work,
which showed a tiny but measurable incidence. I expect it would be
difficult to reproduce.

The only obvious connection I have thought of is a sinus headache,
where the sinuses are too blocked to allow pressure to equilibrate.
But I am not a doctor, so am probably wrong.

It's never happened to me, but then I have never been seasick either
but that doesn't stop me knowing other people can be! My headaches
appear to be associated with dehydration if they are not a symptom of
an infection.

"Sacha" wrote
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to
be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

Not noticed the Barometric pressure thing myself but then I haven't looked.
Have noticed I seem to get a headache before a Thunder Storm.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
17mls W. of London.UK

On 25/10/07 23:09, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to
be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

Not noticed the Barometric pressure thing myself but then I haven't looked.
Have noticed I seem to get a headache before a Thunder Storm.

Well, surely that's a barometric thing, Bob? I've heard of that with a lot
of people.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 25/10/07 22:40, in article
,
" wrote:

On 25 Oct, 20:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

You are not alone. It is a link that I've heard discussed over the
years, particularly in relation to migrane sufferers. It is medically
controversial. I read a study in scientific american, or some such, in
a hotel in New England one snowy day when I could not get to work,
which showed a tiny but measurable incidence. I expect it would be
difficult to reproduce.

The only obvious connection I have thought of is a sinus headache,
where the sinuses are too blocked to allow pressure to equilibrate.
But I am not a doctor, so am probably wrong.

I have terrible sinuses. You're probably right!

It's never happened to me, but then I have never been seasick either
but that doesn't stop me knowing other people can be! My headaches
appear to be associated with dehydration if they are not a symptom of
an infection.


I think most people get both of those - drink more water/coming down with a
cold, sort of headaches. But mine are too clearly observable to be
coincidence. Nothing awful - certainly not migraine, though once or twice
I've had very mild visual disturbance without any pain at all. Weird.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article om,
says...
On 25 Oct, 20:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

You are not alone. It is a link that I've heard discussed over the
years, particularly in relation to migrane sufferers. It is medically
controversial. I read a study in scientific american, or some such, in
a hotel in New England one snowy day when I could not get to work,
which showed a tiny but measurable incidence. I expect it would be
difficult to reproduce.

The only obvious connection I have thought of is a sinus headache,
where the sinuses are too blocked to allow pressure to equilibrate.
But I am not a doctor, so am probably wrong.

It's never happened to me, but then I have never been seasick either
but that doesn't stop me knowing other people can be! My headaches
appear to be associated with dehydration if they are not a symptom of
an infection.


I have never thought about it, but does barometric pressure effect blood
pressure or the kit they use to measure it? I am lucky enough to almost
never get a headache but one child is a regular sufferer, his seem
inexplicable
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On 26/10/07 10:25, in article ,
"Martin" wrote:

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:14:50 +0100, Sacha
wrote:

On 25/10/07 23:09, in article , "Bob
Hobden" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to
be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

Not noticed the Barometric pressure thing myself but then I haven't looked.
Have noticed I seem to get a headache before a Thunder Storm.

Well, surely that's a barometric thing, Bob? I've heard of that with a lot
of people.

It's a static electricity thing, Sacha.

Really? V. interesting. Can you explain how?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 26/10/07 10:51, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article om,
says...
On 25 Oct, 20:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

You are not alone. It is a link that I've heard discussed over the
years, particularly in relation to migrane sufferers. It is medically
controversial. I read a study in scientific american, or some such, in
a hotel in New England one snowy day when I could not get to work,
which showed a tiny but measurable incidence. I expect it would be
difficult to reproduce.

The only obvious connection I have thought of is a sinus headache,
where the sinuses are too blocked to allow pressure to equilibrate.
But I am not a doctor, so am probably wrong.

It's never happened to me, but then I have never been seasick either
but that doesn't stop me knowing other people can be! My headaches
appear to be associated with dehydration if they are not a symptom of
an infection.


I have never thought about it, but does barometric pressure effect blood
pressure or the kit they use to measure it? I am lucky enough to almost
never get a headache but one child is a regular sufferer, his seem
inexplicable

Obviously you'll have done the eye test stuff but I would strongly recommend
a good chiropractor. Quite often the spine is 'out' without us knowing it.
Or perhaps, we've become so accustomed to it that we don't know it's
happened if there's no pain. I used to become giddy so easily that it
really scared me but once I found a good chiropractor that is - almost - a
thing of the past. My spine's a bit of a mess and always has been but once
it travels to the neck....

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

In article ,
says...
On 26/10/07 10:51, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article om,
says...
On 25 Oct, 20:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

You are not alone. It is a link that I've heard discussed over the
years, particularly in relation to migrane sufferers. It is medically
controversial. I read a study in scientific american, or some such, in
a hotel in New England one snowy day when I could not get to work,
which showed a tiny but measurable incidence. I expect it would be
difficult to reproduce.

The only obvious connection I have thought of is a sinus headache,
where the sinuses are too blocked to allow pressure to equilibrate.
But I am not a doctor, so am probably wrong.

It's never happened to me, but then I have never been seasick either
but that doesn't stop me knowing other people can be! My headaches
appear to be associated with dehydration if they are not a symptom of
an infection.


I have never thought about it, but does barometric pressure effect blood
pressure or the kit they use to measure it? I am lucky enough to almost
never get a headache but one child is a regular sufferer, his seem
inexplicable

Obviously you'll have done the eye test stuff but I would strongly recommend
a good chiropractor. Quite often the spine is 'out' without us knowing it.
Or perhaps, we've become so accustomed to it that we don't know it's
happened if there's no pain. I used to become giddy so easily that it
really scared me but once I found a good chiropractor that is - almost - a
thing of the past. My spine's a bit of a mess and always has been but once
it travels to the neck....


Thats really interesting because just 10 days ago he went to one with a
bad back and after the x-rays it turns out one hip joint is 8mm lower
than the other, may be if they sort that out he will lose the headaches
:~)
This is on topic because he is supposed to be help in the garden but
can't because his back is sore!
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article ,
lid says...
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:01:48 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 26/10/07 10:51, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article om,
says...
On 25 Oct, 20:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

You are not alone. It is a link that I've heard discussed over the
years, particularly in relation to migrane sufferers. It is medically
controversial. I read a study in scientific american, or some such, in
a hotel in New England one snowy day when I could not get to work,
which showed a tiny but measurable incidence. I expect it would be
difficult to reproduce.

The only obvious connection I have thought of is a sinus headache,
where the sinuses are too blocked to allow pressure to equilibrate.
But I am not a doctor, so am probably wrong.

It's never happened to me, but then I have never been seasick either
but that doesn't stop me knowing other people can be! My headaches
appear to be associated with dehydration if they are not a symptom of
an infection.


I have never thought about it, but does barometric pressure effect blood
pressure or the kit they use to measure it? I am lucky enough to almost
never get a headache but one child is a regular sufferer, his seem
inexplicable

Obviously you'll have done the eye test stuff but I would strongly recommend
a good chiropractor. Quite often the spine is 'out' without us knowing it.

If your spine is out I would recommend seeing a qualified doctor.


It was his GP that sent him
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

On 26/10/07 14:01, in article
, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On 26/10/07 10:51, in article ,
"Charlie Pridham" wrote:

In article om,
says...
On 25 Oct, 20:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to
be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

You are not alone. It is a link that I've heard discussed over the
years, particularly in relation to migrane sufferers. It is medically
controversial. I read a study in scientific american, or some such, in
a hotel in New England one snowy day when I could not get to work,
which showed a tiny but measurable incidence. I expect it would be
difficult to reproduce.

The only obvious connection I have thought of is a sinus headache,
where the sinuses are too blocked to allow pressure to equilibrate.
But I am not a doctor, so am probably wrong.

It's never happened to me, but then I have never been seasick either
but that doesn't stop me knowing other people can be! My headaches
appear to be associated with dehydration if they are not a symptom of
an infection.


I have never thought about it, but does barometric pressure effect blood
pressure or the kit they use to measure it? I am lucky enough to almost
never get a headache but one child is a regular sufferer, his seem
inexplicable

Obviously you'll have done the eye test stuff but I would strongly recommend
a good chiropractor. Quite often the spine is 'out' without us knowing it.
Or perhaps, we've become so accustomed to it that we don't know it's
happened if there's no pain. I used to become giddy so easily that it
really scared me but once I found a good chiropractor that is - almost - a
thing of the past. My spine's a bit of a mess and always has been but once
it travels to the neck....


Thats really interesting because just 10 days ago he went to one with a
bad back and after the x-rays it turns out one hip joint is 8mm lower
than the other, may be if they sort that out he will lose the headaches
:~)
This is on topic because he is supposed to be help in the garden but
can't because his back is sore!

It's very on topic because my back and neck stop me doing quite a lot.
Stooping at e.g. dishwasher emptying level, hurts more than a full bend, for
some reason. And at times, just walking or standing for a short length of
time gives lower back pain. My spine isn't straight, not as in scoliosis
but as in tilted and it sounds as if your son's is rather similar. If one
bit of the back is 'out', it sort of travels up the spine, pulling all the
rigging out of whack and creating strains and tensions we're not always
aware of. IIRC, you have quite a bit of back trouble yourself, Charlie?


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

On 26/10/07 14:25, in article
, "Charlie Pridham"
wrote:

In article ,
lid says...
snip

If your spine is out I would recommend seeing a qualified doctor.


It was his GP that sent him

Unless the doctor is specially trained in chiropractic or osteopathy, I
wouldn't let him near my spine. It might be fine to be referred by one but
I've needed chiropractic all my life, since I was 14 because my spine just
isn't 'right' and no doctor has ever wanted to manipulate or adjust it.


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Do you find occasionally, just occasionally, you get a headache on a Tuesday? Must be something about Tuesdays...

Normal variation in pressure at sea-level due to weather, eyes of hurricanes and tornadoes excepted, is roughly from 980 to 1035 mbars, a maximum difference of 5.5%. That's about the same as the change from climbing (or descending) 500m in altitude. I'm unwilling to believe the difference is large enough to promote any medical condition. Having been at high altitude in the Andes for over two months, I descended from 3700m to sea-level in a day (by bicycle), thus experiencing a sudden increase in pressure of over 50% in just a few hours, and I didn't have a headache at the bottom. I would have had a headache if I had done it in reverse so fast, and that would have been due to oxygen deprivation.

What seems more likely is that there is another aspect of the weather that is causing the symptoms. High pressure is generally associated with dry weather, and in winter the humidity would be especially low in cold, dry weather. Dehydration is a known cause of headaches.

On 25 Oct, 12:50, Sacha wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

--
Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Any rapid barometric change tortures me: Raising it
may give me a temporary headache, but if I get outside
into clean air I will rapidly feel MUCH better (often
even better than I did before the pressure increase).
((Nitrogen Narcosis?))

But LOWERING barometric pressure causes problems no
matter how slow the onset. Part of it is bone /
joint / tooth pain (agony) as outgassing occurs.
(Something older Airline Stewardesses are familiar
with: Some airline passengers have even had teeth
explode in rapidly ascending aircraft).

But if I am indoors, I will also have terrible
respiratory problems as every rotten or toxic
airborne contaminant ever absorbed in my apartment
(flat) assails me as it is outgassed back into the
atmosphere due to the dropping pressure.

When I was young I just called it "Sinus Headache"
(which I still get if a pressure-change is rapid,
or I have sinus congestion).

But these older bones and lungs just aren't as
flexible/tolerant anymore. Sometimes I even get
phantom pain in teeth I no longer have, because the
nerves that used to go to those teeth are pinched by
surrounding tissues during a rapid pressure-change.

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"Sacha" wrote
Has anyone else noticed that as the glass rises they sometimes, just
occasionally, get a bit of a headache. It happens to me often enough to
be
aware of it but it seems more obvious in the colder months when we get a
bright starry sky and cold, sunny days. Years ago I mentioned it to a
doctor - not as a worry, just in passing - and he looked at me as if I
was
barking. But I'm sure there's some sort of relationship between one and
the other.

Not noticed the Barometric pressure thing myself but then I haven't
looked. Have noticed I seem to get a headache before a Thunder Storm.

I very rarely get headaches, but then I'm unique aren't I?

Although I must admit some of the posters here give me a headache!(:-)