Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was started by Dr
Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year there was plenty to see and
it is a beautifully constructed garden with large lakes and some very
interesting planting. Personally, I think it's a little 'over-treed' but
that's personal taste. I would recommend it to anyone visiting North Devon
and I hope we can go back again in both spring and mid-summer. They hold
the National Collection of Astilbes and Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20
acres so allow plenty of time.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was started by
Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year there was plenty to
see and it is a beautifully constructed garden with large lakes and
some very interesting planting. Personally, I think it's a little
'over-treed' but that's personal taste. I would recommend it to
anyone visiting North Devon and I hope we can go back again in both
spring and mid-summer. They hold the National Collection of Astilbes
and Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20 acres so allow plenty of time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm will affect
the surroundings when it's built....

On 17/10/07 13:20, in article , "cupra"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was started by
Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year there was plenty to
see and it is a beautifully constructed garden with large lakes and
some very interesting planting. Personally, I think it's a little
'over-treed' but that's personal taste. I would recommend it to
anyone visiting North Devon and I hope we can go back again in both
spring and mid-summer. They hold the National Collection of Astilbes
and Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20 acres so allow plenty of time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm will affect
the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 13:20, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was started by
Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year there was plenty
to see and it is a beautifully constructed garden with large lakes
and some very interesting planting. Personally, I think it's a
little 'over-treed' but that's personal taste. I would recommend
it to anyone visiting North Devon and I hope we can go back again
in both spring and mid-summer. They hold the National Collection
of Astilbes and Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20 acres so allow
plenty of time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm will
affect the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

I suspect the 110m turbines might poke their heads above a little bit

On 17/10/07 14:12, in article , "cupra"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 13:20, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was started by
Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year there was plenty
to see and it is a beautifully constructed garden with large lakes
and some very interesting planting. Personally, I think it's a
little 'over-treed' but that's personal taste. I would recommend
it to anyone visiting North Devon and I hope we can go back again
in both spring and mid-summer. They hold the National Collection
of Astilbes and Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20 acres so allow
plenty of time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm will
affect the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

I suspect the 110m turbines might poke their heads above a little bit



And the red lights are really going to enhance things. Do you really think
the turbines will be seen from there? If so, I think we can only be glad
that Dr Smart isn't there to see it.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 14:12, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 13:20, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was started
by Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year there was
plenty to see and it is a beautifully constructed garden with
large lakes and some very interesting planting. Personally, I
think it's a little 'over-treed' but that's personal taste. I
would recommend it to anyone visiting North Devon and I hope we
can go back again in both spring and mid-summer. They hold the
National Collection of Astilbes and Iris Ensata. The gardens
cover 20 acres so allow plenty of time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm will
affect the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

I suspect the 110m turbines might poke their heads above a little
bit



And the red lights are really going to enhance things. Do you really
think the turbines will be seen from there? If so, I think we can
only be glad that Dr Smart isn't there to see it.

Here's the site map: http://www.devonwindpower.co.uk/siteMap.aspx

On 17/10/07 15:41, in article , "cupra"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 14:12, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 13:20, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was started
by Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year there was
plenty to see and it is a beautifully constructed garden with
large lakes and some very interesting planting. Personally, I
think it's a little 'over-treed' but that's personal taste. I
would recommend it to anyone visiting North Devon and I hope we
can go back again in both spring and mid-summer. They hold the
National Collection of Astilbes and Iris Ensata. The gardens
cover 20 acres so allow plenty of time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm will
affect the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

I suspect the 110m turbines might poke their heads above a little
bit



And the red lights are really going to enhance things. Do you really
think the turbines will be seen from there? If so, I think we can
only be glad that Dr Smart isn't there to see it.

Here's the site map: http://www.devonwindpower.co.uk/siteMap.aspx



Ye gods - that is going to be horrible for MHG. I do wonder how much this
turbine business is going to help. I can't help feeling that while global
resources do need to be husbanded, we're going a bit over the top when we
talk of possibly making people use UHT milk instead of fresh!
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 15:41, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 14:12, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 13:20, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was
started by Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year
there was plenty to see and it is a beautifully constructed
garden with large lakes and some very interesting planting.
Personally, I think it's a little 'over-treed' but that's
personal taste. I would recommend it to anyone visiting North
Devon and I hope we can go back again in both spring and
mid-summer. They hold the National Collection of Astilbes and
Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20 acres so allow plenty of
time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm
will affect the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

I suspect the 110m turbines might poke their heads above a little
bit



And the red lights are really going to enhance things. Do you
really think the turbines will be seen from there? If so, I think
we can only be glad that Dr Smart isn't there to see it.

Here's the site map: http://www.devonwindpower.co.uk/siteMap.aspx



Ye gods - that is going to be horrible for MHG.

Yep - although some people find them aesthetically appealing I can't see how
this will 'improve' this slice of Devon countryside....

I do wonder how much
this turbine business is going to help. I can't help feeling that
while global resources do need to be husbanded, we're going a bit
over the top when we talk of possibly making people use UHT milk
instead of fresh!

Absolutely - they should be concentrating on making people buy more fresh
local veg IMO!

On 17/10/07 17:24, in article , "cupra"
wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 15:41, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 14:12, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 13:20, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was
started by Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year
there was plenty to see and it is a beautifully constructed
garden with large lakes and some very interesting planting.
Personally, I think it's a little 'over-treed' but that's
personal taste. I would recommend it to anyone visiting North
Devon and I hope we can go back again in both spring and
mid-summer. They hold the National Collection of Astilbes and
Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20 acres so allow plenty of
time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm
will affect the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

I suspect the 110m turbines might poke their heads above a little
bit



And the red lights are really going to enhance things. Do you
really think the turbines will be seen from there? If so, I think
we can only be glad that Dr Smart isn't there to see it.

Here's the site map: http://www.devonwindpower.co.uk/siteMap.aspx



Ye gods - that is going to be horrible for MHG.

Yep - although some people find them aesthetically appealing I can't see how
this will 'improve' this slice of Devon countryside....

I do wonder how much
this turbine business is going to help. I can't help feeling that
while global resources do need to be husbanded, we're going a bit
over the top when we talk of possibly making people use UHT milk
instead of fresh!

Absolutely - they should be concentrating on making people buy more fresh
local veg IMO!


My cynical side tells me that a lot of the Green hyperbole is to distract
attention from other and much more immediate dangers such as crime, NHS
disasters and low grade teaching in some schools. It's overtaking all other
'hard' news, it seems to me. I fear that there will be an inertia backlash
and that it might have started already. I'm with you - I agree entirely
that encouraging people to buy local would reduce carbon footprints more
quickly than is, perhaps, imagined. If we don't have giant supermarket
chains importing asparagus from Peru or sweet corn from Thailand, just
imagine what that would do. Upset their shareholders, I suppose.
It is utterly ridiculous to get in a state now about methane produced by
cows in a small place like UK when we've lost 2,000 dairy farms in recent
years and China is building smoke belching factories. Phew. Sorry. 'Off'
switch is operating. ;-) But I will admit that, at times, I do wish the
British showed their disquiet a little more vocally and obviously. Only
this morning in the deli we Devon-dwellers were un-seriously voicing the
need for a little uncivil disobedience. ;-))


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove weeds from address)
'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our
children.'

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 17:24, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 15:41, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 14:12, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
On 17/10/07 13:20, in article ,
"cupra" wrote:

Sacha wrote:
Today we went to this garden - first time for me. It was
started by Dr Smart in the 1940s. Even at this time of year
there was plenty to see and it is a beautifully constructed
garden with large lakes and some very interesting planting.
Personally, I think it's a little 'over-treed' but that's
personal taste. I would recommend it to anyone visiting
North Devon and I hope we can go back again in both spring and
mid-summer. They hold the National Collection of Astilbes and
Iris Ensata. The gardens cover 20 acres so allow plenty of
time.

It is a good day out, isn't it..... I wonder how the wind farm
will affect the surroundings when it's built....


Well, they've got a good shelter belt.......

I suspect the 110m turbines might poke their heads above a little
bit



And the red lights are really going to enhance things. Do you
really think the turbines will be seen from there? If so, I think
we can only be glad that Dr Smart isn't there to see it.

Here's the site map: http://www.devonwindpower.co.uk/siteMap.aspx



Ye gods - that is going to be horrible for MHG.

Yep - although some people find them aesthetically appealing I can't
see how this will 'improve' this slice of Devon countryside....

I do wonder how much
this turbine business is going to help. I can't help feeling that
while global resources do need to be husbanded, we're going a bit
over the top when we talk of possibly making people use UHT milk
instead of fresh!

Absolutely - they should be concentrating on making people buy more
fresh local veg IMO!


My cynical side tells me that a lot of the Green hyperbole is to
distract attention from other and much more immediate dangers such as
crime, NHS disasters and low grade teaching in some schools. It's
overtaking all other 'hard' news, it seems to me.

The problem, as I see it, is that climate change issues are treated
evangelically - dare to make any mutterings in disagreement about any of
the facts/figures, and you're a sinner!

I fear that there
will be an inertia backlash and that it might have started already.
I'm with you - I agree entirely that encouraging people to buy local
would reduce carbon footprints more quickly than is, perhaps,
imagined. If we don't have giant supermarket chains importing
asparagus from Peru or sweet corn from Thailand, just imagine what
that would do. Upset their shareholders, I suppose.

I've just started serious work on my garden after 18months of building
works/DIY and fortunately there's plenty of room in the 100m for fruit/veg,
so I'll be upsetting some supermarkets by lowering at least one families'
fruit/veg turnover!

It is utterly ridiculous to get in a state now about methane produced
by cows in a small place like UK when we've lost 2,000 dairy farms in
recent years and China is building smoke belching factories. Phew.
Sorry. 'Off' switch is operating. ;-) But I will admit that, at
times, I do wish the British showed their disquiet a little more
vocally and obviously. Only this morning in the deli we
Devon-dwellers were un-seriously voicing the need for a little
uncivil disobedience. ;-))

lol!