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herb/weed id please?
I was doing some badly needed weeding in the (rare) sunshine today,
and came across a weed/herb I do not know. It is low growing, with the same type of leaf structure as flat-leaf parsley, only much more delicate. It is a paler shade of green, too, and the leaves closer to the soil can be even paler, nearly white, or a very odd shade of purple. What made me think it could be a herb is that when crushed it smell of licorice/aniseed. I was so enthusiastically weeding I did not take the time to take a pic. I hope my description is enough to identify it? TIA. Cat(h) |
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herb/weed id please?
On 15/7/07 23:04, in article ,
"Cat(h)" wrote: I was doing some badly needed weeding in the (rare) sunshine today, and came across a weed/herb I do not know. It is low growing, with the same type of leaf structure as flat-leaf parsley, only much more delicate. It is a paler shade of green, too, and the leaves closer to the soil can be even paler, nearly white, or a very odd shade of purple. What made me think it could be a herb is that when crushed it smell of licorice/aniseed. I was so enthusiastically weeding I did not take the time to take a pic. I hope my description is enough to identify it? TIA. At a guess, Ligusticum canadense - pretty white flowers. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:16:38 +0100, Sacha
wrote: Ligusticum canadense Thank you for the suggestion, but I just googled it to look up photos and it is definitely not that one. What I am talking about is very delicate fine greenery (it crushes very easily) and quite low growing. I haven't given it a chance to go to flower, so I have no idea what those look like. I found it growing under other plants, at the foot of my dwarf french and broad beans. Cat(h) |
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"Cat(h)" wrote in message ... I was doing some badly needed weeding in the (rare) sunshine today, and came across a weed/herb I do not know. It is low growing, with the same type of leaf structure as flat-leaf parsley, only much more delicate. It is a paler shade of green, too, and the leaves closer to the soil can be even paler, nearly white, or a very odd shade of purple. What made me think it could be a herb is that when crushed it smell of licorice/aniseed. I was so enthusiastically weeding I did not take the time to take a pic. I hope my description is enough to identify it? TIA. Cat(h) Try Achillea, not sure which species but I have a low growing fine grey green leafed weed in my grass that matches your description, has white flowers if left long enough, aromatic but I would not have said aniseed. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
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In article , Anne Jackson
writes I would suggest Sweet Cicely, purely on the smell of aniseed... It's anything but 'low growing' though... Myrrh can be low growing if in poor soil, it can also be crushed easily as the OP suggests and does indeed smell of aniseed so I would also go with sweet Cicely Mine only gets to about a foot in height, though I chop it back once it's flowered. Of course I am assuming it's not Agastache? -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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On Jul 16, 10:24 am, Sacha wrote:
On 16/7/07 08:41, in article , "Charlie Pridham" wrote: "Cat(h)" wrote in message .. . I was doing some badly needed weeding in the (rare) sunshine today, and came across a weed/herb I do not know. It is low growing, with the same type of leaf structure as flat-leaf parsley, only much more delicate. It is a paler shade of green, too, and the leaves closer to the soil can be even paler, nearly white, or a very odd shade of purple. What made me think it could be a herb is that when crushed it smell of licorice/aniseed. I was so enthusiastically weeding I did not take the time to take a pic. I hope my description is enough to identify it? TIA. Cat(h) Try Achillea, not sure which species but I have a low growing fine grey green leafed weed in my grass that matches your description, has white flowers if left long enough, aromatic but I would not have said aniseed. I'm confused now! Original Cat said it is like flat-leaf parsley which Ligusticum resembles but now that it is very fine and delicate. Ligusticum does have the aniseed smell but there is something else that is almost dill like in its leaves but I don't know the name. My other suggestion would be Coltsfoot (Tussilago farfara) -- I'm sorry for being obviously not very gifted at describing the plant. None of the suggestions (having googled photos of same) match my plant. I said it had the same leaf structure as parsley, i.e. a ferny type leaf. However, I also said it was far more delicate, easily crushed/ bruised, very pale green, with some leaves white and even purple close to the ground. I am not sure how tall it would get given the chance - it didn't get the chance. I have to say I had never come across it anywhere until this year in my veg patch. There's only one thing for it: I must try and get a photo of it. If the weather permits next week end, and assuming that I didn't pluck every last bit of it, I'll take a pic and post a link to it. I seem to recall some time back someone posted a website through which one could access a database of photos categorised by shapes/colours etc. to identify plants. Has anyone the url for this? Thanks to all for the collective headscratching :-) Cat(h) |
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On 16/7/07 11:28, in article
, "Cat(h)" wrote: snip I'm sorry for being obviously not very gifted at describing the plant. None of the suggestions (having googled photos of same) match my plant. I think it can be quite hard to describe something like that, because not only is it not a plant everyone will normally take much notice of, everyone 'sees' things slightly differently. I said it had the same leaf structure as parsley, i.e. a ferny type leaf. However, I also said it was far more delicate, easily crushed/ bruised, very pale green, with some leaves white and even purple close to the ground. I am not sure how tall it would get given the chance - it didn't get the chance. I have to say I had never come across it anywhere until this year in my veg patch. There's only one thing for it: I must try and get a photo of it. If the weather permits next week end, and assuming that I didn't pluck every last bit of it, I'll take a pic and post a link to it. I seem to recall some time back someone posted a website through which one could access a database of photos categorised by shapes/colours etc. to identify plants. Has anyone the url for this? Thanks to all for the collective headscratching :-) It's fun to try. ;-) But a photo would certainly do it. There's a site called Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/ -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Jul 16, 11:53 am, Sacha wrote:
On 16/7/07 11:28, in article . com, "Cat(h)" wrote: snip I'm sorry for being obviously not very gifted at describing the plant. None of the suggestions (having googled photos of same) match my plant. I think it can be quite hard to describe something like that, because not only is it not a plant everyone will normally take much notice of, everyone 'sees' things slightly differently. That's a fair comment. Something else just struck me about the smell: before tackling that weed, I had just pulled up a whole pile of tall dill seedlings. Right now, I could not swear whether the smell was the dill lingering on me (which it does), or the actual smell of the plant. Quite apart from the photo, I must test the smell again, now that the dill is all gone. I said it had the same leaf structure as parsley, i.e. a ferny type leaf. However, I also said it was far more delicate, easily crushed/ bruised, very pale green, with some leaves white and even purple close to the ground. I am not sure how tall it would get given the chance - it didn't get the chance. I have to say I had never come across it anywhere until this year in my veg patch. There's only one thing for it: I must try and get a photo of it. If the weather permits next week end, and assuming that I didn't pluck every last bit of it, I'll take a pic and post a link to it. I seem to recall some time back someone posted a website through which one could access a database of photos categorised by shapes/colours etc. to identify plants. Has anyone the url for this? Thanks to all for the collective headscratching :-) It's fun to try. ;-) I guess as much from finding myself looking up those threads almost systematically - even if I can rarely answer the question, and when I'm able to have generally been pipped to it by the more expert posters. But a photo would certainly do it. There's a site called Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/ I'll probably tinypic it - it works for me :-) Thanks again, Cat(h) |
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On 16/7/07 12:15, in article
, "Cat(h)" wrote: On Jul 16, 11:53 am, Sacha wrote: On 16/7/07 11:28, in article . com, "Cat(h)" wrote: snip I'm sorry for being obviously not very gifted at describing the plant. None of the suggestions (having googled photos of same) match my plant. I think it can be quite hard to describe something like that, because not only is it not a plant everyone will normally take much notice of, everyone 'sees' things slightly differently. That's a fair comment. Something else just struck me about the smell: before tackling that weed, I had just pulled up a whole pile of tall dill seedlings. Right now, I could not swear whether the smell was the dill lingering on me (which it does), or the actual smell of the plant. Quite apart from the photo, I must test the smell again, now that the dill is all gone. That could certainly make a difference. It's a fairly 'clingy' smell, IMO. I said it had the same leaf structure as parsley, i.e. a ferny type leaf. However, I also said it was far more delicate, easily crushed/ bruised, very pale green, with some leaves white and even purple close to the ground. snip It's fun to try. ;-) I guess as much from finding myself looking up those threads almost systematically - even if I can rarely answer the question, and when I'm able to have generally been pipped to it by the more expert posters. In trying to find your weed, I learned a lot more about so-called weeds which are in fact edible or medicinal - just goes to show that nothing is ever wasted! But a photo would certainly do it. There's a site called Flickr:http://www.flickr.com/ I'll probably tinypic it - it works for me :-) Thanks again, Cat(h) Looking forward to seeing it. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Jul 16, 1:49 pm, Jennifer Sparkes wrote:
The message from "Cat(h)" contains these words: I was doing some badly needed weeding in the (rare) sunshine today, and came across a weed/herb I do not know. It is low growing, with the same type of leaf structure as flat-leaf parsley, only much more delicate. It is a paler shade of green, too, and the leaves closer to the soil can be even paler, nearly white, or a very odd shade of purple. What made me think it could be a herb is that when crushed it smell of licorice/aniseed. I was so enthusiastically weeding I did not take the time to take a pic. I hope my description is enough to identify it? TIA. Could it be Chervil? Though I think the leaves may be more finely cut than the plant you are describing. Jennifer Do you know, I think you've just cracked it! The photos I can find look remarkably like the stuff I have been pulling from under my beans! Thank you so much! Cat(h) (who will keep whatever more of it shows up) |
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On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, "Cat(h)" wrote:
On Jul 16, 1:49 pm, Jennifer Sparkes wrote: The message from "Cat(h)" contains these words: I was doing some badly needed weeding in the (rare) sunshine today, and came across a weed/herb I do not know. It is low growing, with the same type of leaf structure as flat-leaf parsley, only much more delicate. It is a paler shade of green, too, and the leaves closer to the soil can be even paler, nearly white, or a very odd shade of purple. What made me think it could be a herb is that when crushed it smell of licorice/aniseed. I was so enthusiastically weeding I did not take the time to take a pic. I hope my description is enough to identify it? TIA. Could it be Chervil? Though I think the leaves may be more finely cut than the plant you are describing. Jennifer Do you know, I think you've just cracked it! The photos I can find look remarkably like the stuff I have been pulling from under my beans! Thank you so much! Cat(h) (who will keep whatever more of it shows up)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Definitely Chervil: I read in one of the website that more mature leaves turn a shade of bronze, which I described as purple. Not sure how it ended up in my garden! Thanks again! Cat(h) |
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On 16/7/07 14:18, in article
, "Cat(h)" wrote: snip Definitely Chervil: I read in one of the website that more mature leaves turn a shade of bronze, which I described as purple. Not sure how it ended up in my garden! Thanks again! Cat(h) I'm glad you've found it but if you're pulling up dill and chervil, are you on what used to be somebody's herb garden? That would explain how it ended up there. -- Sacha http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk (remove weeds from address) 'We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.' |
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On Jul 16, 3:48 pm, Sacha wrote:
On 16/7/07 14:18, in article om, "Cat(h)" wrote: snip Definitely Chervil: I read in one of the website that more mature leaves turn a shade of bronze, which I described as purple. Not sure how it ended up in my garden! Thanks again! Cat(h) I'm glad you've found it but if you're pulling up dill and chervil, are you on what used to be somebody's herb garden? That would explain how it ended up there. No, the site used to be mostly scattered with rubbish and slabs of concrete when we bought the house 4 years ago :-) The dill is my own doing. A single specimen set up shop between veg and ornamental plants, having emigrated from my herb garden last year (where incidentally, dill did appallingly badly). It was so huge and gorgeous I kept it (and used it generously). But I didn't behead it in time, so it self seeded profusely. The weather has been appalling here for the last two months, and I have been busy in work, so I hadn't been spending any worthwhile time in the garden in ages. I ended up with a veritable rainforest of the stuff between the veg and one of my ornamental beds. I plucked it all over this week end, keeping and freezing as much of the fronds as I could (I love dill in salads and with fish). The chervil is the real mystery. Never saw it before, and this year there was quite a bit of it at the foot of my beans. I must ask my neighbours if they grow it - that might be the explanation. I'm quite chuffed though, and nearly sorry I plucked it like a weed. Though I suspect there is still some about, which I may just leave there and harvest for culinary purposes. Cat(h) |
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"Cat(h)" writes
On Jul 16, 2:05 pm, "Cat(h)" wrote: On Jul 16, 1:49 pm, Jennifer Sparkes wrote: Could it be Chervil? Though I think the leaves may be more finely cut than the plant you are describing. Jennifer Do you know, I think you've just cracked it! The photos I can find look remarkably like the stuff I have been pulling from under my beans! Thank you so much! Cat(h) (who will keep whatever more of it shows up)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Definitely Chervil: I read in one of the website that more mature leaves turn a shade of bronze, which I described as purple. Not sure how it ended up in my garden! Thanks again! Cat(h) I wouldn't eat it until you've identified it definitely including letting it flower and seed. One of the weedy umbellifers, for example, does the leaf colour change thing, and along with the herbs like chervil there's a lot of poisonous plants in that family. -- Kay |
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