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I have a Climbing Schoolgirl rose in a container. Last year it bolted
to the sky with a handful of blooms at the top and nothing lower down. I cut it back to 6" last autumn and now I'm trying to train it to go horizontally for a foot or so either side on a bamboo trellis. Question is, what do I do when these shoots get too long for the width I want? Can I just snip them off at the edge of the trellis, and will new shoots develop on the bits that are left? If so, can I carry on doing this throughout the summer to keep it in order? Thanks in advance for any advice |
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![]() wrote in message ups.com... I have a Climbing Schoolgirl rose in a container. Last year it bolted to the sky with a handful of blooms at the top and nothing lower down. I cut it back to 6" last autumn and now I'm trying to train it to go horizontally for a foot or so either side on a bamboo trellis. Question is, what do I do when these shoots get too long for the width I want? Can I just snip them off at the edge of the trellis, and will new shoots develop on the bits that are left? If so, can I carry on doing this throughout the summer to keep it in order? Thanks in advance for any advice Sounds like it could be tricky within the space you have ,you have got to try and train the new growths twining horizontally,this is easier to achieve up a pillar or a wall.Where horizontal space is limited it is difficult.Maybe you will be better off putting something else in the pot,shrub rose maybe,with something else behind climbing the trellis,maybe a clematis. Have fun either way! cheers keith ps make sure that isnt your real email address on show or you could be open to loads of spam mail. |
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On Apr 12, 4:10 pm, "
wrote: I have a Climbing Schoolgirl rose in a container. Last year it bolted to the sky with a handful of blooms at the top and nothing lower down. I cut it back to 6" last autumn and now I'm trying to train it to go horizontally for a foot or so either side on a bamboo trellis. Question is, what do I do when these shoots get too long for the width I want? Can I just snip them off at the edge of the trellis, and will new shoots develop on the bits that are left? If so, can I carry on doing this throughout the summer to keep it in order? Thanks in advance for any advice As I understand it, the "proper" way is to train the shoots so they criss-cross up the trellis but in my experience roses will grow whatever you do to them. |
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On 13 Apr, 13:11, "adder1969" wrote:
On Apr 12, 4:10 pm, " wrote: I have a Climbing Schoolgirl rose in a container. Last year it bolted to the sky with a handful of blooms at the top and nothing lower down. I cut it back to 6" last autumn and now I'm trying to train it to go horizontally for a foot or so either side on a bamboo trellis. Question is, what do I do when these shoots get too long for the width I want? Can I just snip them off at the edge of the trellis, and will new shoots develop on the bits that are left? If so, can I carry on doing this throughout the summer to keep it in order? Thanks in advance for any advice As I understand it, the "proper" way is to train the shoots so they criss-cross up the trellis but in my experience roses will grow whatever you do to them. I had 'Schoolgirl' growing over a large arch but this year have given up and ripped it out. It was just too much of a brute; it threw up long, immensely thorny stems that waved around and snagged the unwary. In the first couple of years I tied it in diligently and pruned gently but it still grew like a crazy octopus. The flowers were sparse and unscented and the gawky, vicious growth was in my opinion downright ugly. Nowadays there are scores of lovely varieties of rose that combine form, colour, scent and disease-resistance, many of which can be trained as small climbers. For a few examples take a look at the David Austin website - http://www.davidaustinroses.com/ Having said that, I'm not sure how happy any vigorous rose would be growing long-term in a container. Maybe one or two of the smaller- growing clematis varieties would be more suitable (although they too have vigorous root systems, and the container would need to be a decent size and kept well watered and fed). |
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On 13 Apr, 14:31, "Ornata" wrote:
On 13 Apr, 13:11, "adder1969" wrote: On Apr 12, 4:10 pm, " wrote: I have a Climbing Schoolgirl rose in a container. Last year it bolted to the sky with a handful of blooms at the top and nothing lower down. I cut it back to 6" last autumn and now I'm trying to train it to go horizontally for a foot or so either side on a bamboo trellis. Question is, what do I do when these shoots get too long for the width I want? Can I just snip them off at the edge of the trellis, and will new shoots develop on the bits that are left? If so, can I carry on doing this throughout the summer to keep it in order? Thanks in advance for any advice As I understand it, the "proper" way is to train the shoots so they criss-cross up the trellis but in my experience roses will grow whatever you do to them. I had 'Schoolgirl' growing over a large arch but this year have given up and ripped it out. It was just too much of a brute; it threw up long, immensely thorny stems that waved around and snagged the unwary. In the first couple of years I tied it in diligently and pruned gently but it still grew like a crazy octopus. The flowers were sparse and unscented and the gawky, vicious growth was in my opinion downright ugly. Nowadays there are scores of lovely varieties of rose that combine form, colour, scent and disease-resistance, many of which can be trained as small climbers. For a few examples take a look at the David Austin website -http://www.davidaustinroses.com/ Having said that, I'm not sure how happy any vigorous rose would be growing long-term in a container. Maybe one or two of the smaller- growing clematis varieties would be more suitable (although they too have vigorous root systems, and the container would need to be a decent size and kept well watered and fed). I bought it as a patio rose, "perfect for a container", "height 2 metres". So much for the hype! I've just planted a Phyllis Bide from David Austin which seems to have a more civilised growth pattern. |
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![]() " wrote in message ups.com... On 13 Apr, 14:31, "Ornata" wrote: On 13 Apr, 13:11, "adder1969" wrote: On Apr 12, 4:10 pm, " wrote: I have a Climbing Schoolgirl rose in a container. Last year it bolted to the sky with a handful of blooms at the top and nothing lower down. I cut it back to 6" last autumn and now I'm trying to train it to go horizontally for a foot or so either side on a bamboo trellis. Question is, what do I do when these shoots get too long for the width I want? Can I just snip them off at the edge of the trellis, and will new shoots develop on the bits that are left? If so, can I carry on doing this throughout the summer to keep it in order? Thanks in advance for any advice As I understand it, the "proper" way is to train the shoots so they criss-cross up the trellis but in my experience roses will grow whatever you do to them. I had 'Schoolgirl' growing over a large arch but this year have given up and ripped it out. It was just too much of a brute; it threw up long, immensely thorny stems that waved around and snagged the unwary. In the first couple of years I tied it in diligently and pruned gently but it still grew like a crazy octopus. The flowers were sparse and unscented and the gawky, vicious growth was in my opinion downright ugly. Nowadays there are scores of lovely varieties of rose that combine form, colour, scent and disease-resistance, many of which can be trained as small climbers. For a few examples take a look at the David Austin website -http://www.davidaustinroses.com/ Having said that, I'm not sure how happy any vigorous rose would be growing long-term in a container. Maybe one or two of the smaller- growing clematis varieties would be more suitable (although they too have vigorous root systems, and the container would need to be a decent size and kept well watered and fed). I bought it as a patio rose, "perfect for a container", "height 2 metres". So much for the hype! I've just planted a Phyllis Bide from David Austin which seems to have a more civilised growth pattern. I once had this rose (Schoolgirl) at a previous garden. It's natural habit is to go skywards and produce all the flowers on top. It was fine for the location as it covered a balcony. It really is more trouble than it is worth. |
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On 13 Apr, 19:26, "Rupert \(W.Yorkshire\)"
wrote: " wrote in oglegroups.com... On 13 Apr, 14:31, "Ornata" wrote: On 13 Apr, 13:11, "adder1969" wrote: On Apr 12, 4:10 pm, " wrote: I have a Climbing Schoolgirl rose in a container. Last year it bolted to the sky with a handful of blooms at the top and nothing lower down. I cut it back to 6" last autumn and now I'm trying to train it to go horizontally for a foot or so either side on a bamboo trellis. Question is, what do I do when these shoots get too long for the width I want? Can I just snip them off at the edge of the trellis, and will new shoots develop on the bits that are left? If so, can I carry on doing this throughout the summer to keep it in order? Thanks in advance for any advice As I understand it, the "proper" way is to train the shoots so they criss-cross up the trellis but in my experience roses will grow whatever you do to them. I had 'Schoolgirl' growing over a large arch but this year have given up and ripped it out. It was just too much of a brute; it threw up long, immensely thorny stems that waved around and snagged the unwary. In the first couple of years I tied it in diligently and pruned gently but it still grew like a crazy octopus. The flowers were sparse and unscented and the gawky, vicious growth was in my opinion downright ugly. Nowadays there are scores of lovely varieties of rose that combine form, colour, scent and disease-resistance, many of which can be trained as small climbers. For a few examples take a look at the David Austin website -http://www.davidaustinroses.com/ Having said that, I'm not sure how happy any vigorous rose would be growing long-term in a container. Maybe one or two of the smaller- growing clematis varieties would be more suitable (although they too have vigorous root systems, and the container would need to be a decent size and kept well watered and fed). I bought it as a patio rose, "perfect for a container", "height 2 metres". So much for the hype! I've just planted a Phyllis Bide from David Austin which seems to have a more civilised growth pattern. I once had this rose (Schoolgirl) at a previous garden. It's natural habit is to go skywards and produce all the flowers on top. It was fine for the location as it covered a balcony. It really is more trouble than it is worth. Right, I'll ditch her in the autumn |
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