With Easter, the traditional time for planting,upon us,
You may be interested by the ancient lore of planting
according of the moon.
Simply put, the moon is on the wane at present, so we
should plant crops that grow below the ground.Also
trees (including fruit trees) and saplings.

Potassium absorbtion is at a maximum at the new moon.
Start and turn your compost heap now.

Crops that produce above ground should wait until a
waxing moon.
Fruit cane,as opposed to fruit trees,should wait for the
second quarter of the waxing moon.

Here's a good one:
in times of drought sow seeds
when moon is waxing, close to
the full moon.
The Zodiac also has an influence, but that's another story.

http://www.gardeningbythemoon.com/

Good Gardening!
Sam.

Hollyhocks? ;-)


"sam" wrote in message
...
With Easter, the traditional time for planting,upon us,
You may be interested by the ancient lore of planting
according of the moon.
Simply put, the moon is on the wane at present, so we
should plant crops that grow below the ground.Also
trees (including fruit trees) and saplings.

Potassium absorbtion is at a maximum at the new moon.
Start and turn your compost heap now.

Crops that produce above ground should wait until a
waxing moon.
Fruit cane,as opposed to fruit trees,should wait for the
second quarter of the waxing moon.

Here's a good one:
in times of drought sow seeds
when moon is waxing, close to
the full moon.
The Zodiac also has an influence, but that's another story.

http://www.gardeningbythemoon.com/

Good Gardening!
Sam.

"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message
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Hollyhocks? ;-)


Certainly Boll hocks! ;-)
Graham

On 5/4/07 23:20, in article , "Keith
(Dorset)" wrote:

Hollyhocks? ;-)


"sam" wrote in message
...
With Easter, the traditional time for planting,upon us,
You may be interested by the ancient lore of planting
according of the moon.
Simply put, the moon is on the wane at present, so we
should plant crops that grow below the ground.Also
trees (including fruit trees) and saplings.
snip

Not necessarily - it's used by some professionals.
http://www.romanin.com/pages/biodynamie.php?lang=en
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

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On 5/4/07 23:20, in article ,
"Keith
(Dorset)" wrote:

Hollyhocks? ;-)


"sam" wrote in message
...
With Easter, the traditional time for planting,upon us,
You may be interested by the ancient lore of planting
according of the moon.
Simply put, the moon is on the wane at present, so we
should plant crops that grow below the ground.Also
trees (including fruit trees) and saplings.
snip

Not necessarily - it's used by some professionals.
http://www.romanin.com/pages/biodynamie.php?lang=en
--
Did you know that followers of biodynamism believe that when they fertilize
with cow manure, the slurry must be stirred rhythmically beforehand because
water has a memory?
Poor, deluded fools!
They use organic farming methods, there's nothing wrong with that, in fact,
that is to be encouraged. However, the rest is pure tosh!
Graham

On Apr 6, 2:42 am, "graham" wrote:
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message

... Hollyhocks? ;-)

Certainly Boll hocks! ;-)
Graham

Graham, do you mean Holly hocks!

Judith

On 6/4/07 16:26, in article fEtRh.36639$aG1.11330@pd7urf3no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 5/4/07 23:20, in article ,
"Keith
(Dorset)" wrote:

Hollyhocks? ;-)


"sam" wrote in message
...
With Easter, the traditional time for planting,upon us,
You may be interested by the ancient lore of planting
according of the moon.
Simply put, the moon is on the wane at present, so we
should plant crops that grow below the ground.Also
trees (including fruit trees) and saplings.
snip

Not necessarily - it's used by some professionals.
http://www.romanin.com/pages/biodynamie.php?lang=en
--
Did you know that followers of biodynamism believe that when they fertilize
with cow manure, the slurry must be stirred rhythmically beforehand because
water has a memory?
Poor, deluded fools!
They use organic farming methods, there's nothing wrong with that, in fact,
that is to be encouraged. However, the rest is pure tosh!
Graham


I know the Charmolues, Graham. They used to grow Chateau Montrose, one of
the most acclaimed clarets in existence. They're business people, not
fools. If they didn't think was a good plan, they wouldn't use it. They
have experience of doing this for several years. Do you?
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

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On Apr 6, 2:42 am, "graham" wrote:
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message

... Hollyhocks? ;-)

Certainly Boll hocks! ;-)
Graham

Graham, do you mean Holly hocks!

No! And the "h" is silent:-)
Graham

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On Apr 6, 2:42 am, "graham" wrote:
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message

... Hollyhocks? ;-)

Certainly Boll hocks! ;-)
Graham

Graham, do you mean Holly hocks!

No! And the "h" is silent:-)

You mean 'olly hocks'?

Alan

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On Apr 6, 2:42 am, "graham" wrote:
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message

... Hollyhocks? ;-)

Certainly Boll hocks! ;-)
Graham
Graham, do you mean Holly hocks!

No! And the "h" is silent:-)

You mean 'olly hocks'?

Alan


Well, you've got to sow and plant some time haven't you, so what's to lose?

Sam

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On Apr 6, 2:42 am, "graham" wrote:
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote in message

.. . Hollyhocks? ;-)

Certainly Boll hocks! ;-)
Graham
Graham, do you mean Holly hocks!

No! And the "h" is silent:-)

You mean 'olly hocks'?

Alan

Well, you've got to sow and plant some time haven't you, so what's to lose?

Sam

This reminds me of the idea that if you cultivate your soil at night
then you get less weeds growing as the seed hasn't been exposed to the
daylight which is supposed to trigger it into growth.

David Hill
Abacus Nurseries

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On 6/4/07 16:26, in article fEtRh.36639$aG1.11330@pd7urf3no, "graham"
wrote:

Not necessarily - it's used by some professionals.
http://www.romanin.com/pages/biodynamie.php?lang=en
--
Did you know that followers of biodynamism believe that when they
fertilize
with cow manure, the slurry must be stirred rhythmically beforehand
because
water has a memory?
Poor, deluded fools!
They use organic farming methods, there's nothing wrong with that, in
fact,
that is to be encouraged. However, the rest is pure tosh!
Graham


I know the Charmolues, Graham. They used to grow Chateau Montrose, one of
the most acclaimed clarets in existence.

Yes, I know. I have some. I wish I could afford some of the 2005 vintage
but it probably won't be ready to drink in my lifetime:-((

They're business people, not
fools.

There are scads of business people who believe in astrology, crystals, angel
therapy and such tosh. That makes them fools. Reading the last December
edition of Decanter on biodynamism, I realised that despite all the advances
in science and education, there are still people who believe in pagan
practices that one might expect to find in primitive tribal societies. The
correspondence that ensued only confirmed that. Remember, I'm not laughing
or scratching my head in amazement at *organic* viticulture, just the
metaphysical garbage that biodynamicists have attached to it.

They have experience of doing this for several years. Do you?

Absolutely irrelevant!!!
--
Graham

On 7/4/07 06:03, in article XCFRh.38387$aG1.7470@pd7urf3no, "graham"
wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
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On 6/4/07 16:26, in article fEtRh.36639$aG1.11330@pd7urf3no, "graham"
wrote:

Not necessarily - it's used by some professionals.
http://www.romanin.com/pages/biodynamie.php?lang=en
--
Did you know that followers of biodynamism believe that when they
fertilize
with cow manure, the slurry must be stirred rhythmically beforehand
because
water has a memory?
Poor, deluded fools!
They use organic farming methods, there's nothing wrong with that, in
fact,
that is to be encouraged. However, the rest is pure tosh!
Graham


I know the Charmolues, Graham. They used to grow Chateau Montrose, one of
the most acclaimed clarets in existence.

Yes, I know. I have some. I wish I could afford some of the 2005 vintage
but it probably won't be ready to drink in my lifetime:-((

I'd love to lay some down but it would more likely be for my grandchildren
than me.

They're business people, not
fools.

There are scads of business people who believe in astrology, crystals, angel
therapy and such tosh. That makes them fools.

I can't say I believe in those things myself but I think to call them
'fools' just because *you* say so, strikes me as arrogant in the extreme.


Reading the last December
edition of Decanter on biodynamism, I realised that despite all the advances
in science and education, there are still people who believe in pagan
practices that one might expect to find in primitive tribal societies. The
correspondence that ensued only confirmed that. Remember, I'm not laughing
or scratching my head in amazement at *organic* viticulture, just the
metaphysical garbage that biodynamicists have attached to it.

I realise that but man has been growing fruit and vegetables on these
principles for centuries and at the very least, probably doing less harm to
the land than those hurrying things along with past heavy and frequent
applications of fertilisers.

They have experience of doing this for several years. Do you?

Absolutely irrelevant!!!
--
Graham

Of course it's not irrelevant. In fact, it is extremely important. You
dismiss as fools people who follow a practice that you appear to know
nothing about from experience. By all means be sceptical but to be quite so
absolute about it isn't appropriate. Jean Louis Charmolue knows wine, has
made it his whole life and career and is absolutely passionate on the
subject. He's spent years NOT growing wine on biodynamic principles at
Chateau Montrose and presumably if he's moved bought Chateau Romanin, he has
done so because it's successful and he likes/approves of the way in which it
is grown. It's delicious wine, too! We found it quite by accident when we
had lunch at a restaurant in the Camargue several years ago and then we went
to buy some at the chateau. I haven't seen the Charmolues for years (their
daughter and I used each to be married to two brothers) and didn't realise
they'd taken over Romanin at or around the time we were there. I had a great
surprise when I read a bit more about it a while ago and discovered they'd
bought it. There's been some dispute about the sale of Montrose, I believe
but why and why they sold up there I don't know.

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

I'm sure planting by the phase of the moon would be more successful if it
was done at midnight with some naked virgins dancing around the garden.

Norman Digger.

On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 Sacha wrote:

Jean Louis Charmolue knows wine, has
made it his whole life and career and is absolutely passionate on the
subject. He's spent years NOT growing wine on biodynamic principles at
Chateau Montrose and presumably if he's moved bought Chateau Romanin, he has
done so because it's successful and he likes/approves of the way in which it
is grown. It's delicious wine, too! We found it quite by accident when we
had lunch at a restaurant in the Camargue several years ago and then we went
to buy some at the chateau. I haven't seen the Charmolues for years (their
daughter and I used each to be married to two brothers) and didn't realise
they'd taken over Romanin at or around the time we were there. I had a great
surprise when I read a bit more about it a while ago and discovered they'd
bought it.

Their web site is extremely difficult to read. It has the smallest print
of any web site I've encountered! Pity!

David

--
David Rance http://www.mesnil.demon.co.uk
Fido Address: 2:252/110 writing from Caversham, Reading, UK