I have some large-flowered semi-hardy cyclamen* in flower in the
garden ATM, but I want to move them. Can someone tell me the best
time? While in flower, or after they've died back?

*They're about the same size as the indoor types, but have come
through recent frosts, say -2C, with only light damage to the flowers.
Reds, whites, purples & pinks.


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

On 30/1/07 18:03, in article ,
"Chris Hogg" wrote:

I have some large-flowered semi-hardy cyclamen* in flower in the
garden ATM, but I want to move them. Can someone tell me the best
time? While in flower, or after they've died back?

*They're about the same size as the indoor types, but have come
through recent frosts, say -2C, with only light damage to the flowers.
Reds, whites, purples & pinks.

After they've died back unless you can dig such a mass of soil with them
that they don't even know they've been moved. That's the principle behind
buying plants in containers, rather than bare root.
--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

On 30 Jan, 18:10, Sacha wrote:
.After they've died back unless you can dig such a mass of soil with them
that they don't even know they've been moved. That's the principle behind
buying plants in containers, rather than bare root.
--
Yes and that's also the best time to buy them. For those who don't
already know - avoid those poor dried up things you see in pre-packs
in garden centres. They cost a lot, they won't live and the *may* have
been taken from the wild. Go to a specialist like http://
www.hardycyclamen.com/cyclamen1/index.html, these people grow their
own and often have good offers of smallish corms in early summer. I
have no interest in the business, I'm just one of their satisfied
customers. If you have a dryish bank under trees or a hedge and it's
bare now, just imagine it full of Cyclamen coum - in full flower now.

On 30/1/07 18:25, in article
, "Rod"
wrote:



On 30 Jan, 18:10, Sacha wrote:
.After they've died back unless you can dig such a mass of soil with them
that they don't even know they've been moved. That's the principle behind
buying plants in containers, rather than bare root.
--
Yes and that's also the best time to buy them. For those who don't
already know - avoid those poor dried up things you see in pre-packs
in garden centres. They cost a lot, they won't live and the *may* have
been taken from the wild. Go to a specialist like http://
www.hardycyclamen.com/cyclamen1/index.html, these people grow their
own and often have good offers of smallish corms in early summer. I
have no interest in the business, I'm just one of their satisfied
customers. If you have a dryish bank under trees or a hedge and it's
bare now, just imagine it full of Cyclamen coum - in full flower now.

Apropos this, we had an amusing incident a few days ago. A customer came in
saying she wanted to buy snowdrops in the green. Ray explained it was too
early for us to have those but pointed out that we have pots of snowdrops
and that she could always take those home and plant them. No, she said, I
want snowdrops in the green. Yes, said Ray, if you take those home and
plant them you'll have snowdrops. No, I want them in the green. So at
that point, he gave up and she lost out on having snowdrops flowering this
year - with green leaves. ;-)


--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

In article om,
"Rod" writes:
|
| If you have a dryish bank under trees or a hedge and it's
| bare now, just imagine it full of Cyclamen coum - in full flower now.

Mine aren't. But they are in leaf, and flowered earlier and will again.
And the leaves are very decorative, too. The go dull at -5 Celcius,
but recover quickly, and don't have serious trouble until -10.

The bed is actually one in the rain shadow of the house, but I am
establishing some under a conifer, too.

Totally irrelevant plug: try Passiflora incarnata in such situations;
it is a seriously problematic plant, but seems happy where its roots
can overwinter in dry soil but where it can reach out to water to grow.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:03:30 +0000, Chris Hogg wrote:

I have some large-flowered semi-hardy cyclamen* in flower in the
garden ATM, but I want to move them. Can someone tell me the best
time? While in flower, or after they've died back?

I was once advised by a chap who grew a lot of hardy cyclamen that
they were best moved while in flower. He seemed to be right as he dug
one up for me which is still going strong.
I assume the same would apply to the semi-hardy ones.

Pam in Bristol

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:57:11 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

Apropos this, we had an amusing incident a few days ago. A customer came in
saying she wanted to buy snowdrops in the green. Ray explained it was too
early for us to have those but pointed out that we have pots of snowdrops
and that she could always take those home and plant them. No, she said, I
want snowdrops in the green. Yes, said Ray, if you take those home and
plant them you'll have snowdrops. No, I want them in the green. So at
that point, he gave up and she lost out on having snowdrops flowering this
year - with green leaves. ;-)

If he had taken them out of the pots, taken off the flowers and
bundled them up, would she have gone away happy?

Pam in Bristol

On 31/1/07 23:35, in article ,
"Pam Moore" wrote:

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:57:11 +0000, Sacha
wrote:

Apropos this, we had an amusing incident a few days ago. A customer came in
saying she wanted to buy snowdrops in the green. Ray explained it was too
early for us to have those but pointed out that we have pots of snowdrops
and that she could always take those home and plant them. No, she said, I
want snowdrops in the green. Yes, said Ray, if you take those home and
plant them you'll have snowdrops. No, I want them in the green. So at
that point, he gave up and she lost out on having snowdrops flowering this
year - with green leaves. ;-)

If he had taken them out of the pots, taken off the flowers and
bundled them up, would she have gone away happy?

Not if she'd seen the buds...... ;-(

--
Sacha
http://www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/
(remove weeds from address)

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:10:21 +0000, Sacha
wrote:


After they've died back unless you can dig such a mass of soil with them
that they don't even know they've been moved. That's the principle behind
buying plants in containers, rather than bare root.

After they've died back it will be then. Many thanks for that.


--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

On Jan 30, 6:03 pm, Chris Hogg wrote:
I have some large-flowered semi-hardy cyclamen* in flower in the
garden ATM, but I want to move them. Can someone tell me the best
time? While in flower, or after they've died back?

*They're about the same size as the indoor types, but have come
through recent frosts, say -2C, with only light damage to the flowers.
Reds, whites, purples & pinks.

--
Chris

E-mail: christopher[dot]hogg[at]virgin[dot]net

I'm glad you asked that Chris as I have cyclamen which was planted
next to shrubs when the shrubs were smaller and now I want to move
them, the cyclamen that is. Mine are in France, would the weather
there make a difference to the time when I moved them. At the moment
there is snow and until April it can be pretty cold, when would be the
best time to move these in those conditions?

Judith at home

In article . com,
" writes:
|
| I'm glad you asked that Chris as I have cyclamen which was planted
| next to shrubs when the shrubs were smaller and now I want to move
| them, the cyclamen that is. Mine are in France, would the weather
| there make a difference to the time when I moved them. At the moment
| there is snow and until April it can be pretty cold, when would be the
| best time to move these in those conditions?

Most cyclamen go dormant in hot, dry weather.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

On Feb 1, 9:09 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article . " writes:

|
| I'm glad you asked that Chris as I have cyclamen which was planted
| next to shrubs when the shrubs were smaller and now I want to move
| them, the cyclamen that is. Mine are in France, would the weather
| there make a difference to the time when I moved them. At the moment
| there is snow and until April it can be pretty cold, when would be the
| best time to move these in those conditions?

Most cyclamen go dormant in hot, dry weather.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Thank you Nick, so it's later on then.

Judith at home

" writes
On Feb 1, 9:09 pm, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:
In article
s.com,"judith.le...@go
oglemail.com" writes:

|
| I'm glad you asked that Chris as I have cyclamen which was planted
| next to shrubs when the shrubs were smaller and now I want to move
| them, the cyclamen that is. Mine are in France, would the weather
| there make a difference to the time when I moved them. At the moment
| there is snow and until April it can be pretty cold, when would be the
| best time to move these in those conditions?

Most cyclamen go dormant in hot, dry weather.

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Thank you Nick, so it's later on then.

Some people reckon it can be hard to get them going again from dry, but
this applies to corms that you buy - if you're simply digging up from
one area of the garden and replanting them the same day, I couldn't
imagine they'd actually notice, so dormant seem the time to go.
--
Kay

On Feb 2, 8:21 pm, K wrote:
" writes
Most cyclamen go dormant in hot, dry weather.

Some people reckon it can be hard to get them going again from dry, but
this applies to corms that you buy - if you're simply digging up from
one area of the garden and replanting them the same day, I couldn't
imagine they'd actually notice, so dormant seem the time to go.
--
Kay- Hide quoted text -

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Kay, Edward telephoned from France today where the said corms are and
we have snow drifts several feet up against the back wall at the rear
of the house so I expect they may be covered although the ones at the
front are under just six inches of snow. When I was there in at
Christmas, the leaves were already through, would this heavy snow
finish them off? They have been there several years and are quite
hardy but the snow this year has been heavier.

JudithL at home

In article .com,
" writes:
|
| Kay, Edward telephoned from France today where the said corms are and
| we have snow drifts several feet up against the back wall at the rear
| of the house so I expect they may be covered although the ones at the
| front are under just six inches of snow. When I was there in at
| Christmas, the leaves were already through, would this heavy snow
| finish them off? They have been there several years and are quite
| hardy but the snow this year has been heavier.

No. If they are C. coum or C. hederifolium, they are very hardy
provided that they stay fairly dry. They can't stand waterlogging.
You may lose some corms, but I doubt you will lose many.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.