"Oz" wrote in message
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Jim Webster writes
Obviously it takes grain, but then does it take less grain to do the daily
deliveries with a horse drawn cart or the bioethanol powered van.

A small steam engine would be preferable, or even better a small
biodiesel powered diesel engine.

steam does have the advantage of being 'multifuel' ;-))

Jim Webster

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Hamish writes
Of course if fuel shortage forces back the horse and plough it need not be
just 19th century technology,

Horses are terribly energy-inefficient. They probably need 2ac + 2T oats
per year to function effectively. A 1hp (OK 3HP) steam engine would
probably do more work and need fewer resources.

is that adding back in eating the horse when you have finished?

Jim Webster

"Jim Webster" wrote in message
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"Oz" wrote in message
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Jim Webster writes
"Oz" wrote in message
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Jim Webster writes
not only that but can you imagine pete having any skills useful in that
sort
of environment.

slaves can usually be induced to do enough to be worth feeding.

if not, well....

wonder if he could cope with pulling a plough

unlikely, plenty of hoeing and mucking out animals would be about his
level.

given his obvious dislike of animals I'm not sure I'd want them near any,
hoeing might be more suitable


Would that be the silk trousers that go with doubletts?

Jim Webster writes

"Oz" wrote in message
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Hamish writes
Of course if fuel shortage forces back the horse and plough it need not be
just 19th century technology,

Horses are terribly energy-inefficient. They probably need 2ac + 2T oats
per year to function effectively. A 1hp (OK 3HP) steam engine would
probably do more work and need fewer resources.

is that adding back in eating the horse when you have finished?

Whilst that would undoubtedly be the route taken, the energy return is
rather low considering the long life and expensive feeding of the horse.

Mind you, even a diesel can be recycled, preferably not by eating.

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Oz
This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious.

"Oz" wrote in message
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Jim Webster writes

"Oz" wrote in message
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Hamish writes
Of course if fuel shortage forces back the horse and plough it need not
be
just 19th century technology,

Horses are terribly energy-inefficient. They probably need 2ac + 2T oats
per year to function effectively. A 1hp (OK 3HP) steam engine would
probably do more work and need fewer resources.

is that adding back in eating the horse when you have finished?

Whilst that would undoubtedly be the route taken, the energy return is
rather low considering the long life and expensive feeding of the horse.

Mind you, even a diesel can be recycled, preferably not by eating.


The other option would be to have urban distribution points and the populace
to walk or travel to them by public transport to collect.Nationalise Tesco
and you've probably got them ;-))

Jim Webster