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Here in the NE I have still got fuchsias in flower and nasturtiums sprawling
around. I think Busy Lizzies are about the only plants to have suffered.
What about other places?
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Jim S wrote:
Here in the NE I have still got fuchsias in flower and nasturtiums
sprawling around. I think Busy Lizzies are about the only plants to
have suffered. What about other places?


My 2m tall, 10 year old, potted, "If you bring that thing in the house thiy
year I'm off" Avocado is still going strong on the patio. (SW19) just the
top, most recent soft growth partly burnt off.

Banana (M.basjoo) still in full green leaf! - a td wind blown and tattered
but still green & standing.

pk


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My 2m tall, 10 year old, potted, "If you bring that thing in the house
thiy year I'm off"


Now 'there's ' an offer :-)) And you passed it by?

Mike


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Jim S wrote:
Here in the NE I have still got fuchsias in flower and nasturtiums
sprawling around. I think Busy Lizzies are about the only plants to
have suffered. What about other places?


Pelargoniums sending out new buds of all colours, some have opened in the
past week, they have been there since late May last year and I /was/ going
to move them to the GH in an attempt to avoid purchasing new ones, but I've
a feeling they might make it through...verbena also having a new lease of
life, rhubarb sprouting rapidly, fuschias budding again.

daffs aren't falling for it though, they might know something I don't.


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After 3 nights of light frost in November, almost all summer bedding decided
to hibernate, however i still have gazania tiger stripe just about in flower
here in the West Midlands, also have asllium coming up well, and a day lily
which wifey bought last year and never flowered, is looking really healthy
and in full leaf.
Be prepared for change in weather about 18th to 25th of this month, and
about 12th to 20th February, if previous years are anything to go by.

regards
Cineman


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Here in the NE I have still got fuchsias in flower and nasturtiums
sprawling
around. I think Busy Lizzies are about the only plants to have suffered.
What about other places?
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Tyneside UK
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On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:31:57 GMT, Jim S wrote:

Here in the NE I have still got fuchsias in flower and nasturtiums sprawling
around. I think Busy Lizzies are about the only plants to have suffered.
What about other places?


Nothing tender has survived in my garden, bbut a friend in central
Bristol with a very sheltered garden has a tibouchina, 7 feet high, in
flower now! It was out all through last winter also.

Pam in Bristol
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Here in the NE I have still got fuchsias in flower and nasturtiums sprawling
around. I think Busy Lizzies are about the only plants to have suffered.
What about other places?


Nothing tender has survived in my garden, bbut a friend in central
Bristol with a very sheltered garden has a tibouchina, 7 feet high, in
flower now! It was out all through last winter also.

Pam in Bristol


My daughter tells me there are Hollyhocks in flower in Cheltenham.
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My daughter tells me there are Hollyhocks in flower in Cheltenham.


Mimosa in Ashburton car park is in full flower. Daffodils on the village
green here are in bud.

Hope that you all survived last nights storms.
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"Sacha" wrote
"Kate Morgan" wrote:
Hope that you all survived last nights storms.


Huh. It's still lashing about here and is truly awful. It's pouring
with rain and although I have all the windows shut tight, the wind is
forcing the rain in through the frames! It's among the worst of the
weather I've experienced here! The papers were more than two hours
late this morning and the delivery man told Ray that a few high sided
lorries have been blown over on the motorway.


It's still very windy this afternoon in Norfolk although the sun's been
breaking through now and then. There were reports of flooded roads on
the local news yesterday evening and we had more rain last night so I'm
staying put indoors today.

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My 2m tall, 10 year old, potted, "If you bring that thing in the house thiy
year I'm off" Avocado is still going strong on the patio. (SW19) just the
top, most recent soft growth partly burnt off.


You can avert a 'domestic' by planting it out. Avocados are rather
hardier than most would suggest. There are several large plants around
London and at least one that fruits regularly. They can become very
large, so maybe a bit of pruning courtesy of winter frosts is a good
thing.

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In article . com,
"DavePoole Torquay" writes:
| p.k. wrote:
|
| My 2m tall, 10 year old, potted, "If you bring that thing in the house thiy
| year I'm off" Avocado is still going strong on the patio. (SW19) just the
| top, most recent soft growth partly burnt off.
|
| You can avert a 'domestic' by planting it out. Avocados are rather
| hardier than most would suggest. There are several large plants around
| London and at least one that fruits regularly. They can become very
| large, so maybe a bit of pruning courtesy of winter frosts is a good
| thing.

According to Sunset, there is a VERY considerable variation in hardness
between regional subspecies, and most of the ones sold in supermarkets
here will be the delicate one. My reading of the entry is that this
applies more to whether they will fruit than whether they will live.
Sunset says that they will survive 20-24 Fahrenheit, which is pretty
well the lowest that London gets at present.

Also, my experience with some subtropicals is that they can often do
better in pots, even if the soil freezes. This is almost certainly
because the soil dries out faster after heavy rain[*]. I have not a
clue whether an avocado is one of those, nor whether my experience is
simply due to statistical variation.
[*] Which doesn't happen in the UK. We get only gentle rain here,
don't we?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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"Nick Maclaren" wrote in message
In article . com,
"DavePoole Torquay" writes:
| p.k. wrote:
|
| My 2m tall, 10 year old, potted, "If you bring that thing in

the house thiy
| year I'm off" Avocado is still going strong on the patio.

(SW19) just the
| top, most recent soft growth partly burnt off.
|
| You can avert a 'domestic' by planting it out. Avocados are

rather
| hardier than most would suggest. There are several large plants

around
| London and at least one that fruits regularly. They can become

very
| large, so maybe a bit of pruning courtesy of winter frosts is a

good
| thing.

According to Sunset, there is a VERY considerable variation in

hardness
between regional subspecies, and most of the ones sold in

supermarkets
here will be the delicate one. My reading of the entry is that this
applies more to whether they will fruit than whether they will live.
Sunset says that they will survive 20-24 Fahrenheit, which is pretty
well the lowest that London gets at present.

Also, my experience with some subtropicals is that they can often do
better in pots, even if the soil freezes. This is almost certainly
because the soil dries out faster after heavy rain[*]. I have not a
clue whether an avocado is one of those, nor whether my experience

is
simply due to statistical variation.

[*] Which doesn't happen in the UK. We get only gentle rain here,
don't we?


There is a garden writer in Oz called Jackie French and she has had
amazing success in a similar climate to mine with some plants that in
the past I would nver have even considered growing because they are
either subtropical or sometimes even tropical. One of the plants she
has grown from both bought plants and home harvested seeds is
avocado. The only site I could find is:
http://www.jackiefrench.com/octo04.html
Scroll well down the page for her comments on avocado.

Unfortunately this site doesn't say a lot but from hearing her
lectures and reading her books, her advice is that:
Avocados must be protected from frost for the first 3 years in the
garden but can then cope with reasonably heavy frosts.
They like to grow as an understorey plant (presumably under
sacrificial trees given the huge size that they eventually grow to).





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