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Water help..please
We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html |
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Solar pumps are unlikely to be powerful enough to cope with the amount of water in this pond. you will need to work out cubic voloume of the pond width X depth X length then look for pumps sufficient to change water every 20 mins to half hour depending on what fish you carry. You should consider what plants are going into pool first, as come spring you will have the best pea soup in the neighbourhood. SEcondly Plants for round the hedge would look good spreading over the hedge into the pool to break up the straight lines perennials such as hostas always look good. gound cover such as houtiniana (I think thats correct spelling), ajuga, creeping jenny, nepeta, all these will grow over and into the pond and provide a ladder for wildlife to crawl back out. and provide cover for emerging baby frogs and newts. Remember a pond is (wild)for life not just for christmas Take a look at the rhs website for pond plants. Apologies for any spelling/typing mistakes, 1 2 many glasses of Hock. Regards Cineman "Welsh Witch" wrote in message news We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html |
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:52:58 +0000, cineman wrote:
Hi, Solar pumps are unlikely to be powerful enough to cope with the amount of water in this pond. you will need to work out cubic voloume of the pond width X depth X length then look for pumps sufficient to change water every 20 mins to half hour depending on what fish you carry. You should consider what plants are going into pool first, as come spring you will have the best pea soup in the neighbourhood. SEcondly Plants for round the hedge would look good spreading over the hedge into the pool to break up the straight lines perennials such as hostas always look good. gound cover such as houtiniana (I think thats correct spelling), ajuga, creeping jenny, nepeta, all these will grow over and into the pond and provide a ladder for wildlife to crawl back out. and provide cover for emerging baby frogs and newts. Remember a pond is (wild)for life not just for christmas Take a look at the rhs website for pond plants. Apologies for any spelling/typing mistakes, 1 2 many glasses of Hock. Regards Cineman ******************************************* Hock???Hic! THanks! ******************************************* "Welsh Witch" wrote in message news We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html |
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"Welsh Witch" wrote in message news We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html If its not going in the pond Dierama pulcherrimum. Bamboo looks good but you will find it hard to move. Arums also look good both in and out of the water. Someone has also given me something that looks a little like a small papyrus but hardy (the real thing is not) and I wonder if your climate suits whether Restios might not look good. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:09:30 +0000, Charlie Pridham wrote:
"Welsh Witch" wrote in message news We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html If its not going in the pond Dierama pulcherrimum. Bamboo looks good but you will find it hard to move. Arums also look good both in and out of the water. Someone has also given me something that looks a little like a small papyrus but hardy (the real thing is not) and I wonder if your climate suits whether Restios might not look good. ************************************************** ** Now that sounds lovely..I believe the flowers are Angels' fishing rods. They have a gorgeous display at Bodnant Garden. Unfortunately thinking our soil being sandy, like theirs we could grow anything they do. That was mistake as I bought five eucryphia I foolishly fell in love with; all died. I would try adventurous things and arrange for a climate they would like one way or another. You have sent me into an fever of excitement re the papyrus. Now really could I want anything more..I am just watching the Howard Carter open the Tut tomb all day on UKTV History! I have to look up Restios I don;t knwo them. Our climate considerably further north than yours doesn't give us such wonderful choices. I have discovered cleome something we didn't have in our garden at home they're pretty good. Thanks ************************************* |
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Welsh Witch wrote:
We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html Grasses, large and small. Names elude me atm.............at the bottom of a bottle of 'Good French red' -- ßôyþëtë (Wilibald Cotton of Overhill) |
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Welsh Witch wrote: We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html One plant you could try is Cyperus involucratus. I grew it from seed (RHS) this spring and ended up with loads of plants, some of which are growing as houseplants. Others are outdoors in pots and have died back for the winter. They should shoot again in spring. I'm not sure they'd be hardy for you, but they are so easy to grow from seed, very fast growing, and they thrive in constant moisture, so perhaps it's worth a try? Take a look at this URL: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2532/ And Gunnera manicata could make a nice contrast to the swaying, reed-like plants you're after...? |
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Ornata wrote: Welsh Witch wrote: We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html One plant you could try is Cyperus involucratus. I grew it from seed (RHS) this spring and ended up with loads of plants, some of which are growing as houseplants. Others are outdoors in pots and have died back for the winter. They should shoot again in spring. I'm not sure they'd be hardy for you, but they are so easy to grow from seed, very fast growing, and they thrive in constant moisture, so perhaps it's worth a try? Take a look at this URL: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2532/ And Gunnera manicata could make a nice contrast to the swaying, reed-like plants you're after...? And -- don't everybody shout at once -- the much-maligned pampas grass looks very fine reflected in water as long as there's enough of it to make a good statement. Isn't there one of our number who grows it behind big gunneras on the far side of a big pond? It's only in a lonely clump in a suburban front lawn that it looks daft. -- Mike. |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 03:35:16 -0800, Ornata wrote:
Welsh Witch wrote: We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html One plant you could try is Cyperus involucratus. I grew it from seed (RHS) this spring and ended up with loads of plants, some of which are growing as houseplants. Others are outdoors in pots and have died back for the winter. They should shoot again in spring. I'm not sure they'd be hardy for you, but they are so easy to grow from seed, very fast growing, and they thrive in constant moisture, so perhaps it's worth a try? Take a look at this URL: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2532/ And Gunnera manicata could make a nice contrast to the swaying, reed-like plants you're after...? ************************************************ THis is a fabulous website. Thankyou so much for passing it on. I've fallen madly in love with "happenstance" and there are many more from the suggestions on this website I shall be buying. ************************** |
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:09:30 +0000, Charlie Pridham wrote:
"Welsh Witch" wrote in message news We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html If its not going in the pond Dierama pulcherrimum. Bamboo looks good but you will find it hard to move. Arums also look good both in and out of the water. Someone has also given me something that looks a little like a small papyrus but hardy (the real thing is not) and I wonder if your climate suits whether Restios might not look good. *****************************************8 I went around your beautiful gardem I really enjoyed the tour. I love the dierama of which I see you have a super clump. I think I have most of the same roses. I love roses more than anything else and I have planted them down one complete side of our four acres. I saw on the labels that some grow to 50'. They are getting to look super. The farmer next door does troll round the fields with his hedge cutter bu there you go...one does one's best:-) What ideas you have all come up with I have to go to study them in depth now! ********************************* |
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:55:28 -0800, Mike Lyle wrote:
Ornata wrote: Welsh Witch wrote: We've nearly finished this pool (on web below) which is 20 yards by 15. I have looked at hundreds of pools and the planting round the edges and my mind is always drawn to the exotic like those in ancient Egypt and Mexico. I know I can't grow such things but there must be something that can be grown that looks like these plants. Someone suggesting bamboo, previously is something I thought I could use hereabouts I have a nigra a large clump..I just hope it will move OK... I am sure there should be plants that wave in the breeze. The spot is in full sun from about 10am to 5pm and I'm hoping to be able to use solar to work the pumps. It seems such a waste to let all this water overflowing everywhere in this area... so we'll collect sky water as much as possible.BUT plants I'm completely foxed. I don't want to put their feet in the water just along the sides which are to be filled with backing cement/stones and soil. Summer we hopefully can water the vegetables. http://www.saveoursaxon.co.uk/whatplants.html One plant you could try is Cyperus involucratus. I grew it from seed (RHS) this spring and ended up with loads of plants, some of which are growing as houseplants. Others are outdoors in pots and have died back for the winter. They should shoot again in spring. I'm not sure they'd be hardy for you, but they are so easy to grow from seed, very fast growing, and they thrive in constant moisture, so perhaps it's worth a try? Take a look at this URL: http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2532/ And Gunnera manicata could make a nice contrast to the swaying, reed-like plants you're after...? And -- don't everybody shout at once -- the much-maligned pampas grass looks very fine reflected in water as long as there's enough of it to make a good statement. Isn't there one of our number who grows it behind big gunneras on the far side of a big pond? It's only in a lonely clump in a suburban front lawn that it looks daft. ****************************** I love pampas grass and like fashion largely ignore the fashionable:-) I have made a special thing with pampas grass which in the plan is just baby pampas walk. I thought I would have them right around the edge of the hill (not much of a hill) as the Zulu warriors ringed the Welsh guards at Rourkes Drift. I am hoping it will be pretty impressive with all their headresses fluttering in the breeze I think I've planted about 50/100 not sure. Then we will have the blood red crocosmia lucifer etc. There's one thing I would love to grow but every time I touch it it dies off even if I have it in a pot with perfect compost...cordyline! Gunera...I can't make up my mind. They're a bit rough to touch aren;'t they? |
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"Welsh Witch" wrote in message news On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:55:28 -0800, Mike Lyle wrote: Snip There's one thing I would love to grow but every time I touch it it dies off even if I have it in a pot with perfect compost...cordyline! Cordylines are often sold too small to survive frost, either buy bigger or grow on for a couple of years, once you have a decent trunk they nearly always return from below ground if cut down by cold, (happens about every 15 years or so in Truro.) and if you are borderline for hardiness don't bother with the coloured leaf forms which are less hardy than the plain greens. -- Charlie, gardening in Cornwall. http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and Lapageria rosea |
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