We have two plants we were given and neither we nor the donor know the
variety. The first is a climbing nasturtium which in a pot, in an unheated
polytunnel, has gone to 8' and is spreading along the wires. It still has
flower buds on it. The seeds came from a friend whose nephew brought them
back from Chile - so perhaps you begin to see the difficulty in getting an
ID! The flowers are orange with a 3 to 4" long stem and a spur that is 1.5
to 2" long. The inside of the flower has darker orangey/red, very fine
stripes right in the throat of the two larger top petals and each of the
three smaller low petals has a red blotch on it and is fringed. I should
think each flower is probably about 1" diameter. It's a really charming
plant and both vigorous and floriferous and we'd love to know what it is.
The second plant was given to us by someone in Wales who has a conservatory
full of exotic plants. He says this is a Passiflora and he calls it the
Passion Flower Tree. It isn't the usual climbing and twining Passiflora but
it has a trunk, currently about 2" thick at the bottom, without any branches
but with very large leaves about 1' long and 8" across at their present
best. It was a bit frail when it came here so it hasn't flowered yet.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

"Sacha" wrote in message
...
We have two plants we were given and neither we nor the donor know the
variety. The first is a climbing nasturtium which in a pot, in an
unheated
polytunnel, has gone to 8' and is spreading along the wires. It still has
flower buds on it. The seeds came from a friend whose nephew brought them
back from Chile - so perhaps you begin to see the difficulty in getting an
ID! The flowers are orange with a 3 to 4" long stem and a spur that is
1.5
to 2" long. The inside of the flower has darker orangey/red, very fine
stripes right in the throat of the two larger top petals and each of the
three smaller low petals has a red blotch on it and is fringed. I should
think each flower is probably about 1" diameter. It's a really charming
plant and both vigorous and floriferous and we'd love to know what it is.
The second plant was given to us by someone in Wales who has a
conservatory
full of exotic plants. He says this is a Passiflora and he calls it the
Passion Flower Tree. It isn't the usual climbing and twining Passiflora
but
it has a trunk, currently about 2" thick at the bottom, without any
branches
but with very large leaves about 1' long and 8" across at their present
best. It was a bit frail when it came here so it hasn't flowered yet.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

No idea on the second but is the first T. tuberosum? if it is it will
produce nobly tubers below ground, but its relatively common so you may
already know its not!
--
Charlie, gardening in Cornwall.
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of National Plant Collections of Clematis viticella (cvs) and
Lapageria rosea

In message , Sacha
writes
We have two plants we were given and neither we nor the donor know the
variety. The first is a climbing nasturtium which in a pot, in an
unheated polytunnel, has gone to 8' and is spreading along the wires.
It still has flower buds on it. The seeds came from a friend whose
nephew brought them back from Chile - so perhaps you begin to see the
difficulty in getting an ID! The flowers are orange with a 3 to 4"
long stem and a spur that is 1.5 to 2" long. The inside of the flower
has darker orangey/red, very fine stripes right in the throat of the
two larger top petals and each of the three smaller low petals has a
red blotch on it and is fringed. I should think each flower is
probably about 1" diameter. It's a really charming plant and both
vigorous and floriferous and we'd love to know what it is.

There was an article in a recent issue of The Garden about the national
collection of Tropaeolum - if no one beats me to it I'll see if that
sheds any light on the ID.
--
Stewart Robert Hinsley

On 19/11/06 14:21, in article , "Charlie
Pridham" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
...
We have two plants we were given and neither we nor the donor know the
variety. The first is a climbing nasturtium which in a pot, in an
unheated
polytunnel, has gone to 8' and is spreading along the wires. It still has
flower buds on it. The seeds came from a friend whose nephew brought them
back from Chile - so perhaps you begin to see the difficulty in getting an
ID! The flowers are orange with a 3 to 4" long stem and a spur that is
1.5
to 2" long. The inside of the flower has darker orangey/red, very fine
stripes right in the throat of the two larger top petals and each of the
three smaller low petals has a red blotch on it and is fringed. I should
think each flower is probably about 1" diameter. It's a really charming
plant and both vigorous and floriferous and we'd love to know what it is.
The second plant was given to us by someone in Wales who has a
conservatory
full of exotic plants. He says this is a Passiflora and he calls it the
Passion Flower Tree. It isn't the usual climbing and twining Passiflora
but
it has a trunk, currently about 2" thick at the bottom, without any
branches
but with very large leaves about 1' long and 8" across at their present
best. It was a bit frail when it came here so it hasn't flowered yet.
--

No idea on the second but is the first T. tuberosum? if it is it will
produce nobly tubers below ground, but its relatively common so you may
already know its not!

No, it's not that one because it's the same colour all over. It doesn't
have that red flush to the spur and I don't think T. tuberosum has the
orange/red blotches? It's not as tubular looking as that, either.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

On 19/11/06 15:56, in article lid, "Stewart
Robert Hinsley" wrote:

In message , Sacha
writes
We have two plants we were given and neither we nor the donor know the
variety. The first is a climbing nasturtium which in a pot, in an
unheated polytunnel, has gone to 8' and is spreading along the wires.
It still has flower buds on it. The seeds came from a friend whose
nephew brought them back from Chile - so perhaps you begin to see the
difficulty in getting an ID! The flowers are orange with a 3 to 4"
long stem and a spur that is 1.5 to 2" long. The inside of the flower
has darker orangey/red, very fine stripes right in the throat of the
two larger top petals and each of the three smaller low petals has a
red blotch on it and is fringed. I should think each flower is
probably about 1" diameter. It's a really charming plant and both
vigorous and floriferous and we'd love to know what it is.

There was an article in a recent issue of The Garden about the national
collection of Tropaeolum - if no one beats me to it I'll see if that
sheds any light on the ID.

Aha! I'll see if Ray remembers where he's put that but would be grateful to
hear from you if he can't find it!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/

In article , Sacha
writes
The first is a climbing nasturtium which in a pot, in an unheated
polytunnel, has gone to 8' and is spreading along the wires. It still has
flower buds on it.

A friend has a passion for Trops, he has about 6 different ones and
knows most people in the UK who specialise in them. Have you a photo of
the flower Sacha that I can access for him?
He might be able to help.
Janet

--
Janet Tweedy
Dalmatian Telegraph
http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk

On 19/11/06 23:31, in article , "Janet
Tweedy" wrote:

In article , Sacha
writes
The first is a climbing nasturtium which in a pot, in an unheated
polytunnel, has gone to 8' and is spreading along the wires. It still has
flower buds on it.

A friend has a passion for Trops, he has about 6 different ones and
knows most people in the UK who specialise in them. Have you a photo of
the flower Sacha that I can access for him?
He might be able to help.
Janet

I'll take one tomorrow and email it to you, if I may. It's not a startling
flower but its vigour alone makes it interesting and useful.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
http://www.discoverdartmoor.co.uk/