In reply to Judith Lea ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

In article , JennyC
writes

Right :~)
Let me know if you want a day out in Rotterdam next time you are
over here :~)


My friend Lydia comes from Rotterdam.

So Jenny, a cheap flight with Flybe or KLM and you could be sipping
a chilled Sauvignon Blanc under the apple tree or if you like,
under the plum tree that did not produce many plums this year.
Judith Lea

Sounds good, Jenny


I will post details on urg when a date has been agreed and everyone,
*with* *just* *a* *couple* *of* *exceptions*, are so very welcome to come
to my
home. Everyone is invited to dinner that night at chez moi.

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The shrub recommended by the police is pyracantha, or firethorn, but its usually deciduous. You might also consider an evergreen berberis, which also has great flowers and an attractive leaf.

A really good alternative is a rmabling rose which is fast growing and super spiney and it can be trained to cover a wall.

You can use a plant database to search for plants with spines, a good one is htp://www.plant-encyclopedia.net.


Hi all,
After the umpteenth burglary at "casa bleu", I need to resort to some
stiff security steps.

I want to stop "yoofs" climbing onto my garage flat roof, and sneaking
into the back yard, where they proceed to help themselves to my hard
earned money/boot my doggy/steal my cars. I am not really keen on razor
wire and don't want to reapply for my firearms license at this moment.

I want to plant some thorny barriers. And was thinking of a double row
of Hawthorn hedging around the rear of the garage for people to
castrate themselved by jumping into, and some kind of a pot-borne
climbing rose trailing over the front of the garage, and along the
longer side.

Would Hawthorn (C. Monogyna?) damage walls or foundations if grown slap
up againt the rear wall of the garage? How about common Gorse? My garden
soil is moist, clay like (Liverpool Weather) and partially shaded.

Also could you suggest a very thorny, fast growing evergreen climber I
could grow over the front door/roofline of the garage and along one of
the longer sides? The longer side needs to be covered by a climber that
is happy to grow from a pot, if possble, otherwise I will need to take
off a pavement slab and plant it in the ground right up against the
wall of the house.

I would like a solution that is kind and welcoming to the birdies and
beasties that visit my garden at this moment, something that offers
them food and protection would be especially nice.

Is there a thorny barrier that is evergreen/non deciduous that I can
stick along the fence as well? Hopefully with a bird and building
friendly characteristic?




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The Police actuall recommend a bush called (sp) Pyrocantha. Someone will
correct me on the spelling. Bush with nasty thorns on it.

Another thing you can do is erect wire netting which is not tight and
secure. ie when they try to climb it tit collapses, but not to ground level
whereby they walk over it.

Another is a remote dummy if you like, camera. Out of reach but very
visible.

If electricity is readily available, a strong PIR 500 watt floodlight which
they trigger and depending on the area/neighbourhood, a bell or alarm fitted
to the same circuit.

Just a few things I do know have been done in various places :-))

Mike


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