I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top. I used
weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with things
sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs to be
fairly powerful.

Andy

"Andy Atkinson" wrote in message
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I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top. I
used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with things
sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs to be
fairly powerful.

Andy

are they rooting in the gravel or from beneath it?

if the former, pull them up, if the latter "Pathclear"

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I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top. I
used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with things
sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs to be
fairly powerful.

Andy

are they rooting in the gravel or from beneath it?

if the former, pull them up, if the latter "Pathclear"

--
Tumbleweed


They are beneath the gravle and coming through the sheeting. I was
considering sodium chlorate to kill them off for good. Any opinons?

Andy

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"Andy Atkinson" wrote in message
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I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top. I
used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with things
sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs to be
fairly powerful.

Andy

are they rooting in the gravel or from beneath it?

if the former, pull them up, if the latter "Pathclear"

--
Tumbleweed


They are beneath the gravle and coming through the sheeting. I was
considering sodium chlorate to kill them off for good. Any opinons?

Andy

can you still buy that? I thought it was banned? Anyway, i'd go for
pathclear.

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Tumbleweed

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Andy Atkinson wrote:
I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top.
I used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with
things sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs to
be fairly powerful.

Andy

When I 'stoned' a border a few years ago, I first put down a layer of pea
gravel Then sprinkled cement over it and sprinkled 'gently' with water. I
then covered with my choice of stoned. I have no weeds at all.
HTH
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I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top. I
used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with things
sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs to
be fairly powerful.

Andy

are they rooting in the gravel or from beneath it?

if the former, pull them up, if the latter "Pathclear"

--
Tumbleweed


They are beneath the gravle and coming through the sheeting. I was
considering sodium chlorate to kill them off for good. Any opinons?

Andy

can you still buy that? I thought it was banned? Anyway, i'd go for
pathclear.

--
Tumbleweed

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Sodium Chlorate is still available.
It's the one to use.

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I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over
the
top. I used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little
good with things sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath?
Needs to be fairly powerful.

Andy

are they rooting in the gravel or from beneath it?

if the former, pull them up, if the latter "Pathclear"

--
Tumbleweed


They are beneath the gravle and coming through the sheeting. I
was
considering sodium chlorate to kill them off for good. Any
opinons?

Andy

can you still buy that? I thought it was banned? Anyway, i'd go
for
pathclear.

--
Tumbleweed

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Sodium Chlorate is still available.
It's the one to use.

Yes and no. As a "simple" chemical, it's what I'd use for biggish
bare areas: I've done it before, and I'll probably do it again. But
it does hang about in the soil, and may drain down to places you
don't want it. It's not good to let it into watercourses. "Pathclear"
contains either 2-4-D or Paraquat (forgotten which, I'm afraid, but
the info is there on the Web): if you handle these according to the
book they're pretty good, but they're still suspect -- even Paraquat,
which usually breaks down quickly. But amateurs, like poor African
farmers, handle these things badly: they overdose, and expose
themselves and sometimes the children to unnecessary skin and lung
contact. And for what? A tiny suburban patch.

For a sensible single application I wouldn't actually worry much
about either. But the blunt fact is that very few European hobby
gardeners should ever need to use these things more than once, if
ever. Either you're a gardener or you're not. Dependence on
herbicides is another symptom of make-over gardening. Without the
so-called "weed-proof" membranes, you could just get the weeds out
without fear of damaging the membrane, which was meant to stop the
weeds in the first place! .

There is no such thing as gardening without weeding. A pot of
geraniums on a balcony will get unwelcome visitors. Once the garden's
established, the weeding shouldn't be a big problem, and it's a
perfectly pleasant activity anyhow: it's what gardeners do.

--
Mike.

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I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over
the
top. I used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little
good with things sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath?
Needs to be fairly powerful.

Andy

are they rooting in the gravel or from beneath it?

if the former, pull them up, if the latter "Pathclear"

--
Tumbleweed


They are beneath the gravle and coming through the sheeting. I
was
considering sodium chlorate to kill them off for good. Any
opinons?

Andy

can you still buy that? I thought it was banned? Anyway, i'd go
for
pathclear.

--
Tumbleweed

email replies not necessary but to contact use;
tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

Sodium Chlorate is still available.
It's the one to use.

Yes and no. As a "simple" chemical, it's what I'd use for biggish
bare areas: I've done it before, and I'll probably do it again. But
it does hang about in the soil, and may drain down to places you
don't want it. It's not good to let it into watercourses.
"Pathclear"
contains either 2-4-D or Paraquat (forgotten which, I'm afraid, but
the info is there on the Web): if you handle these according to the
book they're pretty good, but they're still suspect -- even
Paraquat,
which usually breaks down quickly. But amateurs, like poor African
farmers, handle these things badly: they overdose, and expose
themselves and sometimes the children to unnecessary skin and lung
contact. And for what? A tiny suburban patch.

For a sensible single application I wouldn't actually worry much
about either. But the blunt fact is that very few European hobby
gardeners should ever need to use these things more than once, if
ever. Either you're a gardener or you're not. Dependence on
herbicides is another symptom of make-over gardening. Without the
so-called "weed-proof" membranes, you could just get the weeds out
without fear of damaging the membrane, which was meant to stop the
weeds in the first place! .

There is no such thing as gardening without weeding. A pot of
geraniums on a balcony will get unwelcome visitors. Once the
garden's
established, the weeding shouldn't be a big problem, and it's a
perfectly pleasant activity anyhow: it's what gardeners do.

PS. Boiling water kills weeds as well as ant nests. But I can't see
it doing the trick on a dock without numerous repetitions. Docks are
actually easy to pull up when the soil's moist: dandelions usually
break off, I'm afraid.

--
Mike.

Andy Atkinson wrote:

I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top. I used
weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with things
sprouting through it.

Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs to be
fairly powerful.

What sort of weeds are punching through the weed proof fabric? I haven't
seen any that could get through the stuff I put down in my mother in
laws garden. Even the toughest thistles could only get out after finding
a seam or a planting hole.

I can believe bamboo might puncture it, but not much else.

Regards,
Martin Brown

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Andy Atkinson wrote:

I recently dug up my lawn and put gravel down with pots over the top.
I used weed-proof fabric but it seems to have doen little good with
things sprouting through it.
Can anyone recommend something to kill the weeds underneath? Needs
to be fairly powerful.

What sort of weeds are punching through the weed proof fabric? I
haven't seen any that could get through the stuff I put down in my
mother in laws garden. Even the toughest thistles could only get out
after finding a seam or a planting hole.

I can believe bamboo might puncture it, but not much else.

Regards,
Martin Brown

I have had couch grass come through it, but it was cheap fabric and so
probably a bit flimsy
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Sue
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Tumbleweed wrote:

They are beneath the gravle and coming through the sheeting. I was
considering sodium chlorate to kill them off for good. Any opinons?

Andy

can you still buy that? I thought it was banned? Anyway, i'd go for
pathclear.

Sodium Chlorate is still available, I have used both it and Pathclear
on our gravel drive and neither works very well. We must have tough
weeds or something, it may be that tre drive slopes and is very well
drained and thus the weedkiller gets washed out very quickly.

--
Chris Green