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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:10:04 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: transpire the much less toxic forms of the metal into the air where they are quickly diffused Great! Let's dump the metal into the wider environment, shall we? This is a misuse of resources and an attempt to provide a "fix it" approach instead of tackling the problem at source. The solution is to stop polluters from putting pollution into the environment. In the case of polluted land, the polluter must pay to remove the contaminants from the soil, not allow it to be "diffused" into the atmosphere! regards Marcus |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:10:04 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: transpire the much less toxic forms of the metal into the air where they are quickly diffused Great! Let's dump the metal into the wider environment, shall we? just put it back where it came from Jim Webster |
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:13:28 +0100, Oz wrote: Do you ever give anything more than a moments thought? Why are you defending GM "technology" yet again? Don't you see that allowing plants to "respire" mercury into the environment might be a bad thing? regards Marcus |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:10:04 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: transpire the much less toxic forms of the metal into the air where they are quickly diffused Great! Let's dump the metal into the wider environment, shall we? This is a misuse of resources and an attempt to provide a "fix it" approach instead of tackling the problem at source. The solution is to stop polluters from putting pollution into the environment. In the case of polluted land, the polluter must pay to remove the contaminants from the soil, not allow it to be "diffused" into the atmosphere! So you suggest that we should not use this technology to clean up toxic waste sites? I do not believe many people will disagree that we should focus on minimizing pollution at it source, but your suggestions do not help resolve the issues of how to clean up pre-existing sites. What should we do with the soil that you want the companies to remove? What will we do with the residue that this creates? Dave regards Marcus |
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:06:50 GMT, "David Kendra"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:10:04 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: transpire the much less toxic forms of the metal into the air where they are quickly diffused Great! Let's dump the metal into the wider environment, shall we? This is a misuse of resources and an attempt to provide a "fix it" approach instead of tackling the problem at source. The solution is to stop polluters from putting pollution into the environment. In the case of polluted land, the polluter must pay to remove the contaminants from the soil, not allow it to be "diffused" into the atmosphere! So you suggest that we should not use this technology to clean up toxic waste sites? I do not believe many people will disagree that we should focus on minimizing pollution at it source, but your suggestions do not help resolve the issues of how to clean up pre-existing sites. What should we do with the soil that you want the companies to remove? What will we do with the residue that this creates? Well, dumping the soil pollution as mercury vapour to the atmosphereŽis hardly an option. Only yesterday the US president announced that mercury emissions to the atmosphere under his administration's 'clean skies' initiative will need to be decreased by 69 %. So, how do you envision getting EPA to approve a technology that increases it? |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
Torsten Brinch writes
Well, dumping the soil pollution as mercury vapour to the atmosphereŽis hardly an option. Only yesterday the US president announced that mercury emissions to the atmosphere under his administration's 'clean skies' initiative will need to be decreased by 69 %. So, how do you envision getting EPA to approve a technology that increases it? No problem, just leave the ground contaminated. Your choice, although I doubt the emissions from this sort of scheme would be significant and probably not in the US anyway. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
"Torsten Brinch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:06:50 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:10:04 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: transpire the much less toxic forms of the metal into the air where they are quickly diffused Great! Let's dump the metal into the wider environment, shall we? This is a misuse of resources and an attempt to provide a "fix it" approach instead of tackling the problem at source. The solution is to stop polluters from putting pollution into the environment. In the case of polluted land, the polluter must pay to remove the contaminants from the soil, not allow it to be "diffused" into the atmosphere! So you suggest that we should not use this technology to clean up toxic waste sites? I do not believe many people will disagree that we should focus on minimizing pollution at it source, but your suggestions do not help resolve the issues of how to clean up pre-existing sites. What should we do with the soil that you want the companies to remove? What will we do with the residue that this creates? Well, dumping the soil pollution as mercury vapour to the atmosphereŽis hardly an option. Only yesterday the US president announced that mercury emissions to the atmosphere under his administration's 'clean skies' initiative will need to be decreased by 69 %. So, how do you envision getting EPA to approve a technology that increases it? And what option do YOU recommend? |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:07:05 GMT, "David Kendra"
wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:06:50 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: So you suggest that we should not use this technology to clean up toxic waste sites? I do not believe many people will disagree that we should focus on minimizing pollution at it source, but your suggestions do not help resolve the issues of how to clean up pre-existing sites. What should we do with the soil that you want the companies to remove? What will we do with the residue that this creates? Well, dumping the soil pollution as mercury vapour to the atmosphereŽis hardly an option. Only yesterday the US president announced that mercury emissions to the atmosphere under his administration's 'clean skies' initiative will need to be decreased by 69 %. So, how do you envision getting EPA to approve a technology that increases it? And what option do YOU recommend? Oh, no particular option, it would depend on the circumstances, and I am not an expert anyway. I am just not dumb enough to think it might be a good idea to transform the mercury in the soil to elemental mercury and vent it as mercury vapour into the atmosphere. |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
"Torsten Brinch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:07:05 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:06:50 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: So you suggest that we should not use this technology to clean up toxic waste sites? I do not believe many people will disagree that we should focus on minimizing pollution at it source, but your suggestions do not help resolve the issues of how to clean up pre-existing sites. What should we do with the soil that you want the companies to remove? What will we do with the residue that this creates? Well, dumping the soil pollution as mercury vapour to the atmosphereŽis hardly an option. Only yesterday the US president announced that mercury emissions to the atmosphere under his administration's 'clean skies' initiative will need to be decreased by 69 %. So, how do you envision getting EPA to approve a technology that increases it? And what option do YOU recommend? Oh, no particular option, it would depend on the circumstances, and I am not an expert anyway. I am just not dumb enough to think it might be a good idea to transform the mercury in the soil to elemental mercury and vent it as mercury vapour into the atmosphere. Did you bother to read any of their work to see just how much mercury is released into the atmosphere via their system verses mercury vapor from other sources? Probably not. At least they are working on a solution. It is always easier to criticize someone else's work than to actually be creative and solve a problem. Keep up the good work Torsten. I always appreciate you comments :-) |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
"Torsten Brinch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:07:05 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:06:50 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: So you suggest that we should not use this technology to clean up toxic waste sites? I do not believe many people will disagree that we should focus on minimizing pollution at it source, but your suggestions do not help resolve the issues of how to clean up pre-existing sites. What should we do with the soil that you want the companies to remove? What will we do with the residue that this creates? Well, dumping the soil pollution as mercury vapour to the atmosphereŽis hardly an option. Only yesterday the US president announced that mercury emissions to the atmosphere under his administration's 'clean skies' initiative will need to be decreased by 69 %. So, how do you envision getting EPA to approve a technology that increases it? And what option do YOU recommend? Oh, no particular option, it would depend on the circumstances, and I am not an expert anyway. I am just not dumb enough to think it might be a good idea to transform the mercury in the soil to elemental mercury and vent it as mercury vapour into the atmosphere. Did you bother to read any of their work to see just how much mercury is released into the atmosphere via their system verses mercury vapor from other sources? Probably not. At least they are working on a solution. It is always easier to criticize someone else's work than to actually be creative and solve a problem. Keep up the good work Torsten. I always appreciate you comments :-) |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 22:57:41 GMT, "David Kendra"
wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 12:07:05 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: "Torsten Brinch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:06:50 GMT, "David Kendra" wrote: So you suggest that we should not use this technology to clean up toxic waste sites? I do not believe many people will disagree that we should focus on minimizing pollution at it source, but your suggestions do not help resolve the issues of how to clean up pre-existing sites. What should we do with the soil that you want the companies to remove? What will we do with the residue that this creates? Well, dumping the soil pollution as mercury vapour to the atmosphereŽis hardly an option. Only yesterday the US president announced that mercury emissions to the atmosphere under his administration's 'clean skies' initiative will need to be decreased by 69 %. So, how do you envision getting EPA to approve a technology that increases it? And what option do YOU recommend? Oh, no particular option, it would depend on the circumstances, and I am not an expert anyway. I am just not dumb enough to think it might be a good idea to transform the mercury in the soil to elemental mercury and vent it as mercury vapour into the atmosphere. Did you bother to read any of their work to see just how much mercury is released into the atmosphere via their system verses mercury vapor from other sources? Yeah. Just to take it further from that, did you bother to realise that mercury vapour release from 'other sources' is considered to be a serious environmental problem, one which we certainly do not need a new technology adding anything to? snip |
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UGA researchers use transgenic trees to help clean up toxic waste site
Torsten Brinch writes
Yeah. Just to take it further from that, did you bother to realise that mercury vapour release from 'other sources' is considered to be a serious environmental problem, one which we certainly do not need a new technology adding anything to? I have to say that, outside a localised area, I have come across anything mentioning Hg as a significant hazard; or any hazard at all, come to that. -- Oz This post is worth absolutely nothing and is probably fallacious. Note: soon (maybe already) only posts via despammed.com will be accepted. |
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